How strong is the front bumper support?

[haydukee]

This might get me a bit of heat for asking, but I haven’t found any information elsewhere so hear me out…. Is the front bumper support strong enough to jack up with a hi-lift? Or is that an idiotic idea that will end with many broken parts and limbs? Mind you the bumper cover would be out of the way.

Thanks

 

[Njck22]

This might get me a bit of heat for asking, but I haven’t found any information elsewhere so hear me out…. Is the front bumper support strong enough to jack up with a hi-lift? Or is that an idiotic idea that will end with many broken parts and limbs? Mind you the bumper cover would be out of the way.

Thanks

Center section(between frame horns) could probably handle a well distributed hi-lift jack. The wings will easily fold is my guess what will happen. If you try it report back and let us know.

 

[IndroCruise]

This might get me a bit of heat for asking, but I haven’t found any information elsewhere so hear me out…. Is the front bumper support strong enough to jack up with a hi-lift? Or is that an idiotic idea that will end with many broken parts and limbs? Mind you the bumper cover would be out of the way.

Thanks

To get an idea of the structure of the vehicle, go to
https://lc100e.github.io/manual/
then use Index on left hand side of opening page and follow tabs to
Body Repair Manual for Collision Damage > BODY DIMENSIONS > BODY DIMENSION DRAWINGS
then scroll though the pages to see diagrams of the relevant model (see pages DI-8, DI-9, DI-14, DI-15, DI-16, DI-17 for UZJ-100)

These drawings give an idea of what parts form the underframe or chassis of the vehicle, as distinct from the body which is attached to the frame.

Not exactly sure what you have in mind but strongly recommend arrangements which allow hi-lift jacking of the frame/chassis only, and then only after expert attachment of a suitable socket or other attachment to receive the jack without slipping.

A naked 100 series frame/chassis is shown in the pic (credit: @Moridinbg) which may be helpful. Front of the vehicle is on the left in the picture.

Strongly recommend do not jack any of the body parts of the vehicle. The body is attached to the chassis with 10 bolts and bushes (red arrows in the pic below) and will not withstand jacking without very high risk of accident, vehicle damage and/or injury.

If a steel Front Bar is in your future, suggest obtain one which comes with fit-for-purpose already in-built hi-lift jacking points and which transfer the load to the frame/chassis.

Alternatively, use lifting straps which attach to the wheel and allow safe use of a hi-lift jack (see second pic below), then place a jackstand under the chassis rail to allow safe work on the vehicle, wheel change, etc.

If not already done, also suggest check out a few Youtube videos on the use of a Hi Lift jacks. These things are good simple tools but they also have a long reputation as bone-breakers when not used in the right way.

 

[JunkCrzr89]

The wings will fold like a tin can.

 

[Mike NXP]

Do you think you'll ever need your hi-lift? Serious question, I drove around with my for years and realized it just wasn't worth it. The tire attachment is a solid option though and can avoid any body damage, if your bogged down it will be able to lift you up enough to fill in the hole / dig out whatever your hung up on.

 

[JunkCrzr89]

Do you think you'll ever need your hi-lift? Serious question, I drove around with my for years and realized it just wasn't worth it.

x2. I had a hi-lift for a decade and used it maybe 3 times. Realized the factory Jack with an LCP adapter and a larger baseplate was better, easier, and probably safer than the hi-lift.

 

[Mike NXP]

x2. I had a hi-lift for a decade and used it maybe 3 times. Realized the factory Jack with an LCP adapter and a larger baseplate was better, easier, and probably safer than the hi-lift.

Good call on that, I went the same route. For tire repair / swap that setup is key. I trust OP wants the hi lift for when getting bogged down which I can understand. My solution was to avoid getting stuck =] The cruiser is pretty predictable and after getting beached a few dozen times at some point you think, hmm, maybe I shouldn't drive into that.

