Hells Gate Questions....

[wolforange77]

So I’m doing a cross country trip beginning of August and I planned to spend a few days in Moab. Ok so watching videos the Hells Gate looks pretty crazy is it actually as bad as it looks can you do it in a 100? I’m not locked with every bit of armor Slee Off-road makes for the truck on a OME 2.5 lift with 33 inch MTs. Also if anyone’s in the Moab area and wants to wheel direct message me.

 

[Travis351]

I've seen it done in a 100. IIRC it had lockers front and rear on 33" tires. There is a bypass if it gets too hairy.

 

[Trunk Monkey]

I wouldn't do it totally open, either rear lock or a-trac. There's a part at the top where you lift the front, nice to be locked there. Def. wouldn't do the trail alone, having a spotter that's done it before is great, and the gate is an optional loop off Hell's Revenge, there's no bypass on the actual gate, once you're on it's either up or down.

 

[BadReligion]

Do not do it in an unlocked 100 with no spotter.

One you "drop in", there is no bypass. The steep entry would be tough to get back up. If this is your first time in Moab...start with Fins N Things.

 

[abuck99]

Not much margin for error in line selection. Having a spotter (that knows the line) is important.

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

Here is your line unlocked no spotter never lifted a tire and did it in 37 secs

 

[BadReligion]

Here is your line unlocked no spotter never lifted a tire and did it in 37 secs

That was the exception, not the norm. Nice driving.

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

Not much margin for error in line selection. Having a spotter (that knows the line) is important.

Having a spotter that knows what line you want is what is important. I have seen more people in big trouble here from a spotter. This is one of a few places in Moab you do not want to follow the black line.

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

I wouldn't do it totally open, either rear lock or a-trac. There's a part at the top where you lift the front, nice to be locked there. Def. wouldn't do the trail alone, having a spotter that's done it before is great, and the gate is an optional loop off Hell's Revenge, there's no bypass on the actual gate, once you're on it's either up or down.

Have you done it? This is bad info IMO

 

[BadReligion]

Having a spotter that knows what line you want is what is important. I have seen more people in big trouble here from a spotter. This is one of a few places in Moab you do not want to follow the black line.

Agreed. An 80 SFA does help. 100s tend to lift a front wheel when you start riding the wall with the PS front. Thats where a locker would really help. Or rear with atrac on. I have seen video of unlocked 200s make it up...but their version of atrac is definitely more advanced.

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

Agreed. An 80 SFA does help. 100s tend to lift a front wheel when you start riding the wall with the PS front. Thats where a locker would really help. Or rear with atrac on. I have seen video of unlocked 200s make it up...but their version of atrac is definitely more advanced.

If you go out of the black lines no tire will leave the ground. Hard to turn where you need to locked. IMO you are much better carrying your speed and know your line.

 

[BadReligion]

If you go out of the black lines no tire will leave the ground. Hard to turn where you need to locked. IMO you are much better carrying your speed and know your line.

I would agree with that as my first attempt in a 3x locked 80 on 37s was a near disaster. Worked out but toasted a PS mirror. Your line looked much smoother.

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

I would agree with that as my first attempt in a 3x locked 80 on 37s was a near disaster. Worked out but toasted a PS mirror. Your line looked much smoother.

Sounds like the same line the guy behind me took EKK!

Getting down was more mentally difficult for me, I used a spotter

 

[BadReligion]

Sounds like the same line the guy behind me took EKK!

Getting down was more mentally difficult for me, I used a spotter

Yeah. You better have functional brakes on that decent in!

 

[wolforange77]

Here is your line unlocked no spotter never lifted a tire and did it in 37 secs

Okay so that looks a lot more tame than in a lot of videos I have watched. I mean I have almost rolled my 100 twice wheeling since getting it in February so that doesn’t look to bad..

 

[Trunk Monkey]

Have you done it? This is bad info IMO

Yep, with 60, 80 and 100. Several times.

 

[wolforange77]

Yep, with 60, 80 and 100. Several times.

I’m pretty sure I got A-Trac on my side I got a 04 LX. Also does anyone else suggest any other cool trails.

 

[vman07]

...if a Kia can do it

 

[Trunk Monkey]

You should be fine, just take it easy up. It's when peeps over correct or go skinny pedal that bad things happen. As suggested, a good Moab starter is Fins, get to do the ups and downs and see what the sticky rock is like.

 

[wolforange77]

You should be fine, just take it easy up. It's when peeps over correct or go skinny pedal that bad things happen. As suggested, a good Moab starter is Fins, get to do the ups and downs and see what the sticky rock is like.

Perfect I got lots of wheeling experience not as much seat time in the LX but I’m sure I’ll be fine once I figure out the slick rock.