GX550 & LC250 Tracking Thread (1 Viewer)

[TheLCProject]

I'll be curious to hear folks' experience pushing back against dealers trying to slap on markups. I've reserved a 1958 (with no markup) but had my name on lots of lists. Yesterday, another dealer offered me a similarly specced 1958 but with a $14K markup (actually $13,995...). When I politely declined and said the ADM was not something I was able to justify he said "everything is negotiable." So it all seems very speculative and hopeful on the dealers' part right now.

Was the vehicle they are calling you about still en route? If so, and as long as people are committing to ADM before it hits the lot, ADM will stick around. These need to sit on the lot with no one biting on the ADM for dealers to start MSRP deals.

 

[Fort9378]

Lots of buyers reporting nation-wide "QC Holds" on vehicles in port. Speculation is railcar shortage, but nothing concrete yet...

 

[M1911]

Lots of buyers reporting nation-wide "QC Holds" on vehicles in port. Speculation is railcar shortage, but nothing concrete yet...

On which vehicle? 250? GX? Or both?

 

[Fort9378]

On which vehicle? 250? GX? Or both?

Sorry. 250.

 

[MountaineerLC]

.Apparently, it can actually save you money over the long haul due to the 15K services running $1000-$1200.

What the heck are they servicing every 15k that cost that much?

 

[Jeremy556]

What the heck are they servicing every 15k that cost that much?

The service manager's wake board boat loan.

 

[Adam R]

Well, since none of my vehicles have seen the inside of service shop in 35+ years, the mandatory "service plan" would be a deal breaker for me.

I'd tell them to go pound sand.

When we bought our 100 series 20+ years ago with 40K miles on it, I had the Toyota dealer throw it up on a lift so I could get a good look at the underside before purchasing. Both front wheels had a bit of bearing play and they told it was "normal" and "designed to be like that."

I don't remember exactly what I said to them, but they snugged up the front hub nuts before I gave them a check. I'm convinced the employees at dealerships are 99% prior felons or ignorant fools.

 

[Fort9378]

Update from my sales guy on my delayed 250. I don't think it's 100% accurate. I dont think he really knows, and is just coming up with a reason. It doesn't make sense to hold in Japan if it just need to shift to a NY port.

 

[merchantmariner]

Update from my sales guy on my delayed 250. I don't think it's 100% accurate. I dont think he really knows, and is just coming up with a reason. It doesn't make sense to hold in Japan if it just need to shift to a NY port.
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Your sales guy doesn't know what he is talking about about. The bridge collapse has nothing to do with your delayed Landcruiser. Ships are scheduled months in advance for there port calls. While ports will be busier because of repositioned ships they wouldn't bump pre scheduled port calls. If someone else can look up your VIN I would ask them to check. Also for East coast deliveries Toyota ships to Jacksonville and New Jersey.

 

[Fort9378]

Your sales guy doesn't know what he is talking about about. The bridge collapse has nothing to do with your delayed Landcruiser. Ships are scheduled months in advance for there port calls. While ports will be busier because of repositioned ships they wouldn't bump pre scheduled port calls. If someone else can look up your VIN I would ask them to check. Also for East coast deliveries Toyota ships to Jacksonville and New Jersey.

It's not the sales guy's fault it's delayed. Theyre all delayed leaving Japan. I was just curious what he'd say. I'm not going to hassle him. It'll get here when it gets here

 

[ZRTactical]

Update from my sales guy on my delayed 250. I don't think it's 100% accurate. I dont think he really knows, and is just coming up with a reason. It doesn't make sense to hold in Japan if it just need to shift to a NY port.
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That’s not true. I had a new Porsche come into Sparrows Point which is right next to the bridge in early April. All these trucks come into PNW port and take rails to final destination

 

[Fort9378]

That’s not true. I had a new Porsche come into Sparrows Point which is right next to the bridge in early April. All these trucks come into PNW port and take rails to final destination

The east coast trucks do get delivered on the east coast, but it's Newark. Not Maryland.

 

[Franken470]

The east coast trucks do get delivered on the east coast, but it's Newark. Not Maryland.

My south east lexus dealer has said the come into west coast and get railed. Likely San Francisco, or Portland is their 2 most common ports.

 

[M1911]

My south east lexus dealer has said the come into west coast and get railed. Likely San Francisco, or Portland is their 2 most common ports.

