Has anyone seen this new Nitto tire?

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Lowe's hosted a lunch barbeque for contracters today.
While I was there, I saw a set of tires on a Chevy truck. They got my attention.
The raised black letters on the sides called the tire; Nitto Sand Grappler, Desert Terrain".
I have been running Nitto Terra Grapplers for five years. My second set is nearing the wear-out point. I am mostly impressed by the sidewall. I have several with multiple plugs in the sides that are still running. These tires are nearly indestructible. I have often wished that Nitto would come up with a better tread pattern. The Nittos so far have been nearly indestructible. The only problem is that the Terra is mostly useless on any frozen surface. It slides around like a tobbagon!:doh:
When I saw these "sand" Nittos, I perked up!
The tread on them looks more like flames than tread blocks. It curves around. The tread blocks are closer and smaller than on the Terra Grappler. There are tread areas on much of the sidewall that look like flames, very curvy.
Now, I don't care how sexy, curvy or "flamy" a tire looks. I am interested in how it works. I don't much care how a tire looks. I care about how it works. I need a tire that works.
I own, to date, seven Nitto 35" Terra Grapplers. Two are new, and the rest are in various states of distress. These tires cost $225 each. This cost hurts! :bounce2:
This is a lot to pay for a tire that won't work on ice. I put up with it because they have indestructible sidewalls. I have two with repairs in the sidewalls. The sidewall on a Nitto is thicker than the tread area of most tires. I have torn the sidewalls of more tires than most people do in the tread area in a lifetime.
I came from the Desert buggy area where I destroyed a tire mostly every weekend. It was normal. :bounce:A weekend outing cost a new tire. They were a part of the bumper system in cars that were expected to get wrecked, or at least crashed, on a normal Sunday drive. I went through more tires and rims in 5 years than most people do in a lifetime!
I have some idea about what kind of sidewalls can take abuse. The Nitto can take the abuse. Can anyone tell me if the new Nitto can take the abuse? Let me know.
 
I don't think I've ever asked, just what is it you drink?
 
Very little actually...
I am serious here. I really did destroy tires every week. I really did learn about the BS that tire manufacturers offer in advertisements. I have spent a lot of years in the auto biz. I finally got really sick of it all and quit it entirely.
I simply walked away from a lucrative business because I couldn't take the cheating that was going on. I couldn't do it anymore. I spent a lot of years fighting the dishonesty in the business, and finally gave up. I quit! Do you have a problem with that?
In all of my years in that biz, I only ever met one other man who was honest to a fault. His name was Rick Brown. He was my mentor for a lot of years. When he died, I left the business forever. I fought against dishonesty and greed in the auto repair business for over twenty years. I exposed dishonest mechanics at every turn. When Rick died, the light went out. He was one of the last of the few really honest men. When he died, I quit. I had seen enough.
When I started, there were a few cheaters in the biz. By the time that I quit, most of the guys were cheating and lying to get the work. It was sickening.
Thanks to Rick, I was in the back offices of most of the shops, seeing the way that they did business. It was sick. There were very few honest people in the business. Those few were losing business hand over fist. There was no longer any room for an honest mechanic.
Having an intimate knowledge of the back office practises of the auto shops in the Phoenix metro area, Rick and I could only come up with a list of less than 5% that were operating honestly in our opinion. Most of them are now out of business. That is a sad commentary on the business.
At one time, I had an intimate knowledge of every auto shop in the Phoenix area. At the present time, there are very few of them still in business that I could recommend.
It is true that hard times bring out the truth in a man's character. Honest men stick to principle no matter what. Others bend the rules when things get rough. I do not allow room for those who bend under pressure. They are the weak ones. The strong men stand firm. The strong women are even better.
True honesty is the best way to run a business for the long term. Those who fail to see that will often lose in the end. If you can't understand that, I am sorry for you.
 
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Looks like a pretty good tire. I wonder how it would do in the mud. I know the grapplers are tough tires and have stood up to a lot more beating than most others that I have tried.
 
