For those who let their dogs loose in vehicles - cautionary tale (1 Viewer)

[LINUS]

Driver: Dog caused crash that killed girlfriend

I’ve got a boxer (so knowing the hyper nature of them, mine is harnessed) - but this story sounds like a real tragedy.

The GF was unbelted in the seat calming one of the ~3 dogs they had in the vehicle.

We can debate better/best ways of restraining later - I just hope we can learn from his loose dogs that ultimately made a fatal single vehicle accident.

This is an issue as a ton of us LC folks carry mid/large breed dogs on the regular.

 

[4mydogs]

 

[73fj40lc]

Too sad but a good lesson to learn from.

 

[NMC_EXP]

I can understand why a sedentary person who lives alone, with little interaction with family and friends would want a dog for companionship.

I do not understand why active people who have a spouse, children, extended family and friends to interact with want or need a dog.

It looks to me like they are fashion accessories or lawn ornaments or simply a case of "I've got to have one because everyone else does."

 

[MANUCHAO]

I do not understand why active people who have a spouse, children, extended family and friends to interact with want or need a dog.

I grew up with dogs, and my life as a kid was, and is better for it, and more fun too...
Now that I'm older i still love me pooches, and want the same for my kiddo....

If you care to read here is an article on the benefits of living with a dog....

Sad to see you view them (dogs) as such.....

Pooches rock...

RE: OP article....
The driver/ passenger should have known better..... ridiculous that the driver blames it on the dog.....

 

[gnob]

People should be required to succeed at raising dogs before being allowed to raise children.

I can understand why a sedentary person who lives alone, with little interaction with family and friends would want a dog for companionship.

I do not understand why active people who have a spouse, children, extended family and friends to interact with want or need a dog.

It looks to me like they are fashion accessories or lawn ornaments or simply a case of "I've got to have one because everyone else does."

 

[Weedhopper]

Probably good advise since my brother and wife sent a rescue dog back to the pound/ breeder when they had a little bit of trouble with it.

Try that with a kid.

 

[NMC_EXP]

People should be required to succeed at raising dogs before being allowed to raise children.

In my opinion about 95% of dog owners are absolute failures at training a dumb animal. In fact in most cases it seems the dogs train the human - example being for the human to tune out and ignore non stop barking by his animal.

Yet you figure that makes them qualified to raise and train a human being.

I don't get it.

 

[NMC_EXP]

I grew up with dogs, and my life as a kid was, and is better for it, and more fun too...

I'm 67 yoa. I grew up with dogs, so my question does not come from lack of experience. Dog ownership was common in middle class suburbia where I grew up and in the rural agricultural area where I spent many summers.

The majority had one dog, a very few had two and the dogs stayed at the house. The big change I observed over the years is the trend is to take the dog(s) everywhere they go. I consider myself lucky when I visit the hardware store or Tractor Supply and I'm not tangled up in or tripped by a dog on a 12 ft leash that is in one aisle and the owner is in the adjacent aisle.

Taking dogs to stores - I don't get that.

Great Sand Dunes Natl Park went "dog friendly" a few years ago. Last two times I was there the place was carpeted with dog crap. Same story at many, maybe most of the developed and even primitive camp sites I visit.

Why does a person need a dog for entertainment at a world class outdoor recreation area? I don't get it. I do get the part about not cleaning up after the animal - just basic lazy slobs.

In July I was at four day long regional championship rifle tournament. Starting day 1 during every break one guy let a half grown black lab run loose. Day two the person on the firing point adjacent to mine got his two dogs out of the truck (they barked while in the truck) and tied them up until firing re-commenced. Day 3 he turned them loose. I was coming back from hanging a new target and this guys young but full grown St Bernard is having a mock fight with the black lab on my firing point while he sat there grinning. On my firing point 3 feet away from the dog fight was a spotting telescope worth $1000 and a rifle scope worth $1200. The rifle was even worth more.

When I explained to him what a bad Idea it was to allow this guy got defensive with me. He displayed a monumental sense of entitlement about taking his dogs to a four day shooting match and turning them loose there. So I filed a formal protest with the match director and the dogs stayed in the vehicles.....and barked.

Again, I do not get it. Dogs on a rifle range with 50 competitors blazing away.

The dog thing and the sense of entitlement that goes with it reminds me of cell phone addiction. It ain't right.

Here I will insert the obligitory (but sincere) disclaimer that some dog owners really like and/or need to have a dog around. And they train the dog so it knows how to behave.

My opinions are aimed at the 95%'ers who have no business owning a dog.

 

[gnob]

In your rants, you missed the key word "succeed".

What i said was, "people should be sterilized until they have proven their worth".

We could split hairs but your initial blanket statement was weak. Fact is most humans shouldn't be allowed to breath.

In my opinion about 95% of dog owners are absolute failures at training a dumb animal. In fact in most cases it seems the dogs train the human - example being for the human to tune out and ignore non stop barking by his animal.

Yet you figure that makes them qualified to raise and train a human being.

I don't get it.

 

[toyotaspeed90]

As for the article - there are some odd inconsistencies. GF was trying to calm down the dog that jumped in the drivers lap, yet wasn't belted in? How about this is more of a cautionary tale to wear a seatbelt...

I can understand why a sedentary person who lives alone, with little interaction with family and friends would want a dog for companionship.

I do not understand why active people who have a spouse, children, extended family and friends to interact with want or need a dog.

It looks to me like they are fashion accessories or lawn ornaments or simply a case of "I've got to have one because everyone else does."

You're a moron.

 

[NMC_EXP]

You're a moron.

Why?

Try to be specific.

 

[toyotaspeed90]

Why?

Try to be specific.

You question why someone who has a companion/family would want/seek companionship in a dog.

Do you have a mom and dad? Any siblings? A loved one, fiance, spouse? How about kids? More than one?

If you have parents still, and siblings, why would they want more kids? If you have older siblings then why are you alive? Wasn't your older siblings companionship enough for them not to need you (or younger siblings if you have any)?

Suggesting that individuals or families don't want more companionship for close loved family members simply because they have companionship with at least one other is ridiculous.

 

[NMC_EXP]

Suggesting that individuals or families don't want more companionship for close loved family members simply because they have companionship with at least one other is ridiculous.

For a person with human companionship, why is animal companionship desperately needed? I say desperate because it seems they cannot stand to be separated from the animal long enough to go to run errands. Or they buy a fake service animal harness and take the dog to restaurants and commercial aircraft.

What is the cause of the apparent emotional void?

 

[toyotaspeed90]

There's a difference between that latest comment and what you initially posted.

However it seems you still don't get it.

Do you, by chance, have cats?

 

[JohnVee]

What a clusterfuck this thread turned into. My dogs have always been more upset in the car from going to the vet than any other trips we've taken (one specific vet that we stopped seeing years ago, but they're still cautious because they're not stupid). They always know the vet route, regardless of the vehicle we take or the time of day.

And, yeah..."succeed at raising dogs" before spewing your spawn onto society should be a requirement for humanity.

But I'll agree with the comment about the asshats who think they can bring their flea bag pooch anywhere they want because they have some "certificate". Pro tip: Carry a latex/nitrile glove so you can bring the owner back the **s***** that their beast leaves in the aisle of the store.

Some dip**** recently tried to bring a 'companion peacock' onto an airplane. Then they got pissed when they were turned away. WTF? I love my animals but I know not everybody else does. There ARE acceptable limits in society.