Fitting a Big Fat Spare

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Got a set of 33" AT tires, along with matching spare, in size 305/55/20 Falken Wildpeak A/T3W. The manufacturer specs these as 33.2" tall and 12.3" wide. From my previous search, I knew these would fit. Not a lot of pictures or discussion on this so here's some for those tackling this for the future. Also, there's not many people on the boards running this wide of tire, so here's some consideration for that.

Overall diameter - the 200-series can accommodate a pretty darn big tire in its bum. Like I said, mine is 33.2 and fits just fine at normal inflation pressure. If someone really wanted to push this further, I imagine a 33.5", with some more effort, can be squeezed in. The constraint would be the forward panhard bar. I still had just a bit over 1" of clearance, but I have to imagine there should be some room left for flexing.

Width - if you look at the stock spare, it's already peaking out a bit. A 305 is technically 20mm wider still so it will hang that much lower. That said, there's a couple slight mods to help it tuck up there just a bit more. Not a lot, but ~3/8" more. Nearest the rear bumper is not really adjustable, as the stops are welded into the frame.

Mods:
1) First mod is to remove the stop at the frame right behind the diff (2x 12mm bolts). This will help accommodate taller tires, and a wider one sit up a tad more. The frame itself still has an angled stop underneath (as pictured) which is sufficient for a 33" tire to rest on.

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2) There is a wide stamped metal carrier that the pulley and tire rest on. This can be raised up ~3/8" of an inch by shimming 4 bolt positions (12mm, two at each side). I used large nuts as shims.
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It does hang lower by ~1/2, but still no lower than the muffler. So it's a nice whoopee cushion. The rear most part of the structure that supports the spare is well tied in to the frame and beefy if it ever came to that. I personally like a full size spare, though a narrower spare is certainly an option.

I squatted and up'd the brightness to get this pic, so it's more exaggerated than in person.

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Does it hang lower than your rear diff?
 
Nope. It was close to being as low as the diff prior to the mod, but taking out that forward angled stop raised the leading edge at least an inch since it was resting on the highest part prior.

The stock tire width was 11.7". This 305 is 12.3". The rear part of the tire does rest probably .5" lower since there's not much adjustment there. But then again, 33's lift the truck 1" so I still have overall more clearance.

There is definitely more I can do to stuff it up more if I were to bust out the grinder and welder, to the forward stop and re-hang the rear of the cage. But I'm happy with the way it is.
 
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I personally like a full size spare, though a narrower spare is certainly an option.


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Full size spare is the way to go on these trucks, so you can put it in the 5 tire rotation and make sure you can rely on the spare when you need it.
 
Thanks for the info. Really helpful. I'm about to put Toyo R/T 295/70/17's on my '08 LC after lifting. They're supposedly 33.3" tall. Based on your post, I'm thinking one will fit in the spare spot.
 
Thanks for the info. Really helpful. I'm about to put Toyo R/T 295/70/17's on my '08 LC after lifting. They're supposedly 33.3" tall. Based on your post, I'm thinking one will fit in the spare spot.
I have a STT Pro in the same 295/70r17 that's said to be 33.5" tall. It fits in the spare area just fine with no modifications.
 
285 75 17 will fit with no problems or modifications
 
Will 285/75 18 fit too?
 
295/70 18 will barely fit.
I doubt a 285/75 will clear the track bar.
It might come down to the particular brand of tire and exactly how tall it is. Only way to know would be to try to stuff it in there.
 
Resurrecting an old thread BUT for prosperity's sake and since this is the most related thread, I fitted a 285/75R18 Kenda Klever R/T in the spare area without any modification other than deflating it to about 18 PSI. I didn't test drive it so I don't know how the suspension would react as the tire wash pushed tight against the panhard but it could damage the tire and restrict the panhard from moving (maybe just slow or dampen the movement).

Tight against the back of the hitch.
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Against the panhard bar
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Bracket is still in:
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@dubyahard to get the tire off the panhard bar, you could try a ratchet strap around the circumference of the tire. You may be able to get the deflated tire tread to compress inward just enough to give you some clearance.
 
