Fed up with and oily front axle....! (1 Viewer)

[Joshua993]

Anyone here running a remote oil filter location in their 62'? IMHO, the configuration the oil filter on the 3FE is at or near the top of the Not-thought-through list, at least so far as filter changes are concerned.

Back to the original question - remote oil filter anyone?

 

[Eldorado556]

I toss a disposable tablecloth from the dollar store over my axle and have a pan underneath the filter.

My Tacoma had one of those impossible to reach filter so I added a relocation kit from Perma Cool. It used the same size filter as the FJ60. I'd have to check but the kit will probably fit the 60 as well.

 

[ntsqd]

Avoid any kit that uses hose clamps. The hose fittings used in those kits are junk, so is likely the hose. Can buy the adapter and filter pad separately and use Push-Lok fittings and Aeroquip FC 332 hose for a far, far more robust and reliable system.

 

[BG_TX]

The night before an oil change I tap a hole in the filter with a screw driver and let it drain overnight while I'm snoozing. The next morning the filter is fully drained and no spills/drips when removing...

 

[2mbb]

The night before an oil change I tap a hole in the filter with a screw driver and let it drain overnight while I'm snoozing. The next morning the filter is fully drained and no spills/drips when removing...

I've had good success with this method on my 2F, but punching the hole before I remove the oil drain plug. I putz around in the garage for 20 or 30 minutes letting the pan drain, and by that time, most of the oil has drained out of the filter. The only challenge has been finding the right tool. I've lately been using a long flat blade screwdriver with a broken tip.

I used to balance a metal bowl on top of the axle to catch the drippings, but most of the time I would either miss the bowl, or spill the bowl trying to get if off the axle.

 

[Randy88FJ62]

I know rockdoc runs an additional filter on his truck. That's the closest thing I know to a remote oil filter.

 

[Rigger]

The night before an oil change I tap a hole in the filter with a screw driver and let it drain overnight while I'm snoozing. The next morning the filter is fully drained and no spills/drips when removing...

X2

This is what I do, but not the overnight thing. I let it drain for an hour or so. It is amazing how well this works.

Knowing my luck, if I let it drain overnight, I'd forget, and in the morning, I'd head out to go somewhere, and make a major mess!

 

[slcfj62]

Yep, poke a hole with a nail in the end of the filter. I do that with filters that point down as well. Do it with the oil hot, and it only takes 15 or 20 minutes for enough oil to drain out of the filter that the mess is minimized. If you poke the hole the night before, leave a note for yourself on the drivers seat as a reminder.

 

[nuclearlemon]

chunk of cardboard, or a company called pig makes a plastic type sheet for that purpose.

 

[RockDoc]

Here's what Randy is refering to:

https://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/191368-amsoil-remote-oil-filter-mount-good-idea.html

I pulled it while the new engine broke in, but am ready to put it back in in a new location (2nd battery going where it was). If you just want single filter, I think Jegs and Summit have some, you want one that works with a PH8A Fram filter (Ford, and others?). If you have the space, you can run a huge filter, I run a Napa 1773 as the primary filter now, 7" tall and 4" diameter.

 

[Heartworm]

Poking a hole works! I usually do it 1/2 to 1 hour prior to the oil change and leave the hood up so that I do not forget! I also put a rag around the base of the filter. I felt the same way as you about the design until I read on this board that the upright location helps protect the oil filter from from getting damaged by a stick or rock during off road situation.

 

[Joshua993]

Here's what Randy is refering to:

https://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/191368-amsoil-remote-oil-filter-mount-good-idea.html

I pulled it while the new engine broke in, but am ready to put it back in in a new location (2nd battery going where it was). If you just want single filter, I think Jegs and Summit have some, you want one that works with a PH8A Fram filter (Ford, and others?). If you have the space, you can run a huge filter, I run a Napa 1773 as the primary filter now, 7" tall and 4" diameter.

That is a big filter....

Thanks for all the input. Poking a hole - it never occurred to me! When I bought this truck (my first cruiser), I thought the oil cooler was and had been leaking forever, and the PO just ignored it and didn"t tell me about it - then I changed the oil...oh. I too put a cheap drop cloth to keep my floor clean.

I keep thinking I need to just bite the bullet and do a swap, but the ole 3FE just keeps going. I did a BG oil treatment last week, and noticed an instant difference in response and MPG - I got 13.8 (not accounting for the 31" tires) on the hiway with the A/C on. So I think I will keep her as is for a bit, and just do some mods, like the filter move.
Thanks again - gotta love the mud forums!

 

[fj80toyman]

I did a BG oil treatment last week, and noticed an instant difference in response and MPG - I got 13.8 (not accounting for the 31" tires) on the hiway with the A/C on.

...what is this "BG oil treatment" of which you speak?

I'd like to get 13+ on mine too!

Is it a hijack if the OP brought it in?

Earl's has all the hardware to remote mount your oil filter and they will make you good quality hoses to fit.

Oil Filter Adapters - Earl s Performance - SummitRacing.com




Thanks, Dan.

 

[Joshua993]

BG Products, part no 109. It's an additive. Basically, you get the engine to operating temp - pour this stuff in the top of the motor. I pulled the PTO throttle out to about 1500 rpm and let it run for 10 mins. I changed the oil filter - used a Fram, what ever was cheap - and ran it another 10 mins, then changed the oil. To preface this, I used Rislone in the 2 previous oil changes, which were only 800 miles apart to loosen up some of the crud in the engine.
I am not a big proponent of additives - Sea Foam and the like, but this BG 109 definately worked as advertised. It is billed as a Compression Performance Restoration, for what thats worth. I am curious to see how the oil looks at the next change - it was thick and black after running the treatment through. That is why I changed the filter - I didn't want the the filter backing up, going into bypass and making things worse...
So, that is my experience.

 

[fj80toyman]

Good info, thank you. I'm sure the '62 would benefit from a good internal roto-rooter.


I don't remember seeing BG Products here in Kalifornia, may be contraband!

I'll check.

 

[ntsqd]

Yep, poke a hole with a nail in the end of the filter. I do that with filters that point down as well. Do it with the oil hot, and it only takes 15 or 20 minutes for enough oil to drain out of the filter that the mess is minimized. If you poke the hole the night before, leave a note for yourself on the drivers seat as a reminder.

When ever I leave something loose/open/off that could cause major damage to the engine by forgetful running of it I pull and ground the coil wire. Then it won't start.

BG products are around in KA, but not all that common.

This type of oil filter pad is a die casting:

They work, but they tend to be a little fragile. I prefer to use the slightly more expensive, but much more robust Mocal sand cast parts:

Pegasus - Remote Filter Head with Gauge Port, Left-to-Right Flow
There is an opposite flow direction version too:
Pegasus - Remote Filter Head with Gauge Port, Right-to-Left Flow
I'm too cheep to go with the billet parts, and I'm not in favor of the drilled sharp 90* ports that most of those have.

 

[imnewtolandcruisers]

I get 13.8 in city driving with full A/C blasting in arizona here alot of stop and go....I got street tires though that can contribute alot instead of off road tires for daily driving.

 

[Joshua993]

I get 13.8 in city driving with full A/C blasting in arizona here alot of stop and go....I got street tires though that can contribute alot instead of off road tires for daily driving.

Now I just feel silly...lol. I think if I did the calcs for the 31" tires, my mileage would be a little different - but I was feeling good about 10 on the hiway with A/C before...