Get some upgraded bump stops from @PerryParts . It's a 10 minute install if things aren't rusty and they make a huge difference over the factory hockey pucks.
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Yeah sure seems like @r2m is trying to keep me out of the west.
I have to agree with @Rednexus. There are no public offroading areas within 6 hours of me and that is Big Bend. Looking at Onx offroad, there isn't anything mapped that isn't just a public road with a little dirt road and water crossings. It's really bad.
Back to the original subject, I got my 6112 HD kit yesterday and will install it this weekend. I was test fitting my new wheels and I have been hitting bump stops. Looks like it is pretty bad.
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The wheels look great and I can't wait to get them mounted in the next few weeks. We are heading down to Port Aransas in a few weeks so I'll get to try out K03s in the sand.
onX is dead to me they lost me after I paid for onX hunt SD cards for Mn. and Wi. with lifetime updates when they first came out then decided to drop cards and moved everything to the cloud and cell. Most places I go don't have cell reception.
He was at the Midwest Double Gun classic shoot weekend before last, can't miss the truck.
Well he does run an 8 hole dog box so can't be all bad....
Yes to the PerryParts bump stops although I still need to install mine. I've had to replace bumpstops on my last 3 rigs it seems to be a common thing anymore.
re_guderian
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Not sure about the 460, but also not sure why it would be different, but bumpstops can limit slow-speed up travel. I did a good comparison on my 100 series. But then again, the 100 had abysmal front travel, and every inch counted...
Heavy skids + aged OEM suspension = bump stop contact
The Perry/Duro bumps are slightly taller than stock. They are, however, a multi-layer compound, with the upper-most layer (that contact the LCA) being softer and then 1-2 more progressively harder layers after that. The OEM bump stops are a single layer of very stiff rubber. I would imagine the compressed height is about the same as stock.
I have DuroBumps on my rig and they are an awesome mod. Never the jarring "thund" when bottoming out the rig. Mine also hit all the time - as evidenced by the marks on my LCAs are rear axle tubes - since I drive my GX like a rally car on our gravel roads
. If it wasn't for the marks, I'd never know they contacted the LCA. Duros have gone up 2X in price so we put Perrys on a buddy's Tundra and they are just as good as the Duros.
I have DuroBumps on my rig and they are an awesome mod. Never the jarring "thund" when bottoming out the rig. Mine also hit all the time - as evidenced by the marks on my LCAs are rear axle tubes - since I drive my GX like a rally car on our gravel roads
. If it wasn't for the marks, I'd never know they contacted the LCA. Duros have gone up 2X in price so we put Perrys on a buddy's Tundra and they are just as good as the Duros.The bump stops are the up-travel limiter on the 460 and that's what you want. You want to run out of physical travel in the suspension geometry before you run out of shock up/down travel. But the stock 460 front bumpstops are hard rubber pucks so big hits are jarring - probably better than metal on metal contact but not by much. The Perryparts are longer, so they start engaging earlier to smooth those big hits out but they don't limit up travel (unless you get the longer versions meant to limit uptravel and keep 35s from crushing the fenders).
Really happy to see y’all recommending my business on here, thanks folks!
One other feature that our product offers is true damping (essentially energy dissipation) much like how a hydro bump works. This is enabled by our compression damping ports that lead into the interior core of the product. As opposed to other products on the market that primarily act like rubber or urethane springs.
We had the efficacy of this design tested by an independent third party suspension expert and measured up to 4x the amount of energy absorbed by the bump stop. That’s rebound energy that your shocks don’t need to dissipate, or potentially cause uncontrolled rebound.
And the product is fully tunable. So if for any reason you’re unsatisfied, please reach out. I can tweak the design for you, and I get to further improve the product.
www.perryparts.com
One other feature that our product offers is true damping (essentially energy dissipation) much like how a hydro bump works. This is enabled by our compression damping ports that lead into the interior core of the product. As opposed to other products on the market that primarily act like rubber or urethane springs.
We had the efficacy of this design tested by an independent third party suspension expert and measured up to 4x the amount of energy absorbed by the bump stop. That’s rebound energy that your shocks don’t need to dissipate, or potentially cause uncontrolled rebound.
And the product is fully tunable. So if for any reason you’re unsatisfied, please reach out. I can tweak the design for you, and I get to further improve the product.
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re_guderian
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I had Wheeler brand bumpstops on the 100. Here's a link to the thread that will keep you busy all afternoon... Some guys took them off, some cut them down, and some kept them.
forum.ih8mud.com
With tires aired down, and aftermarket lift spring and shocks, I have not bottomed out my GX like I did the 100 series, same roads, same speeds.
Wheeler Offroad "Superbumps" installed.
Any other interested buyers in AZ looking to group order to save some on shipping?
forum.ih8mud.com
With tires aired down, and aftermarket lift spring and shocks, I have not bottomed out my GX like I did the 100 series, same roads, same speeds.
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r2m
Richard
Every fraction of an inch counted on both 100 series my wife and I had!
Hated that torsion bar front suspension. Other than that, those rigs are great!
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Over the weekend, I installed the 6112 "Heavy" kit on the front and I can't believe how much of a difference in ride quality. Install wasn't bad. Took about 4 hours and the only difficult part was getting the strut in the lower seat on the passenger side. Had to bounce on a pry bar while my kid pushed the bolt in place. These shocks are beasts.
I was really worried about the spring stiffness since it was sitting so high but took it for a test drive before doing anything to the rear and it road surprisingly well even if it looked funny.
Put a few washers in the rear to even it out and it's pretty close so I mounted the 285/70r17 KO3s and got another inch of clearance. Had to do some zip tie work on the fender liners and haven't been able to get it to rub since that. I have about .5" clearance from the body mount so I need to keep an eye on that when I get it aligned this week.
There is a resurfaced road leaving my neighborhood that has always been very jarring but now it is now much smoother. I am wondering if I was banging the bump stops this whole time. It rides great on the highway and I went out to some rough roads and it was much closer to how people describe a GX riding.
Thanks for all the advice in this thread. It was very helpful.
I was really worried about the spring stiffness since it was sitting so high but took it for a test drive before doing anything to the rear and it road surprisingly well even if it looked funny.
Put a few washers in the rear to even it out and it's pretty close so I mounted the 285/70r17 KO3s and got another inch of clearance. Had to do some zip tie work on the fender liners and haven't been able to get it to rub since that. I have about .5" clearance from the body mount so I need to keep an eye on that when I get it aligned this week.
There is a resurfaced road leaving my neighborhood that has always been very jarring but now it is now much smoother. I am wondering if I was banging the bump stops this whole time. It rides great on the highway and I went out to some rough roads and it was much closer to how people describe a GX riding.
Thanks for all the advice in this thread. It was very helpful.
Jeremy what rock sliders/steps are those? They look much more integrated than the usual tubular ones.
r2m
Richard
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Victory sliders. That is why I bought them. They look like something that could be OEM.
Huge improvement. Amazing how much better one of these rigs look with wheels/tires and a mild lift.
FWIW, also though my old suspension felt fine. After the lift I realized it was totally shot. A set of progressive bump stops are also a cheap/easy investment that will help it perform even better.
FWIW, also though my old suspension felt fine. After the lift I realized it was totally shot. A set of progressive bump stops are also a cheap/easy investment that will help it perform even better.