Resurrecting an old thread BUT for prosperity's sake and since this is the most related thread, I fitted a 285/75R18 Kenda Klever R/T in the spare area without any modification other than deflating it to about 18 PSI. I didn't test drive it so I don't know how the suspension would react as the tire wash pushed tight against the panhard but it could damage the tire and restrict the panhard from moving (maybe just slow or dampen the movement).

Tight against the back of the hitch.
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Against the panhard bar
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Bracket is still in:
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Had forgotten about this thread but thanks for expanding on what we know will fit.

Looked up your tire and the manufacturer specs it at a full 35.0" in diameter. Nice!

Tire SizeOverall DiameterSection Width
T285/75R183511.46
 
To add, I've since upsized my tires to Toyo AT3 35x12.5R20 (specs 34.5"x12.5") tires. A complexity is that I have the LRA 12.5 aux tank that pushes the spare tire down 1".

For those reasons, I've opted for a narrower and incrementally smaller 275/65R20LT (specs 34.1"x11") spare. Importantly, the smaller spare is still a full performance spare that I expect can be used indefinitely with no issue for a trip. Just not matching in size.

I had posted this in my build thread:

Spare tire

I won't go down the path of rear swingouts for several reasons. So I need to maintain a workable spare. I continue to be amazed at what the 200-series can fit.

My situation is a bit unique in that I have a 12.5 gallon LRA aux tank in the boot. This pushes down the spare by 1". I wasn't happy with how far my previous 33.2" x 12.3" tire hung down in combination with the subtank.

Ideally, I would have a matching spare as I did with 33s, but because of diameter and width concerns, led me to use a non-matching skinny - 275/65R20LT, specs 34.1"x11". Versus 34.5"x12.5" for the full fat 35x12.5 tires. The spare is still a full performance tire, so in the off chance I need it, I can still continue on whatever trip without concern. Those without a tank can get additional width accommodations by removing the bracket on the leading edge, and bending the tube bracket upwards, that comes off the rearmost frame member.

Diameter concerns to the 4x4 system shouldn't be an issue as they're close enough - 609 to 602 revs per mile, or about 1% diff. Whatever difference could easily be made up for in inflation pressure.

Fit in the boot is tight, but good enough. This pic is with the suspension in full droop, so there is the possibility of contact with the panhard bar on extreme compression. I'll check later but I think it'll fit with clearance.

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Diameter comparison. Hard pressed to tell which tire is the shorter (hint: far right)
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Spare in place
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Judging by your rear lower control arm angle from your picture. On suspension compression you probably wont have issues with the panhard bar. On droop you may have some issues. See what happens if you let the axle droop out some more.
 
Judging by your rear lower control arm angle from your picture. On suspension compression you probably wont have issues with the panhard bar. On droop you may have some issues. See what happens if you let the axle droop out some more.
It's probably higher than normal in that pic because I had the jackstand under the axle, just inside of the lower shock mount.

I think I'll buy a cheap, used, spare and then ratchet it underneath. That way, I won't feel too bad if there is long term damage. Just have to figure out what to do about the low pressure alert.
 
I don't have a full size spare either, 285/75r17 ~34".
 
What's the confirmed biggest size that fits under the 200 series with the OEM hitch? I have a 275/70/18 (33.2x10.8x18) under mine right now and I'd like to move up to a 285/70/18 (33.7x11.2x18) after the lift. If I move over to 17" wheels I'd like to run a 285/75/17 (33.8x11.2x18) or possibly a 34x10.5x17 and still keep the spare underneath if at all possible. Sticking with a traditionally smaller BFG tire might help!?
 
@Tex68w LT285/70r18 and Lt285/75r17 will fit with no issue. I am able to fit the Yokohama MT G003 in size LT285/70r18 underneath. It measures 34” off the truck. Tight fit but tucks up without interfering with the panhard bar.
 
I don't have a full size spare either, 285/75r17 ~34".
There are more tire options in that size, but not a lot of low cost 17" 5x150 wheel options.
 

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