GX460 spare tire carrier options - bumper, hitch, swingout, etc? (1 Viewer)

[r2m]

Do you know if 35's fit without rubbing?

True 35" diameter tires will rub unless you have the 2.5" - 3" suspension lift, bang the heck out of your pinch welds, positive offset on your wheels/wheel spacers, and full caster forward.
I have what most call "35's", they're 315/70R17 BFG A/T's, that equates out to 34.4" O.D.. My rig has ALL of the above, excluding the wheel spacers. I get very minor rubbing at lock-to-lock.
So a "true" 35" tire will probably have a wee bit more rubbing unless pushed out (wheel spacers).
I wouldn't have any rubbing except that going to that size diameter also makes the tire wider. If I could find 35" tire with a 8" or 9" (or even 10"?) width, there wouldn't be any issues.

 

[G-Cat]

I think @mudwagon was being facetious

 

[mudwagon]

I think @mudwagon was being facetious

Lmfao. This x100000%

 

[jiggletits]

Fun fact, I have 32's. I bet you're a real hoot at gatherings. Anything is a useless mod beyond stock or the engineers would've put on the production vehicle by that definition. I simply asked if anyone has had experience with the JW carrier on the salt coast. Want to inform me on which oil brand I should use too? Do you know if 35's fit without rubbing?

I know your 32" spare should fit where it belongs without an overpriced tire carrier.

 

[mudwagon]

I know your 32" spare should fit where it belongs without an overpriced tire carrier.

not with the factory tow hitch it won't. Yeah I've contemplated removing it, but the one day I need 6k capacity over 5k...who knows. I guess I could sell the hitch for $1k nowadays, so maybe worth the trade.

 

[jiggletits]

not with the factory tow hitch it won't. Yeah I've contemplated removing it, but the one day I need 6k capacity over 5k...who knows. I guess I could sell the hitch for $1k nowadays, so maybe worth the trade.

I'd re-evaluate that. My 32's fit just fine, brand new tread, not worn down. w/6500lb hitch. There is ¼ on either side to spare.

 

[re_guderian]

I'd re-evaluate that. My 32's fit just fine, brand new tread, not worn down. w/6500lb hitch. There is ¼ on either side to spare.

You're driving a 460 w/ kdss? Or a 470? The limiting factor is front-back clearance on the 460, all of which have kdss.

 

[ericm979]

Here's what I have found in my research on fitting tires in the stock location on 460s: 31.7" is roughly the limit. There are production variations between vehicles. Most 265/70r17s are that diameter or smaller but some people have had them not fit. The big hitch can sometimes be loosened and slid back a few mm. There's a couple washers that stick out and can be ground down for a few mm more clearance. You can grind on the big hitch for a few more mm (at your peril/judgement of course). KDSS spacers can give you a little more clearance especially if the ride height is higher than stock. But keep in mind that lifted suspension can compress as far as stock and that the KDSS cylinder side will move up and down as the cylinder extends and compresses.

While rigs with external tire carriers look cool to me I don't want to deal with a carrier or with the gearing and speedo issues from tires significantly larger than stock, so I will go with a 31.7" tire.

 

[re_guderian]

Here's what I have found in my research on fitting tires in the stock location on 460s: 31.7" is roughly the limit. There are production variations between vehicles. Most 265/70r17s are that diameter or smaller but some people have had them not fit. The big hitch can sometimes be loosened and slid back a few mm. There's a couple washers that stick out and can be ground down for a few mm more clearance. You can grind on the big hitch for a few more mm (at your peril/judgement of course). KDSS spacers can give you a little more clearance especially if the ride height is higher than stock. But keep in mind that lifted suspension can compress as far as stock and that the KDSS cylinder side will move up and down as the cylinder extends and compresses.

While rigs with external tire carriers look cool to me I don't want to deal with a carrier or with the gearing and speedo issues from tires significantly larger than stock, so I will go with a 31.7" tire.

The other option that virtually no one considers is that these aren't Subarus, and they won't grenade the t-case if running a different sized spare. Everyone is throwing literally thousands of dollars at a non-issue...