What is the inquision about anyway?
I just want to know if anybody has seen or tested the new Nitto or not. What is the big deal?
Does Spike need his Pepsi spiked? Has he been without a spiked Pepsi for too long?
I saw this tire on a truck today. I wanted it right away. It is a Nitto tire with a "fire" tread motif, called the "Sand Grappler" or "Desert Terrain". It has a finer tread pattern than the "Terra Grappler" that we all love. It has a tread pattern like curls of fire. That should work well with uneven terrain. The tread pattern is better than square blocks of tread. The tread wraps deeper around the sidewall than it does on my Nittos. The sidewall tread reaches to the midline of the sidewall. The side tread is in a swirl patterm and is at most 1/4" deep on the sidewalls. The road tread is mostly in curls and swirls. It looks like it could be noisy on the road. Most of the tread gaps run across the tire tread area. Very few of the patterns run on the circumfrence of the tire. The tread is curly, very little of it runs with the curcumference, most patterns are across the tread area.
Just on a visual, the tire looks like it would grip well, but it would be a bit noisy. It is somewhere between an All-Terrain, and a Mud Tire.
The tire set that I saw was a prototype. We'll see!!!!
 
Those tires have been around for years.

Cool! Pray tell! Please!
Most of us in 4-season climes need a better Nitto. :bounce:
It is bar-none the toughest tire around for the cost. The block pattern Terra Grappler just doesn't work on ice.
 
I am mostly impressed by the sidewall. I have several with multiple plugs in the sides that are still running. These tires are nearly indestructible.


multiple sidewall plugs does not sound like an indestructible tire to me...

Is this the tire you are talking about? Nitto Dune Grappler
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It is a cool looking tire...a friend of mine has had a set for a couple of years now and he likes them. they are not that noisy and surprisingly have great wet weather traction. however, they do not work well on ice. not enough siping in the tread to give it grip.

if you want traction on ice i would think a tire with small flexible tread blocks almost like fingers would be your best bet.
 
Those of us in the NE have the exact opposite experience with the TG, it is an excellent snow tire. On ice the only thing that works is slowing down and studs.
 
those "dune nitto's" don't look like they would be all that great in snow and ice with what appears to be a total lack of sipping in the tread blocks
as said above. These tires have been around for a while though, i kind of always thought of them as kind of a show truck tire, but i could be wrong about that.
 
looks cool for a mall cruiser but for anything else, id say they are not for what i use my rig for.
 
What is the inquision about anyway?
I just want to know if anybody has seen or tested the new Nitto or not. What is the big deal?
Does Spike need his Pepsi spiked? Has he been without a spiked Pepsi for too long?

No inquisition, it's pretty well known in Az that when you get tippin', your fingers start clickin'. Nothing wrong with that, just a friendly jab. Carry on. :beer:
 
If you think the terra grappler doesn't grip ice you need a dedicated snow tire. That dune grappler isn't snow rated and the terra grappler is.
 
Bingo! That's the ticket, the info that I was looking for. Thanks, Beachcomber. I am likely sticking with what I have. They have been great so far, except for wet ice, which is pretty hard for any tire to beat. Having to think about tire costs once again, allow me to grasp at fantasies just a bit!
I have gotten over that now.
The main problem with ice is the width of the tire, not so much the tire itself. Having overkill large tires does have a downside. A set of tall skinnys for winter would be the best answer. But at 34" the cost of a spare set is ugly. It's not going to happen. Really, a second set of tires to use 4 months of the year at $1500-$1800 is not effective.
The Terra Grapplers work fine on the wettest ice if I let the air out. It is just inconvenient.
I have the strongest onboard compressor of anybody I know. What am I complaining about? I think I'll run what I have and stop whining!
The Nittos are really great. Expecting any tire to be perfect in every place is not very realistic. But we can hope. I would recommend them and I will likely buy another pair soon.
 
This is a bling tire... Like chrome on a cruiser. It could work, but there are better options. I would give it a try on my expedition just because I've loved my two sets of Nittos. I've had some ATs and some extreme muds on my cruiser.
 
My gy duratracks are pretty great in the winter... just sayin. Take a look and compare tread patterns, the dg looks like a slick in comparison.

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