How do you get a 37" tire on a swing out?

[sdnative]

Some of these swingouts/downs extend really far from the truck. From a practicality standpoint, I would want whatever was attached to my bumper to extend little distance as possible when fully extended/swung/dropped, etc. A good number of times I don't have a lot of room behind the truck when I need to get into the back (in the garage, up against a wall, tree, etc).

I like the pulley system or crank idea. Toyota used something along these lines from the factory (under the truck). Maybe a lightweight pulley system that can attach to the bumper when needed and then can be removed / disassembled when not in use.

Great thread BTW.

 

[Nay]

If you can sacrifice the lower part of the hatch functionality, then it is easy: just do a straight swingdown with a limiting strap back to the separate hitch pin bumper mounts instead of the body like that Jeep design.

Release the limiting straps entirely for tire mounting, but keep them on for daily use so the tire only swings down far enough to open the upper hatch.

I still need to add my limiting straps. And I can't find my pics...but they are posted somewhere...

 

[Enigma]

Don't wear your dress when changing tires ?


I kid I kid...I wanted to do option #3 as well, but just went the regular old swing out for my weeny little 315's.

 

[Douglas S]

Any ideas for rigging something up that uses a hi-lift?

 

[-Spike-]

Any ideas for rigging something up that uses a hi-lift?

You know, that's not a terrible idea. Some kind of sling might work very well to get a tire on the swingout. Won't help me get the bastard on the roof, but worthy nonetheless. The jack will be out anyway if you're changing the tire.

 

[Ebag333]

You know, that's not a terrible idea. Some kind of sling might work very well to get a tire on the swingout. Won't help me get the bastard on the roof, but worthy nonetheless. The jack will be out anyway if you're changing the tire.

Why not? Base attaches to top of bumper (fixed), has a tube attachment that you sling the tire on, then jack it up as high as it will go. If you have a tall HiLift, should get it nearly to the roof.

If you were uber clever, could have your tire mount rotate 90* to be flat (rather than vertical). Then you just just slide the tire onto the roof rack.

 

[SiRaDuDe]

Easy for roof...

Winch, pulleys on ceiling or tree branch. Leave pulleys permanent for laziness.

 

[Walking Eagle]

I reckon the extension above the tyre with a couple of 3 pulley block and tackles from a sailing shop would be relatively cheap and simple. You might only need 2 x 2 pulley which would give you a 4:1 ratio. 20lb pull will lift 80lbs, you might have to walk a ways though.

something like this is what I was thinking - Don't need 4,000 lbs capacity, but the smaller ones have inconvient ends and small diameter rope that always seems to cut into my hand - but for 15 bucks, and a little steel - it'd make being a candy ass easier.

 

[-Spike-]

Why not? Base attaches to top of bumper (fixed), has a tube attachment that you sling the tire on, then jack it up as high as it will go. If you have a tall HiLift, should get it nearly to the roof.

If you were uber clever, could have your tire mount rotate 90* to be flat (rather than vertical). Then you just just slide the tire onto the roof rack.

How do I get the tire from the ground to the base of the hi-lift, which is apparently somehow mounted to the top of the bumper?

 

[Walking Eagle]

you could also do a standard swingout, but add a pinned pivot system to the horizontal arm. This would most likely be the cleanest setup. When you went to unload your spare, just swing it out and release the pin, allowing the arm to swing down to a more manageable level. reverse order for loading.

Only two issues I can think of with that one. The first is to make it drop the tire far enough to get it on the ground (my bumper is in the 34-36" off the ground range) - I'd need the tire way at the end of the arm. That does two bad things, you loose any mechanical advantage - not the end of the world, I'll take 130 lbs controled over 130 lbs of unmanagable anyday. That also puts the weight of the tire further away from the spindle. Secondly when I lift the tire up how do I reach the pin to put it in? If you had one that would click in that wouldn't be bad, but I don't want to be holding 130 lbs on one end of pivot trying to reach a pin 36" away from me, even with my orangotang arms.

A slight modification of that idea though, I could make the swingout the full length of the bumper - then make a 'basket' that was about 12" wide that also ran the whole width. Swing it out, tilt it down and roll the tire up/down - think that mog link might have had something along these lines - still have the issue of getting it to lock / pin up while holding it. Would however gain the basket area for a cooler or whatever.