 

[r2m]

I think @mudwagon was being facetious

 

[ericm979]

The other option that virtually no one considers is that these aren't Subarus, and they won't grenade the t-case if running a different sized spare. Everyone is throwing literally thousands of dollars at a non-issue...

The GX is my back road and off road exploring vehicle. I've had enough flats in out of the way places to prefer a spare that I can run many hundreds of miles on without worry.

 

[mudwagon]

The other option that virtually no one considers is that these aren't Subarus, and they won't grenade the t-case if running a different sized spare. Everyone is throwing literally thousands of dollars at a non-issue...

Well according to you a non-issue. I do 5 tire rotations which is recommended to do anyways. So if you do a 5 tire rotation your option is an issue, a rather large one. Plus you claim throwing $$ away, yet everyone's solution cost $$ so really everyone is throwing money away, just depends how much. My oem spare was a street tire, hell if you catch me on trails where I live with that as my spare. I already have big tires, I knew what I was getting into. I need to move the tire out of the vehicle cause I need more room which I didn't when I made my decision. If I can't figure it out I'm just going to get a 570 which can fit a 35 underneath so I can throw more money away for useless mods

 

[re_guderian]

Well according to you a non-issue. I do 5 tire rotations which is recommended to do anyways. So if you do a 5 tire rotation your option is an issue, a rather large one. Plus you claim throwing $$ away, yet everyone's solution cost $$ so really everyone is throwing money away, just depends how much. My oem spare was a street tire, hell if you catch me on trails where I live with that as my spare. I already have big tires, I knew what I was getting into. I need to move the tire out of the vehicle cause I need more room which I didn't when I made my decision. If I can't figure it out I'm just going to get a 570 which can fit a 35 underneath so I can throw more money away for useless mods

Your running 32's on 18" rims, not 36" Swampers. Put a 31.5" tire of any tread type you desire up under the rig and call it good. Four-tire rotations are also recommended as well. They work just as good, and cost exactly as much as five-tire rotations. If your options are spend two grand to fix a two hundred dollar problem (matching tread for slightly smaller spare), or purchase a $35-$100k rig to solve the problem (570), you're the perfect Lexus customer...

 

[Jstawgn]

The other option that virtually no one considers is that these aren't Subarus, and they won't grenade the t-case if running a different sized spare. Everyone is throwing literally thousands of dollars at a non-issue...

That is very true. I got rear swing out because I am working on aux tank. With no need for aux tank, mine would still be down there.

or purchase a $35-$100k rig to solve the problem (570), you're the perfect Lexus customer...

Or easier to become Jeep / Bronco customers. They don't have problem fitting large spare tire
BRONCO Raptor 37" tire stock and it came with full size spare.
Trail Recon wrangler stock are 35 stock and 37 fit with no lift.

 

[mudwagon]

I think both of you should go check out LX prices, you can get an 08-12 LX for the same price as a 460 and fit 37's on stock AHC suspension. Why waste thousands on modding a GX to be an LX. If I can't make more room in my GX I have no problem trading my GX evenly for an LX which I can do easily as I paid cash for my GX and would pay cash for an LX and wouldn't spend more than 25k doing so. Everyone spends their time making modifications without figuring out what the consequences are and if the vehicle can handle it and then pay thousands in reparations towards parts worn prematurely due to their modifications.

Anyways you shouldn't mismatch your spare regardless of "if it can work" because one day you're going to be much further from home and a trail fix isn't going to get you home. You're going to be stuck at some tire shop in no where paying $300+ to get a new tire if they have it in stock. Giving non-solutions to a question regarding a product review doesn't make your opinion matter any more than the first guy that chimed in. You still have to buy a new tire and the 5th tire I already have would go to waste, either way I'm spending money and in the end I have a s*** solution to my problem. Moving the tire outside of the undercarriage or taking the tow hitch off and testing fitment is really my two options, there is no other option because they are inferior to my two proposed solutions. You can argue about it all you want, but the fact is that the proposed solution isn't going to work to get me home when I frequently go on 3k+ mile roadtrips. Every tire carrier is $1k+ at this point and I would pay that if it was a proper solution, nearly every bumper is 2+ step process I'm not interested in and the only 1 that isn't is $3k+ vs JW $1k solution. But JW has s*** powdercoating so I need to know if anyone has used it on east coast salt belt, but it sounds like I had my answer before I asked. Just had to get 2 pages of opinions in with no real answers first...And people wonder why these forums are a dying breed lol.