 

[hoser]

The OE bottle jack does one thing well. The Hi-lift does nothing well... but it sure does a lot of things.... and useful for getting you out of a jam. I'm sure there is a thread around somewhere.... "1001 uses for the Hi-lift jack"

 

[haydukee]

Do you think you'll ever need your hi-lift? Serious question, I drove around with my for years and realized it just wasn't worth it. The tire attachment is a solid option though and can avoid any body damage, if your bogged down it will be able to lift you up enough to fill in the hole / dig out whatever your hung up on.

I’ve used it once on my family’s fj60, but honestly I’m starting to believe it’s just dead weight. Unless I get the tire attachment, in which case I assume it could be helpful, but I’m not sure if it’d be more effective at getting unstuck than my traction pads, shovel, and some pixie dust…

 

[Mike NXP]

I’ve used it once on my family’s fj60, but honestly I’m starting to believe it’s just dead weight. Unless I get the tire attachment, in which case I assume it could be helpful, but I’m not sure if it’d be more effective at getting unstuck than my traction pads, shovel, and some pixie dust…

For sure, everyone's use is different so if it makes sense for you then may be worth it. I suppose in my world I noticed several years going by with no reason for the hi lift. I always envisioned maybe using it as a winch/come along or maybe if I got bogged down I could lift from my wheel but just never had a need for it.

 

[RedesKat]

Carry two bottle jacks, plank of wood and a shovel it will get you out of 90%+ of situations safer and easier than a hi lift

 

[Manhattan]

The most common use of the Hi-Lift is to signal "Hey look at me! I'm going on a safari." I'm guilt of this - had one mounted on a roof rack for years. That truck actually was used off road... the jack was not. Yes, they do have some applications. But the only jackatastrophies I've seen were with hi-lifts.

 

[suprarx7nut]

I had a hi-lift on my 99. I did not carry that over to my 06. I used it a few times. That product is a good way to lift weight long distances without hydraulics if you're limited to mid 20th century manufacturing. But it's not a good product to lift a vehicle in 2021, IMO.

I now have an ARB "Jack" mostly because it's a normal hydraulic jack with longer reach. Expensive, but at least functional and safe. If I didn't splurge on the ARB Jack I'd be fine rocking the standard Toyota jack with a base plate and some little pucks to add height if needed.

In short: hi lifts are dumb and going out of your way to use one on the factoy bumper reinforcements is also dumb. No Offense.

 

[haydukee]

I had a hi-lift on my 99. I did not carry that over to my 06. I used it a few times. That product is a good way to lift weight long distances without hydraulics if you're limited to mid 20th century manufacturing. But it's not a good product to lift a vehicle in 2021, IMO.

I now have an ARB "Jack" mostly because it's a normal hydraulic jack with longer reach. Expensive, but at least functional and safe. If I didn't splurge on the ARB Jack I'd be fine rocking the standard Toyota jack with a base plate and some little pucks to add height if needed.

In short: hi lifts are dumb and going out of your way to use one on the factoy bumper reinforcements is also dumb. No Offense.

Yeah i figured it’d be kinda dumb so im not taking offense lol. To be honest I’ve been hearing more against them than for them so I’m thinking of saving myself 60lbs and ditching it, at least for now. Traction pads and a shovel have gotten me out of many more situations than a hilift.

 

[hoser]

I hate carrying around that boat anchor. If somebody else in my group has one, I won't bring mine. But I do find them useful. Here are some of the things I've either used it for or seen it used for:

-Lift: Straighten out a driveshaft or tie rod (straight axle type)
-Leverage: handle detaches and makes 2 ft breaker bar for your socket wrench
-Break tire bead in case you have to change out a damaged valve stem or patch a ripped tire. You can even change out a tire.
-Press: press in a bushing or U-Joint
-Handle also can be used to repair/strengthen a bent tie-rod (straight axle).
-Firewood splitter: Used as a clamp and best with bladed attachment
-Vehicle extrication: used as a spreader.... best accompanied with a sawzall.
-Come-a-Long/winch

Oh, yeah, and can be used as a jack.
"Jack of all trades, master of none."