January 19th Hamom Burt88's Garage

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how's your steering stabilizer??

Steering stabilizer? oops. Hahaha


That and the "lateral link" or "drag link" or whatever they are called. They are definitely too short now.... Its mainly the one bar behind the rear axle.
 
Something isn't right with the LX. I'm gonna get it on the alignment rack tomorrow. I'm expecting to see some camber numbers way out of wack. Its scary at 55mph+

What do you mean scary? Wanders like crazy? Steering feel numb?

Camber would not have changed based on the work we did. Caster should have been corrected by those plates.
 
What do you mean scary? Wanders like crazy? Steering feel numb?

Camber would not have changed based on the work we did. Caster should have been corrected by those plates.

Man wander is an understatement. Really hard to keep it in one lane. Correct left and it pulls so over correct right and back and forth.
 
Steering stabilizer? oops. Hahaha


That and the "lateral link" or "drag link" or whatever they are called. They are definitely too short now.... Its mainly the one bar behind the rear axle.


Oh ok if it wanders its not the stabilizer. You didn't change the length of your tie rods so your toe is now set too far in causing the front tires to point at each other. The one behind the rear axle shouldn't have changed much it should be the front one that is causing this. Just reset it on the rack tomorrow and it should be fine.
 
Oh ok if it wanders its not the stabilizer. You didn't change the length of your tie rods so your toe is now set too far in causing the front tires to point at each other. The one behind the rear axle shouldn't have changed much it should be the front one that is causing this. Just reset it on the rack tomorrow and it should be fine.

Hope your right. How did springs effect the toe? It feels like a caster problem. But id much rather it be.a toe problem. That's adjustable. Lol
 
Hope your right. How did springs effect the toe? It feels like a caster problem. But id much rather it be.a toe problem. That's adjustable. Lol


Because essentially you moved the point where the rod is attached to the pitman arm farther away from the part where it is attached to the knuckle so if you didn't lengthen it now is shorter than it should be.

I imagine when you are driving straight the steering wheel isn't centered??
 
Because essentially you moved the point where the rod is attached to the pitman arm farther away from the part where it is attached to the knuckle so if you didn't lengthen it now is shorter than it should be.

I imagine when you are driving straight the steering wheel isn't centered??

Steering wheel is perfect. Has been since the last time I aligned it.
 
Because essentially you moved the point where the rod is attached to the pitman arm farther away from the part where it is attached to the knuckle so if you didn't lengthen it now is shorter than it should be.

Toe is adjusted with the tie-rod, which is connected from one knuckle directly to the other. Changing the distance between the frame and the axle has no effect on toe whatsoever because the tie rod is not connected to the frame or suspension. Steering wheel alignment could be affected because the effective distance between the pitman arm and the PS knuckle has changed, not toe.

Ryan, tell us what the numbers on the rack tell you. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
 
Toe is adjusted with the tie-rod, which is connected from one knuckle directly to the other. Changing the distance between the frame and the axle has no effect on toe whatsoever because the tie rod is not connected to the frame or suspension. Steering wheel alignment could be affected because the effective distance between the pitman arm and the PS knuckle has changed, not toe.

Ryan, tell us what the numbers on the rack tell you. I'll keep my fingers crossed.


Yeah I was thinking the tie rod had been removed when doing the lift, its the normal thing to do with the radius arms there. Normally when an 80 is lifted the relay rod is left in and the tie rod is removed which causes one wheel to move in and then the tie rod is incorrectly adjusted to compensate. Seen quite a few threads in 80's section on this. If neither were removed then it shouldn't have effected the toe at all. The fact that the steering wheel didn't move is strange though, it should have.

I'm lost to what it could be.... but the wandering effect on an 80 is normally from toe being incorrectly set.
 
I guess we shall find out tomorrow
 
Why in the world would someone remove the tie rod to help install coil springs? I don't think it made the job any more inconvenient than it was. Oh well, we'll find out tomorrow!
 
Yeah sorry I should have clarified exactly what I was talking about a little better but i'm half asleep right now. :doh:
 
Photos from the weekend

Here's the pics...I realized my picture taking ability drops as I consume beer..(notice the blurry night time pic:D)

Ill upload the video tomorrow, but I dont think I caught too much...we shall see!
hamom early start.webp

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Why in the world would someone remove the tie rod to help install coil springs? I don't think it made the job any more inconvenient than it was. Oh well, we'll find out tomorrow!



Some people do and have had the same problem here. Not how i've done it but i've seen it done that way before... just remove as much stuff as possible to get in there if its just jacked up in the driveway. I thought I saw mention of it but looking back it must have been in another thread or I just imagined it.... not enough sleep this weekend is really F-ing with me right now and i'm not thinking straight.
:frown:


Were adjustable panhards installed??? it can cause problems on some rigs but every one is different.
 
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