 

[r2m]

I think both of you should go check out LX prices, you can get an 08-12 LX for the same price as a 460 and fit 37's on stock AHC suspension. Why waste thousands on modding a GX to be an LX. If I can't make more room in my GX I have no problem trading my GX evenly for an LX which I can do easily as I paid cash for my GX and would pay cash for an LX and wouldn't spend more than 25k doing so. Everyone spends their time making modifications without figuring out what the consequences are and if the vehicle can handle it and then pay thousands in reparations towards parts worn prematurely due to their modifications.

I too would LOVE an LX, but the biggest issue, and I do mean pun intended, is there size. For much of the off roading we do here in the west (can't speak to all you east coasters, but the GX is the perfect size for trails. Wheeling a LX, guaranteed you'll be buckling body panels on trees, rocks ruts, etc. It's tooooo long and tooooo wide.
Remember that most trails were worked from the early jeep community (late 1940's - 50's?), back when the old WWII flat fender jeeps were being bought up for off roading. When they were off roading, they only made the trails as wide as they needed to past an obstacle.
But as Jeeps became larger, trails have become wider too, but even now, most trails will not tolerate a full sized truck or 200 series LX/Landcruiser. Thus the GX and 4Runners are the perfect trail size.
If I only wanted it for fire trails and road trips, I'd probably be all in on a 200 series LX (or more likely same series LC). Love them!

 

[skey44]

I almost spent $1k plus for a swing out rear tire carrier but have not been off roading much in the last year and I’m glad I didn’t spring for the permanent swing out or a swing hitch, the side swing door is annoying enough as it is.

This is obviously a one off case and yes possibly there was some long term damage I’m not aware of but I did use the 265/65r18 spare for a minute. Granted my issues did not occur off road or far from home but I did drive a hundred or so miles on it while I was awaiting a replacement tire.


I plan to switch to 265/70r 17 when the current 285/70r17 wear out and have no worries about the spare size “issue”. This will achieve a darn near perfect match to the spare I currently have and put me back into a better gear range for 99% road based adventures.

 

[BigSwede]

I think both of you should go check out LX prices, you can get an 08-12 LX for the same price as a 460 and fit 37's on stock AHC suspension. Why waste thousands on modding a GX to be an LX. If I can't make more room in my GX I have no problem trading my GX evenly for an LX which I can do easily as I paid cash for my GX and would pay cash for an LX and wouldn't spend more than 25k doing so.

I got in a LX570 at the dealership, and was surprised to find that it had quite a bit less headroom than the GX, such that my hair was brushing the ceiling even with the seat all the way down.

Most people aren’t as headroom-challenged as I am, but it turns out that the GX is a better fit for me, inside as well as outside.

 

[re_guderian]

I got in a LX570 at the dealership, and was surprised to find that it had quite a bit less headroom than the GX, such that my hair was brushing the ceiling even with the seat all the way down.

Most people aren’t as headroom-challenged as I am, but it turns out that the GX is a better fit for me, inside as well as outside.

At 6'4", I'm in the same boat.

 

[tbisaacs]

I too would LOVE an LX, but the biggest issue, and I do mean pun intended, is there size. For much of the off roading we do here in the west (can't speak to all you east coasters, but the GX is the perfect size for trails. Wheeling a LX, guaranteed you'll be buckling body panels on trees, rocks ruts, etc. It's tooooo long and tooooo wide.
Remember that most trails were worked from the early jeep community (late 1940's - 50's?), back when the old WWII flat fender jeeps were being bought up for off roading. When they were off roading, they only made the trails as wide as they needed to past an obstacle.
But as Jeeps became larger, trails have become wider too, but even now, most trails will not tolerate a full sized truck or 200 series LX/Landcruiser. Thus the GX and 4Runners are the perfect trail size.
If I only wanted it for fire trails and road trips, I'd probably be all in on a 200 series LX (or more likely same series LC). Love them!

Seattle checking in. She mostly fits anywhere

And concur to poster above, 35s are basically bolt on with the 570