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I think the ownership timeframe matters a lot in this context. Most Lexus buyers lease them, so it may not matter. As to most Escalade buyers. If you plan to own it instead of rent, it's a different decision.
Escalade in particular and Denali less so are the ultimate pumpkin carriage vehicle. They seem to have about a 5 year life where they are desirable status symbols and then they near instantly flip to ghetto cruiser with cheap aftermarket wheels, bald off-brand tires, and for sale on a BHPH lot. Plenty of nice cars end up there, but there's usually a transition from luxury perception to junk and the Escalade seems to make that jump faster than any other vehicle I can think of. There's no in-between period.
The LX or GX will slowly fade from luxury SUV to utility truck or offroad toy. A 15 or 20yr old LX or GX still feels at home in a luxury community where a 15yr old Cadillac will get the police called. I'm not sure what the driving factor is. Does the vehicle deteriorate so quickly? If you go drive a new one today it feels exceptional, but you look at a 2010 Escalade vs 2010 LX570. It's kinda remarkable in its own way how differently the two age. I tossed in a 2010 QX just for fun. Also hasn't aged very well from that era IMO.
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And that is the essence of why Toyotas are the rigs to buy. Not the initial cost, not the performance, and certainly not the MPG. It's how they hold up 10, 15, or even 25+ years in when the domestics have long since been crushed and melted into Chinese-made patio furniture.
You should update your post to include a clapped out 2011 Navigatior.
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Japanese built for me, the 10 speeds in all of the GM products are horrible, cylinder shut off makes no sense, both ford and GM are throw aways at 100,000 miles….Toyota has had it own share of problems lately with engines and production numbers and other recalls…..I want a V8 and the warranty is unbelievable.
Since this thread has already deviated plenty, I'll add that checking values of 2021 Sequoia TRD Pros today with the big old dumb V8 like I have would have me making money on the truck selling it 3 years later from buying new. Nothing I would replace it with, which is why I'm keeping it but it is insane how much some Toyotas hold value over time.
I was in a work meeting yesterday and sustainability and circular economy practices came up. It occurred to me that one of the more sustainable things we can do is make less cheap, throwaway crap that only lasts a few years before getting junked. That's most domestic rigs and just about anything one buys on Amazon.
Toyota nailed it either the older rigs. My 17 year old GX is dead reliable, is maybe halfway through it's life, capable off road, and turns heads everywhere I take it, despite being made the same year the first iPhone came out.
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I will have to be pretty impressed by the QX 80 before I let go of my ‘13 LX
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Update, the ‘23 QX 80 Sensory was very nice, it’s just not a Lexus…..I will be ordering a Nori Green GX 550 Premium+ this Saturday…really don’t care how long it takes to get, my LX is still a fine ride.
And your LX also has the best front end they made on the entire LX series IMO
What about a 2016 to 2021 LX570 with a few upgrades starting of a CBI bumper making the grill look much more balanced? That checks all boxes of size, comfort, capability and durability. It does use more fuel of course, but the up class experience goes with it. The infotainment can be changed to a touch screen and carplay capable setup. While I like my 2021 LC200 a lot including its classic Toyota looks, this has been growing on me a lot. If my wife does not want to build our LC200 any further, I may go this route as second vehicle when the 2014 BMW 535d starts having serious issues. It just has not so I am in the waiting room for now...
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Ok how or what do u use to make the ‘17-21 screen a touch screen, honestly that’s why I have been avoiding that truck, the infotainment system is next level frustrating…..thank you in advance for your help!
This is what I saw the other day. Have no experience with them. If this does not work I would be happy myself with carplay upgrade and using the Lexus mouse and enjoy all the rest the latest LX570 has to offer, but that may be make or break for some.
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Install of another type which does require the LX570 mouse
LX570 Cheapest Carplay AndroidAuto Upgrade - Installation - Review - Tips - Tricks Mistakes Apple - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-a_9a6uviU
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Install of another type which does require the LX570 mouse
LX570 Cheapest Carplay AndroidAuto Upgrade - Installation - Review - Tips - Tricks Mistakes Apple - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-a_9a6uviU
There is no simple way to do that.
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I have a great stereo install company that can give me Apple car play, but not a touch screen, $800 installed
Yes, because the screen itself isn't a touch screen. You can add Apple car play because that is changing computers behind the scenes. In addition, the screen itself is physically too far from the driver to be comfortable to use as a touch screen.
I had a touch screen in my 2013 Land Cruiser. I now have the stock LX 570 mouse thingy. It's certainly not great but it actually isn't bad either.
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You would indeed have to have real long arms and short legs to access it without reaching forward. The OEM mouse is probably annoying but easy to get used to.
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So this is my basic shape, so I should be fine with a touch screen!
For me - I kinda struggle with the question of why? Builds like are hard for me to make sense of outside of marketing exercises. For a lexus display at SEMA - sure, gets attention. Big hit at overland expo. For real world use - I'm just not sure what it does well. I'm not sure I'm understanding what the use case is that couldn't be done better with a different vehicle. I like the 200 platform in general. But in this case it seems like a GX550 with 35s would end up being better on the street and the trails with almost no effort and probably a lot less $.
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It is a matter of taste and likes, as a 2016 to 2021 LX570 with say less than 60k miles is $$$ wise quite competitive with a GX550. My assumption is that you would be able to self install front and rear bumpers and skids and get 34s or 35s without lifting/replacing the factory suspension. Then it is bigger inside and a class up from the Prado/GX series.
I can see we just have to agree to disagree on this one. Nice we have choices.
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