Are you sure about San Francisco? It is my impression SF is not a big port anymore. Long Beach is the major port in CA.

 

[VamosHugo]

While checking on the delivery status of my ice cap 1958 (still scheduled, same dates as before) I noticed some LCs are showing up on SmartPath at a local dealership with no markups (TSRP). Might be worth a call for guys who are striking out in Northern California.

https://smartpath.toyota.com/inventory/details?source=t1&dealerCd=04201&vin=JTEABFAJ3RK004775&type=new

 

[MeWantLC]

Thank you for this ! I did not know a "Smartpath" was a thing or what it was, thanks ! Great to see this !

And.

At the same time, sad: This is from a Toyota corporation website, and they have dealer prices there.... up into the $90k and then some... which means Toyota does know about this shady situation.... I was naive, thought maybe they did not quite knew, I am way too naive/stupid.

Really depressing to see Toyota and Goverments allow to have situations like this....

EDIT:

Ahhhhhh... not all dealers are under Smartpath ! OK, that is at least one avenue where you can do that from "home" at it seems it shows you what you are paying for!

THANK YOU !

While checking on the delivery status of my ice cap 1958 (still scheduled, same dates as before) I noticed some LCs are showing up on SmartPath at a local dealership with no markups (TSRP). Might be worth a call for guys who are striking out in Northern California.

https://smartpath.toyota.com/inventory/details?source=t1&dealerCd=04201&vin=JTEABFAJ3RK004775&type=new

 

[Fort9378]

Looks like GX 550s are now also being placed on QC holds. Most likely suspect as some are reporting is an issue with traction control or stability control. Seems 4runners are being affected too. Though thats anecdotal.

 

[MeWantLC]

Well, I gotta be the most naive of them fools then...

I did the Smart buying thingy. In Toyota website, you can select the dealers that "offer" the Smart buying option. So I did sorted on them and found a First Edition. I followed all the steps. The truck is offered at MSRP plus some of the "extras" but not stated mark up. I got contacted by the dealearship first by email, and then confirmed that they could call me, I gave them props and good mark for that, for following procedure of not calling until I said call is ok, it couild have been text or email. Anyways, long story short, I got a call and sure enough, $15K mark up ! The guy was very polite and I politely explained to him that I am not buuign that and that with that behaviour, they are loosing costumers. Explaoned to him that I know they are making money already and then some; and that marking up vehihcesl is bad, specially to a costumer that only have owned Toyotas since living in this country. Also, that I have a well sorted 2013 and hence I won't trade as I know I will make more outside, and that people like me are buying Broncos and tjat I was "this" close to get one - no kiding here, they look great and MT for the win LOL- Anyways, guy kept my info in case.

I am VERY disapointed with Toyota for allowing this crzy $it, and for dealers to do this.

 

[M1911]

I am VERY disapointed with Toyota for allowing this crzy $it, and for dealers to do this.

Unfortunately, state franchise laws make it difficult for manufacturers to forbid dealers from setting their own prices.

 

[ryanjl]

Well, I gotta be the most naive of them fools then...

I did the Smart buying thingy. In Toyota website, you can select the dealers that "offer" the Smart buying option. So I did sorted on them and found a First Edition. I followed all the steps. The truck is offered at MSRP plus some of the "extras" but not stated mark up. I got contacted by the dealearship first by email, and then confirmed that they could call me, I gave them props and good mark for that, for following procedure of not calling until I said call is ok, it couild have been text or email. Anyways, long story short, I got a call and sure enough, $15K mark up ! The guy was very polite and I politely explained to him that I am not buuign that and that with that behaviour, they are loosing costumers. Explaoned to him that I know they are making money already and then some; and that marking up vehihcesl is bad, specially to a costumer that only have owned Toyotas since living in this country. Also, that I have a well sorted 2013 and hence I won't trade as I know I will make more outside, and that people like me are buying Broncos and tjat I was "this" close to get one - no kiding here, they look great and MT for the win LOL- Anyways, guy kept my info in case.

I am VERY disapointed with Toyota for allowing this crzy $it, and for dealers to do this.

Toyota bills the Smartpath dealers as not marking vehicles up. You may try contacting Toyota.

That said, the "markup" could be a bunch of port or dealer add-ons that amount to $15k. PPF, window tint, ceramic coat, Lowjack, etc. All for top dollar prices. All crap that you probably don't want, but all the first vehicles are going to have because the dealer believes people will pay it.