*just* pulled this guy out

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DirtScaresMe

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Took me and my buddy in the white tacoma (to the right of my 80), both of us had m8000's and needed to put snatch blocks on the big ass expedition. Poor kid took his rental out there. A carwash later and the rental shop will never know :)

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Don't we all have some great stories to tell with rentals?? Maybe that's just me but man there's something about a rental SUV and a twitchy right foot:)
 
Don't we all have some great stories to tell with rentals?? Maybe that's just me but man there's something about a rental SUV and a twitchy right foot:)


If we hadn't helped him out his whole vacation would have gotten ruined. I was stoked my buddy with the taco was around.
 
If its a rental dont be gentle
 
If that picture is on public lands he deserves to have his vacation ruined.

Fair point. I rarely if ever drive off the trails/roads. In his defense, he's from Texas.
 
Origin location is NOT a defense. Dicking up on public land is still stupid.
 
Reminds me of a "story" when a gas project was going on here. The contractor was from Alabama/Mississippi and a few guys decided they wanted to go explore on BLM land in the local area. They got stuck off a two track and called for help.

When the "help" arrived they were in a 4 ton gang truck. They pulled off the two track to get positioned to pull their buddies out. About the same time a BLM officer came by and the $h!T HIT THE FAN... The guy that got stuck was issued a 1000.00 fine for failure to stay on the designate trail. The other guy in the DOT commercial truck was fined 13,000.00. Not only did he go off the trail as his buddy did, he ran over several Mountain Mahogany which are endangered here.

It didn't help that the guys were smart asses to the officer, but not a one even understood what BLM was.

Get info before exploring in new to you areas and from time to time update your memory as restrictions change periodically.
 
Reminds me of a "story" when a gas project was going on here. The contractor was from Alabama/Mississippi and a few guys decided they wanted to go explore on BLM land in the local area. They got stuck off a two track and called for help.

When the "help" arrived they were in a 4 ton gang truck. They pulled off the two track to get positioned to pull their buddies out. About the same time a BLM officer came by and the $h!T HIT THE FAN... The guy that got stuck was issued a 1000.00 fine for failure to stay on the designate trail. The other guy in the DOT commercial truck was fined 13,000.00. Not only did he go off the trail as his buddy did, he ran over several Mountain Mahogany which are endangered here.

It didn't help that the guys were smart asses to the officer, but not a one even understood what BLM was.

Get info before exploring in new to you areas and from time to time update your memory as restrictions change periodically.

That's a tough one. This town is pretty small and the option of just leaving the truck out there till infinity doesn't really fly. It will get stripped, burned, start leaking fuel/oil into the creek and meadow, etc. Plus who knows what kind of horrible digging/road building techniques someone else might use.

I don't drive over trees and as a self described environmentalist I moved up here because it's beautiful, I don't want to scar anything. I'd probably fight that ticket the best I could with the local BLM office, I work with them pretty frequently. Although I think this was NFS land so it would have been a ranger.
 
how you behave when you think no one is looking (the rental agency in this case) tells a lot about a person.

I was taught that the definition of integrity is doing the right thing even though nobody is watching.
 
how you behave when you think no one is looking (the rental agency in this case) tells a lot about a person.

"The true test of a man's character is what he does when no one is watching." :)
 
That's a tough one. This town is pretty small and the option of just leaving the truck out there till infinity doesn't really fly. It will get stripped, burned, start leaking fuel/oil into the creek and meadow, etc. Plus who knows what kind of horrible digging/road building techniques someone else might use.

I don't drive over trees and as a self described environmentalist I moved up here because it's beautiful, I don't want to scar anything. I'd probably fight that ticket the best I could with the local BLM office, I work with them pretty frequently. Although I think this was NFS land so it would have been a ranger.



The problem here is when a gas boom is on... no one cares about anything but money. Everyone thinks they are more important than the next guy or the lands... In our site orientation it was purposefully relayed that BLM was strict and people should go to the BLM office prior to camping, offroading or hiking. These guys obviously didn't bother.

Wyoming BLM in our area has constant trouble with out of state contractors and "visitors". They think they can litter like they do in their home states and its okay for some reason. Oil and gas companies are fined constantly because of trash and the destruction of BLM lands around their project facilities.

I, 100% support the BLM with what these guys got and IMO it should have been more harsh.

