Just curious, what's your OTHER vehicle?

[timjax]

This ^

The Supra is a de-tuned Z4 but at ~$20k less. BMW offers a 4-cyl version which is a similar price to the Supra, but unless you're just itching for a cheap convertible, why? If you're cross-shopping the Supra against the 4cyl Z4, unless you're dying for the BMW nameplate or want a convertible the Supra is the clear winner IMO. Conversely if you're cross-shopping the Supra against the BMW I6 version, the Supra is still the clear winner for cost/performance given the cost and virtually identical 0-60 and 1/4 mile times

2020 BMW Z4 M40i vs. 2020 Toyota Supra: Brothers From Other Mothers

How closely related are the Toyota Supra and BMW Z4? The cars share a platform and powertrain and are built by Magna Steyr in the same plant in Austria!

www.motortrend.com

Honestly there aren't a lot of new sports cars out there under $60k. What else competes at that price? Maybe a C8 'Vette?

Agreed. Don't see a better sports car until you at least go $20k higher in price, and for my money at least double in price for the preferred Porsche 911. Corvettes will always be a special outlier in performance per dollar, pretty incredible.

Keep in mind, for 2021 the Supra is no longer "de-tuned" (a new exhaust manifold and different compression ratios) and has an extra 47hp, and now soundly beats the Z4 for less money. I think BMW and Toyota might have had an agreement to let the Z4 be more powerful for just the introductory year.

 

[mep1811]

2013 Porsche Cayenne I have a one of a kind 6spd manual transmission.

 

[sbsurfer]

Daily Driver - 2019 Tundra - King 3.0 all around, Camburg UCA, Camburg bumper, 35in BFG/Methods, custom shell

Toys-
1929 Ford Roadster on 32 frame - 283, 5spd, Ford 9in,
1965 FJ45 - LS1, NV4500, 4 whl disc
1962 Chevy Bubbletop - 650hp 427 small block, 5spd
1966 Chevelle 300 - 600hp All aluminum 427 ZL1 motor, Super T10 5spd, Ford 9in
1967 Camaro - 550hp LS3, 4l65e, Detroit Speed front clip, 2000 vette IRS, JRI shocks

I have a very hard time leaving anything in stock trim. Gasoline is one of the cheapest forms of entertainment.

Here's a shot of the 67 Camaro

 

[Markuson]

Agreed. Don't see a better sports car until you at least go $20k higher in price, and for my money at least double in price for the preferred Porsche 911. Corvettes will always be a special outlier in performance per dollar, pretty incredible.

Keep in mind, for 2021 the Supra is no longer "de-tuned" (a new exhaust manifold and different compression ratios) and has an extra 47hp, and now soundly beats the Z4 for less money. I think BMW and Toyota might have had an agreement to let the Z4 be more powerful for just the introductory year.

I saw a video a qhile back where the Toyotaclearly bested the z4 at speed down the stretch...so they did manage to sneak some power in there like you say.

 

[linuxgod]

I saw a video a qhile back where the Toyotaclearly bested the z4 at speed down the stretch...so they did managed to sneak some power in there like you say.

Not so much power as power-to-weight, I think. The Z4 is heavier.

As Colin Chapman said, "Simplify, then add lightness"

 

[NYC570]

I saw a video a qhile back where the Toyotaclearly bested the z4 at speed down the stretch...so they did managed to sneak some power in there like you say.

Since they were launched, the Supra has always edge out the Z4. Various comparison videos show this. When people started to dyno, they realized that it produces more hp than the specs lead to belive.

 

[swhme]

2013 Porsche Cayenne I have a one of a kind 6spd manual transmission.

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Sweet! I have a 6MT Cayenne GTS, thinking about doing AT tires and light rack

 

[Avalon911]

Agreed. Don't see a better sports car until you at least go $20k higher in price, and for my money at least double in price for the preferred Porsche 911. Corvettes will always be a special outlier in performance per dollar, pretty incredible.

Keep in mind, for 2021 the Supra is no longer "de-tuned" (a new exhaust manifold and different compression ratios) and has an extra 47hp, and now soundly beats the Z4 for less money. I think BMW and Toyota might have had an agreement to let the Z4 be more powerful for just the introductory year.

For similar money, I picked up a 2020 GT350 Heritage Package. Naturally aspirated flat plane crank V8 and 6spd manual. Last of a dying breed

 

[LC70605]

2016 LC 200
2014 LC 200
2011 Tundra supercharged

 

[Markuson]

Not so much power as power-to-weight, I think. The Z4 is heavier.

As Colin Chapman said, "Simplify, then add lightness"

Ya... twas a sloppy use of “power” ...but really just meant that its apparently no slouch compared to the z4.

 

[1FAT201]

My "wife's car" is the LC200 (aka Marshmallow). Me? I drive a 2010 civic that just won't die, but I hope will die in 3 years.

I may get a Prius to save on gas (I know, I know), or just may say forget it and get a used Lexus IS-F. Maybe even a pickup? (Read: Raptor)

 

[mmorgan24]

Got back a car I sold 10 years ago to a friend. So happy he wanted a Tesla View attachment 2632003View attachment 2632004

I've got a MKIV or two as well. Used to host and own mkiv.com as well - great memories and people.

 

[mmorgan24]

Love it so far! Really quick, especially for the money. Solid handling and acceleration, sounds great, and nice creature comforts and luxury appointments. Really fun car to drive, and it's a looker for sure. It can be tricky to get in and out for some people, and visibility is somewhat decent. I see it as a smart move for Toyota, the "BMW" criticism is misplaced - all the things BMW contributed to it really make it what it is. It's more than worthy of the Supra badge IMO.

Two of the most iconic Toyota nameplates:
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There isn't so much to the BMW haters but for Toyota purists. There is very little Toyota in that vehicle but it is fun to drive *under warranty* of course.

 

[OysterDome]

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Those LX570 wheels look great on the tundra. Really nice ratio of metal to meat. Have you thought about putting the Toyota sombrero on the center caps? It appears to be a fairly easy switch with some gorilla glue.

 

[Ali FJ80]

I've got a MKIV or two as well. Used to host and own mkiv.com as well - great memories and people.

Nice. Only thing better than one MKIV is two. Post up some pics please. Also remember your site from back in the day for useful tech. Great people for sure. There’s about 50 around the greater Denver area that still get together on occasion.

 

[cheapskate31]

My 95 NA 5speed.

With a $1500 Maaco paintjob

 

[VooDoo2]

Holden Adventra. LS1, 4L60e, AWD based on a commodore wagon. I have 3 of these

 

[32cls6speedmt]

 

[herosfc]

E28 M5. My other forever car.

 

[Artie]

My 95 NA 5speed.

With a $1500 Maaco paintjob

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I had a sinful amount of lust over these way back while in high school.