how to build a one-ton 40? (1 Viewer)

[Mace]

I agree on the Al tcases. Unless of course it is an atlas.

A front D60 hub with Warn hubs sticks out. A lot. with 39.5" Irok's and ~5ish" of backspacing I whack mine on rocks. Even doing simple wheeling.

Hi, I honestly believe that a mini on 44's is not really a good truck to compare a 40 to. Most 40;s use springs that are very flat. For a mini to fir 44's you are talking about moving the axle forward a bunch, and gining it a TON of lift. Or removing part of the hood for the tires to not rub

BTW, I assume that the rims were stazworks. Who makes a 44x14.50 tire?


Again, I think buy as new as possible and sell the tranny/tcase and get something simpler

from what I understand most gm trucks use a PS box that is identical to the standars Saginaw but mounts on the outside of the frame. I have looked at one for comparison but think that it would not be the cleanest install. All of the AC system will work except for the in cab portions.
You can make just about ANY motor fit in a 40 with a bit of massaging. It all depends on how wild you want to go..
Rear driveline would probably work but would be HUGE. typically trucks use a bigger diameter DL than 40's do. Which is good for strength but bad for rocks. Front driveline is a tossup. I have the impression that the front DL would get in the way of the tranny.
Additionaly the front 60 typically has a 1310 U joint flange. I would upgrade that while you are at it.

 

[HI^C]

$$$$$$ for atlas, highly questionable strength, IMO i am not sold on one, especially in a full body rig with weight.

i was never comparing a mini to a 40, you asked specifics of the vehicle then i said it was a mini. I was just discussing overall width period, the mini numbers where handy at the time, i didnt feel like use my dually tow rig measurements, nor slap up some tires on one of the 60f axles laying here.
While talking mini, i dont think it is as tall as my DD 40 soa with hardtop, i do know it fit in the garage with the 44s on it. NOT trimmed at all yet. approx 8in lift on the mini, axle moved forward some but mostly for extended wheelbase. enough about the runner but i do have some pics.

its actually a 43+ in tall tire 13.5r20 michelin xl

back to the thread.

all chevy kingpin 60f are the same basically, there are early neckdown inner shafts, later none neckdown shafts, I am asking few others to help layout an exact yr they changed the shafts. There might be slight differences in the inner shaft lengths? All yr 14b 10.5" are the same (not a eaton) later have more ribs on the housing.

d60f dodge is share the same parts with the chevy only the housing length and inner shafts lengths are different. early dodge have bolt on flanges rather then internal splined hubs.
d61f share the same outers with the d60f but inside are not suppose to work (i was told).

I suggest researching exact engine, trans, transfer, 60f and 14b are a given with a SRW 1 ton chevy, that you want. buying a vehicle that has everything you need, or able to sell parts to purchase the parts you want, trade, etc.... For BBC injected look into boat motors, for possible cheap source. another buddy just bought a 81 1ton 454 th400 np205 60, 14 for $1000, running and driving. Good deals to be had, and possible money to be made.

 

[AZFJ]

less, at last check moser charged $80 ish just to open any package from you to look at it.
$40 is so rough for out boarding materials me being generous, i think i might have $30 in materials including new bolts, shackle material, and mount material. you have to weld so there is a good bit more welding with the outboard but say even if you had $50 in materials/ beer it still is cheaper then resplining a shaft, you could buy new custom which imo is a good way but way more $$$$. I say one could do a outboard setup in say a 8ish hr day, too many variables.

was there no press fit? machined too much?

rims beadlocks in general costs close/round about the same price, these happend to be double beadlocks costs exact same no matter 2" bs or 4" bs. Then off the shelf alum have a 4.5 bs on a 9 wide rim (i checked today) still measure 84" and not custom of any sort.

I have some more pics, and working on the rest of them, send me an email.

..Well to each his own!!..If you have some fabbing skills..Havnt bought wheels yet..Outboarding can be a way to go..I already had the wheels and tires I was going to run..Knew how wide I wanted to be..Cutting her down was the only way to go!

Moser charges $55 to cut and respline plus the shipping..I think I have about $80 all together in the shaft..I already knew my set up worked well..So..I didnt want to mess with it!..Yep..Knuckle had to be pressed on..not too tough...It doesnt have to be perfect..I dont think it is..Weld the crap out of it...done..anyway...There you go..figure out which one is the way to go and do it..IT'S ONLY MONEY!!..Right?

 

[HI^C]

your right to each his own LOL. If your happy then that is all that matters.

$55 wonder if they came down with the pricing, might have a few items to go to them.

press fit is what centers/aligns it on the housing. caster angle setting can be fun.

Word back from one d60 source chevys change around 81 to 83 with shaft change.
but, used inners can be had $100 or under for the none neckdowns.

 

[treerootCO]

1 ton

I ordered this brochure and it looks like it wouldn't take much to make a 1 ton Cruiser