Electrical Help - gremlin after trailer wiring adapter failed

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Got a problem here. Sorry for the novel.

Two weeks ago we took a small road trip. Along the way, I noticed that the gauge lights (speedo, tach, etc.) were out. When we got there I shut off the truck. Then came out later and found that I couldn't shift out of park. A quick mud search brought up the bit about the shifter interlock being on the brake light circuit - sure enough, the 10A brake light fuse is blown. Replaced that, bought a few spares, and we're on our way again. But with a few issues...

- several warning lights (A/T oil temp, brake, oil level, and the red square one by the ammeter) come on together at random intervals - tapping the brake makes them go off

- gauge lights still off

- D indicator and clock dim significantly with left blinker, brake or hazard lights

And then about 3 hours into the return trip, the truck died at 70 MPH on the interstate. That was more excitement then I really needed. This was a complete electrical system shutdown as far as I can tell - clock and radio presets were gone, though it didn't run rough like it sometimes does when the ECU has to re-learn things. Once I got it stopped on the shoulder, it started up like nothing happened. Then the same thing happened on a side street a few minutes later. Started again, and drove the remaining 15 minutes home.

So last weekend I dug into it, suspecting the left rear wiring harness somehow. Lots of additional weird stuff going on as I troubleshoot - at one point the shift interlock enagaged/disengaged with the flashing of the left turn signal/hazards and the 15A tail light fuse blew along with another event that reset the radio and clock again. Eventually figured out that most of the weird stuff went away if I disconnected the trailer wiring harness adapter. It's marked "Hoppy" and is something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Hopkins-LiteMate-Vehicle-1991-1998-1996-1998/dp/B000JKCSX8/?tag=ihco-20

I've driven about 40 miles since then. No more lights dimming when i apply turn signal/hazards/brakes, no more blown fuses, shutdowns, etc. But the gauge lights are still out, and the set of warning lights described above still come on and off together at random intervals - though touching the brakes no longer causes them to turn off. Happened probably 6 times on my 20 mile commute this morning.

So ... any ideas? Did the trailer adaptor failure feed excess current back into something else and cause additional damage?

More information that may be relevant - back at the end of march we did a big trip out to Utah & Canyonlands towing an offroad camp trailer - I think it was about 1500 miles total, several days of offroad, one water crossing with water up to about the rocker panels, lots of deep snow and mud at one point - pulled the winch out once. And an extended pressure washing session when we got back to clean things up. Trailer is wired with LED side markers and tail lights. The road trip where all the problems started was the first significant use after this trip, though I did drive it around town and such a few times. I'm running dual batteries with a Hellroaring controller and a 130A Tundra alternator.

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This sounds like several problems to me.
The complete shutdown is likely not related to the trailer harness. That sounds like a loose/bad connection at the battery, possible fusible links going intermittent, or the alternator/charging circuit is faulty. That explains the multiple dash warning lights.
If the alternator was faulty and you were running on battery power, the battery would eventually deplete and the truck would shut down.

Dash illumination is off of the TAIL LAMP circuit. If the Hoppy harness went south, chances are the tail lamp fuse is gone.
 
Thanks for the ideas

I did check the battery connections and they felt solid. I replaced the primary battery just before the Utah trip. I'll wiggle the fusible links and see if I can make anything happen. Have a spare set I could swap in also. One of the resets occurred with the engine off while I was troubleshooting - the only thing I did was mess around with the wiring harness in the back of the truck - shouldn't have impacted a dodgy fusible link I think.

The tail lamp fuse did blow during troubleshooting, but it was intact when I first noticed the gauge lights out and it's intact now - tail lights work.

According to the ammeter and the dual battery controller, my charging circuit is working. I'll check it out though.

Seems like long odds for two unrelated electrical failures to come up at once.
 
have you looked at the harness by the EGR tube ? funky things happen when the heat eats into it
 
have you looked at the harness by the EGR tube ? funky things happen when the heat eats into it

Yea, I'm familiar with that issue. About 2 years ago I wrapped the egr pipe there with an insulating header wrap, and wrapped the harness with an insulating & reflective material. Also tied the harness back away from it with a stainless steel cable tie. So I should be good, but I'll take a look.
 
More weirdness. Lights came on 4 times on the way home from work. I watched the ammeter pretty closely and never saw a hiccup.

Got home and had my son watch the dash while I opened the hood and wiggled the connections around the battery, fusible links, etc. No lights.

But the positive terminal on the battery and the surrounding wires were to hot to touch!? Drive home was about 25 miles/45 minutes, temps in the 50s. Truck temp gauge was fine.
 
...But the positive terminal on the battery and the surrounding wires were to hot to touch!? Drive home was about 25 miles/45 minutes, temps in the 50s. Truck temp gauge was fine.

This indicates a poor (= high resistance) connection at the battery. Remove the positive terminal, use one of those battery terminal wire brushes to clean the connections on both the battery side and the terminal side. Also clean and check the connection where the fusible links connect to the battery terminal.

P.S. Is that the Dirty Devil you're crossing in the photo in post #1? 'Cause I think I know that spot.
 
Got my IR thermometer out. Temp at the terminal was about 120F. After idling 20 minutes with the hood up it was about 190F

Post on the 2nd battery, cable and controller weren't hot at all, so I don't think it's that. But something must be drawing a lot of current to get that hot - why isn't it blowing fuses/fusible links?
 
This indicates a poor (= high resistance) connection at the battery. Remove the positive terminal, use one of those battery terminal wire brushes to clean the connections on both the battery side and the terminal side. Also clean and check the connection where the fusible links connect to the battery terminal.

P.S. Is that the Dirty Devil you're crossing in the photo in post #1? 'Cause I think I know that spot.

Yea, that's the Dirty Devil on the west side of Canyonlands.

Seems strange to have a bad connection on a brand new battery. Cleaned the clamp then also. But I'll give it a try.
 
Yea, that's the Dirty Devil on the west side of Canyonlands.

Seems strange to have a bad connection on a brand new battery. Cleaned the clamp then also. But I'll give it a try.

It's certainly conceivable that the bad connection at the battery terminal is inside the battery (i.e., a defective battery). It heated up while idling because the alternator is attempting to pump current into the battery and the resistance present leads to heating. The same thing doesn't happen on the 2nd battery because there not a bad connection there.

Here's another thing to do: shut off the motor and measure the resistance from the top of the battery post to the stud that the fusible links bolts to. It should be 0 ohms. (Don't touch the meter probe to ground while doing this or you may blow a fuse in your meter or even fry it altogether.)
 
No resistance from the center of the battery post to fusible link stud, or anything else I could reach on the positive side. May stop by a shop tomorrow and have them test the battery. Its an AGM and has been holding a charge fine.
 
No resistance from the center of the battery post to fusible link stud, or anything else I could reach on the positive side. May stop by a shop tomorrow and have them test the battery. Its an AGM and has been holding a charge fine.
OK, you got me then. But definitely your battery terminal should not be getting hot like that. Something isn't right.
 
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