Horn Not Working

[bambuhiphop]

Hi There,

My horn is out in my 87 FJ60. I can't find any info in the FSM I have. I want to troubleshoot before I go out a just buy new horns. Thanks for any help.

 

[Crelok]

if you havent done this allready, take the front cover off the steering wheel,screws are at the back of steering wheel,and make sure the wire from the horn cover is connected properly to the connection inside the steering wheel,,, if thats not it, im not sure, good luck

 

[slcfj62]

Your hazard warning lights work off the same fuse as the horn. So if your hazard flashers work, then the fuse is good. If not, replace the 15 Amp Haz/Horn fuse. If the fuse is good, all that is left in the circuit are the horns, the switch in the steering wheel, and the wires in between.

 

[REKCUT]

Just use your fingers. work better than a horn anyway

 

[sirenmoses]

didja do a Search here on Mud yet? Most frequent horn fix is putting washers under the ?contact? points, IIRC.

 

[cruiser_guy]

You need the horn contact pin. They DO wear and they are easily replaced. If you get intermittent horn function I'd bet that's your problem. I've had to do it twice on my '60 and also on other Toyota's. It will require pulling the steering wheel.

Part number is "Horn contact 84312-20011"

 

[alaska60]

X100..............contact points under steering wheel cover....I have been meaning to do mine for about three years now...LOL!!!

 

[sandcruiser]

easy easy job, takes an hour if you include the time you spend calling CDan and walking to your mailbox to get the part

before you order it, I would do the following:
check fuse (via hazards)
check horn (just ground the tab on the horn itself, it should honk and startle. Good times)
if those work, it's your contact

when you pull the wheel, it is easy, just don't yank the cover off too fast or you can damage the wiring there

also- I don't recall if you pull the wheel off completely, but if you do.... leave the big nut threaded on slightly when you yank the wheel off so that you don't smack yourself in the face. Been there, done that.

When you re-assemble, I use a shot of silicone spray on the mechanism to help keep it lubed. Someone else mentioned triflow or something similar that will gather less dust.

 

[lehiguy]

I've done this about six times on my Land Cruiser and my old "85 pickup that used the same parts for the horn ring and contact pin. The pin will wear out much faster than the ring on which it rides. I brought mine back to life the last time it quit working by putting a .22 casing with a ballpoint pen spring inside it over the end of the pin. It fits perfectly and it's made of the same material. Fortunately, ther are .22 casings lodged into most of the cracks and crevices of my Cruiser's interior due to the many midnight rabbit hunting excursions it has been on, but I digress. A ballpoint pen spring and a .22 casing will extend the life of your horn dramatically. Use dielectric grease too.

 

[HBFJ62]

Its gotta be the pin. Search and you will find lots of previous threads on how to replace it including some with pictures. Don't let a dealer or repair shop talk you into replacing the entire flasher assembly. One thread with a picture of the horn pin is..

https://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/182317-horn-not-working.html

 

[SUUEEET]

Clean the ring

This happened to me and was the only reason I didn't pass inspection here. Pulled the cover and the wheel and sanded and cleaned the contact points. Bent the ring up to contact better and has worked well since.

 

[bambuhiphop]

Thanks Guys, I had searched but didn't find this level of detail. I will take a look. I am thinking it may be the pin because hazards system flashes fine. Will also test the horns themselves. Perhaps I will post pics when I figure it out.

 

[Clonestocker]

Just had mine apart. Tons of brass everywhere. The pin is worn down enough that it won't touch anymore. Thanks for the part #. matt

 

[mp_cude]

clean the contacts, takes 5 minutes

 

[2mbb]

I recently replaced my aftermarket steering wheel with an OEM wheel. I replaced the brass ring (because I had one) but the horn still didn't work, except when the steering wheel was pointed straight ahead. I replaced the pin and now it works great. It's an easy fix. Remove the steering wheel and the plasticy cowl around the column. The pin is held on by an "E" clip and there is a spring, both of which come in the package with the pin from toyota. You will need a good set of needle nose pliers to get the "E" clip installed on the new pin.

A quick check you can do is to see if your horn will work when the steering wheel is turned to another position. If so, this is a clear indication there is something wrong with the contact between the pin and the ring.

 

[bambuhiphop]

Not what I was expecting???

All three buttons make contact.

 

[2mbb]

You're not there yet. Remove the center bold and remove the steering wheel from the steering shaft. Once's it's off, you will see a spring loaded post with a brass end. that's the "pin". If you look on the back side of the steering wheel hub you will see a brass ring--the yellow wire in your picture connects to it. the pin has probably been worn down and is no longer contacting with the brass ring.

 

[Michael Hanson]

22 caseing.Neat idea. Mine has shotgun shells and 38 rounds in the cracks.With a steering wheel puller this is very simple and easy to do. Mike

 

[bambuhiphop]

Ok, need more help. I removed the nut but cannot figure out how to remove the steering wheel. The FSM has a specialized tool for this. How do you do it without this tool? It is not popping off. Its on there good...

 

[Ducks]

Loosen the nut that holds the steering wheel on but don't take it completely off. Then pull on the steering wheel until it comes off. If you take the nut completely off, you'll hit yourself in the nose when it finally comes loose.