Buy new and drive it for 20 years with minimal headaches.
Those days are gone.
It's now buy new and drive 3 years with minimal headaches
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Buy new and drive it for 20 years with minimal headaches.
Anything with a ZF8 seems to be this way. the multiple Ram 1500 rentals I have had, IMHO, are amazing. The ZF8 always had the Hemi right where it needed to be with no lag or dramaInteresting. My BMW 535d diesel inline 6 coupled with the ZF 8 speed is motor/transmission management wise the very best of any vehicle I have owned. I would expect the Grenadier to be excellent in that space. Toyota could learn from that IMO.
Just came by this. Nice demo of the Grenadier's offroad capabilities. Apologize if this is a repost.
nothing is made to last 20 years anymore....how would the stock price go up?!
Which I find heartbreaking, after 10 years of 80-series DD ownership (94-04), and ~20 years of DD 100-series ownership (06-current), not to mention long term Mercedes W123 & (early) Lexus LS ownership.
Is there any currently in production vehicle, that is worth owning, past its warranty period, or have we completely moved to the “disposable electronics” model?
How is this “Luxury Camry” built differently from the (formerly “development cost is no object”, and “as reliable as an anvil”) equivalent LS or LX?2025 Lexus ES 350
How is this “Luxury Camry” built differently from the (formerly “development cost is no object”, and “as reliable as an anvil”) equivalent LS or LX?
Having purchased both an original LS400, and a second gen LX470, new, and having driven them for decades, along with multiple interim “bean counter” Toyota/Lexus vehicles, please excuse my skepticism, for a generic Toyota/Lexus vehicle.There's no mystical reliability advantage to an LS or an LX compared to many other Toyota models like a Corolla or a Camry. In fact they are probably less reliable due to being equipped with more bells and whistles and complexity... simply more things to go wrong.
Anyways, the current in production Camry is hybrid only - and it's a pretty damn nice vehicle too. Around 50 MPG, 700 miles of range. I've seen reports of 800+ miles on a tank if you hyper-mile it (if your into that sort of thing). And you can be OTD for $29k in LE trim. Probably the best new bang for your buck buy in 2025. Long term reliability is TBD.
The current in production ES 350 still has Toyota's (now ancient) bread and butter 2GR V6 with an 8 speed auto. No hybrid, no turbocharger. It's going to be fine past the warranty period.
Point being is there are still good options out there even in 2025.
i like this naturally aspirated Lexus idea in 2025