J
 
The problem here is when a gas boom is on... no one cares about anything but money. Everyone thinks they are more important than the next guy or the lands... In our site orientation it was purposefully relayed that BLM was strict and people should go to the BLM office prior to camping, offroading or hiking. These guys obviously didn't bother.

Wyoming BLM in our area has constant trouble with out of state contractors and "visitors". They think they can litter like they do in their home states and its okay for some reason. Oil and gas companies are fined constantly because of trash and the destruction of BLM lands around their project facilities.

I, 100% support the BLM with what these guys got and IMO it should have been more harsh.

J

That sounds a lot different than the dynamics here. For the most part everyone in my neighborhood (Eastern Sierra) is here to enjoy the environment in some sense. Skiing, snowboarding, backpacking, fishing, whatever. Most of the land is NFS or NPS, there are designated wilderness areas everywhere (where you can't take a vehicle at all), and there are big watershed areas that supply major chunks of drinking and agricultural water for the rest of the state.

The worst environmental stuff around here is people not picking up all their trash and the occasional pieces of s*** who dump old furniture in the desert.

Down in the southern end of the sierras where it's closer to major metropolitan areas I've seen much worse: some guy took a s*** behind a rock and just threw his disgusting cakes toilet paper on the ground. People hiking in with lawn chairs to fish, then just abandoning them and the sun cracks the plastic and makes a huge mess. I've hiked out with all kinds of junk strapped to my pack from one area in particular.

I know California gets a lot of hate from the rest of the country for being seen as overly environmental but with places like Yosemite within a couple of hours from Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Reno the understanding is that if we're not really strict about things the whole mountain range will look like their filthy cities. Trash bags stuck to fences, car parts on the side of the road, cigarette butts, etc.

Maybe a distinction is that where you're at there's so much open wilderness and remoteness that folks don't treat it as special? Combined with economic interest that look at it as their livelihood, coupled with a general "environmentalists are out of touch" ?
 
Eastern slope of the Sierras are one of the places I miss having left SoCal 10 years ago. Many backpack trips from Agnew Meadows over to Curry Village using different passes. Here in SoOregon we don't really have much worry about running into BLM, there just aren't that many and there is too much open space and logging roads for them to cover. They tend to hang out near local places city folk like to weekend recreate with their Mall cruisers and beer. More than enough opportunities to make money for the state in those areas. I like to carry some ODOT orange trash bags with me(always full of other peoples trash) so that if I do encounter "The Man" I can ask him where I can dump this "stuff" gathered in our trail cleanup project that day! It makes us King of the Hill as far as BLM is concerned.
 
Eastern slope of the Sierras are one of the places I miss having left SoCal 10 years ago. Many backpack trips from Agnew Meadows over to Curry Village using different passes. Here in SoOregon we don't really have much worry about running into BLM, there just aren't that many and there is too much open space and logging roads for them to cover. They tend to hang out near local places city folk like to weekend recreate with their Mall cruisers and beer. More than enough opportunities to make money for the state in those areas. I like to carry some ODOT orange trash bags with me(always full of other peoples trash) so that if I do encounter "The Man" I can ask him where I can dump this "stuff" gathered in our trail cleanup project that day! It makes us King of the Hill as far as BLM is concerned.

The first thing I do when I stop anywhere is tie a trash bag to my back rack ladder. Always somewhere to throw trash and convenient for looking around for other people's.

I went on a backpacking trip as a kid and I remember watching my friend's dad pick up my trash wrappers. He didn't say anything to me about it but I felt super ashamed.
 
Standing next to that loaded cable is not the best plan. Check out some videos on Live Leak of folks getting their heads taken off by snapped cables to learn why.
 
Standing next to that loaded cable is not the best plan. Check out some videos on Live Leak of folks getting their heads taken off by snapped cables to learn why.

We had just taken the slack out, the cables were still plenty wobbly. The guy in the tan shirt was the other winch guy. We snapped the picture before everyone moved back and he and I hopped in our cabs.
 
We had just taken the slack out, the cables were still plenty wobbly. The guy in the tan shirt was the other winch guy. We snapped the picture before everyone moved back and he and I hopped in our cabs.

Gotcha. Couldn't tell from the pic.

For those who are unaware, a loaded cable "ain't nothing to fxxx with." Ask any logger.
 

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