 

[Cannon88]

Herc it up there. I put mine on my roof unassisted. Candy-ass.

LOL!

WE-I am curious as to what you come up with, and think it can be beneficial for those that feel the need to lug a spare around.

 

[Walking Eagle]

check out this thread post number 24 and on has good info on mounting a 37" tire/wheel....

https://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/531600-rear-tire-mount-pics-please.html

Good thread - thanks

37" fits straight onto my Kaymar swingout w/o mods. You could use the swingout off a Kaymar.

Making a standard swingout is no issue - it's the act of lifting a 130 lb tire 5.5 ft off the ground that is the problem.

If you can sacrifice the lower part of the hatch functionality, then it is easy: just do a straight swingdown with a limiting strap back to the separate hitch pin bumper mounts instead of the body like that Jeep design...

Ya', but then I got to lift whatever goes in the back up above a tailgate that is even higher - well, that and drawers have been on the 'when I get around to it' list for 6 years.

 

[Walking Eagle]

Any ideas for rigging something up that uses a hi-lift?

Could be done. Just switch it so that the sliding part is the larger tube, then you could attach the tire to the arm, attach the hi-lift to the outer tube, and jack the tube up and the tire comes with it. Seems like more work than just using a $15 rope hoist and the high lift is going to be in a really bad possition to get any leverage on it. But it could be done.

 

[Ebag333]

How do I get the tire from the ground to the base of the hi-lift, which is apparently somehow mounted to the top of the bumper?

Well, if you're too much of a to lift the tire from the ground to the top of the bumper (which is infinitely easier than from the ground to the roof rack), with a short ramp you could wheel it up.

 

[Walking Eagle]

Funny how the threads you think will get lots of attention don't and those you think won't get a single response get lots. Thanks for all the input that is not calling me a candy ass or telling me to go to the gym.

Thinking about this some more last night, I came up with what's below. A slot in the outer verticle tube will alow a sping pin to slide up and down. There will be holes at the top and bottom for it to lock into. Can't decide on side or back for slot. Think side would be easier to reach, back would be better for Or, maybe forgo the whole slot thing now that I'm thinking about it, cause I don't need the arm to be held in the down possition, so just a pin to hold it in the up posssition. Just thought it'd be easier for raising the arm. We'll see.

The swing out arm will have two rods that come out, then up then connect that the tire will sit down in. Kind of a tube basket.

The top arm when it comes down into the travel / down possition has a turn down / hook that will force the tire back tight against the verticle. The arm sits on top of the tire at this point. I Thought about pinnning it in this possition, but I don't think it will hold the tire tight enough. So, rather than pin it down, just run a strap around the bottom craddle and around the tire, over the top arm

Not necessary in the top arm, but an option would be a front to back slot with a pin in it, The pin would be what you hook the rope hoist to, and then it could slide forward and back. But I'm guessing that if you just put the hoist attachment out far enough that the tire isn't banging into the bumper too bad while lifting, swinging it into the lower 'basket' wouldn't be too difficult.

I really need to get solid works back on this computer so I can draw stuff up properly, but here's what I"m thinking......

 

[retrofive]

Here is what a club member has made for his and another 4runner.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/ca-jefferson-state-cruisers/355254-out-old-well-old-5.html#post6769564

Just more ideas.

 

[Ebag333]

Here is what a club member has made for his and another 4runner.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/ca-jefferson-state-cruisers/355254-out-old-well-old-5.html#post6769564

Just more ideas.

Forgot about that. Aric's method is pretty pimp, it worked nicely.

 

[bugsnbikes]

its all about helium these days.........

 

[darwink1]

Swing out.

Swing down

Had that one on the 80 for a couple years then switched it up to fit a 37.

They are both a lot easier to swing into position on the swing downs compared to dead lifting the tire up onto the mount.
Some kind of winch contraption (atv winch?) can be added to eliminate vaginal strains fairly easily as well lol.

D

 

[retrofive]

One thing I like about yours and the one gnob made were when you swing it down you can easily toss the tire on, boltup and then swing back up.