Ecu misfire?

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Well that sucks. Time to test wire continuity from each cylinder to the ECU to make sure the wiring is good and consistent between cylinders. Another guy in the Tundra forums found a broken exhaust valve spring.
Yes continuity has been checked. Leak down and compression test have been done and passed. Will a broken valve spring allow those tests to pass?
 
Well that sucks. Time to test wire continuity from each cylinder to the ECU to make sure the wiring is good and consistent between cylinders. Another guy in the Tundra forums found a broken exhaust valve spring.
This is completely ridiculous that I have this being looked at by toyota technicians here where I work and they can't figure it out. Beyond frustrated
 
Apparently this vehicle passed all the tests with a broken valve spring.


Yes continuity has been checked. Leak down and compression test have been done and passed. Will a broken valve spring allow those tests to pass?
 
Apparently this vehicle passed all the tests with a broken valve spring.

Mine only does it once it hits around 185 degrees while idling.
 
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I would have pulled the valve cover and given the springs a good look and probably some sort of tension test long ago.
 
I would have pulled the valve cover and given the springs a good look and probably some sort of tension test long ago.
Seems very unlikely that a spring is broken in cylinder 4 and on the opposite side number 7 cylinder also.
 
Seems very unlikely that a spring is broken in cylinder 4 and on the opposite side number 7 cylinder also.
I agree, but it's not difficult to do and will rule that out as a cause.
 
I agree, but it's not difficult to do and will rule that out as a cause.
See part of the problem is I'm working with a technician at my dealership and not trying to tell him what to do. I'll suggest this tomorrow
 
Great points! If STFT and LTFT remain stable, it does narrow things down. I'd definitely recheck the harness and connectors for those cylinders—heat can amplify subtle connection issues. Valve or head gasket problems are also plausible, especially with heat-triggered symptoms. A compression or leak-down test could rule those out.
Compression and leak down tests pass.
 
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Here's an interesting thing. I asked my tech if he actually sees it misfiring but he said misfire count stays at zero until it's idling long enough to go into misfire protection mode. Usually 8 minutes or so from a cold start.
 
Just to see if the computer would pick up An actual misfire I unplugged the left side fuel injector harness. Started truck. Let run about 30 seconds or so and it didn't turn on the mil. It also didn't store pending codes other than the 304 and 307 that I've been struggling with. I turned the truck off and restarted it (it cranked for a decent amount of time), once running again still no mil no new pending codes. Hmmm?
 
if you think its the ecu you could crack it open to see any obvious damage. on the 2jz ones the leaky capacitors were pretty obvious.
 
Here's some more notes from my testing

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Can someone with a scan gauge? Check your cat temp bank 1 sensor 1 Temperature with the vehicle warmed up and then turn the vehicle off and right back on and see how much difference the temperature is. Please and thank you
 
I captured the bank 1 sensor 1 info for @TheGrrrr on my summer trip. Temps vary but it was holding at about 1450F normally in 5th gear when towing, and would spike to about 1560F if I was climbing in 3rd or 4th gear. I don’t recall what it would read if if shut the truck off and immediately turned it on… it might spike but overall it cools pretty quick j once exhaust gases stop flowing.

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“Right corner is bank 1, sensor 1. I’m Towing in Wyoming. Seems to largely follow RPM. If I get down into 4th or 3rd it’ll move up to 1560F but seems to top out there, as the A/F mix drop and the ECU riches the mix the temp steadies out even at almost 5k RPMs”
 
Just wanted to ad that this replacement engine had a lot of carbon buildup I'm assuming from many short trips. It had only 45k miles and came out of a 2011 lx570. Might these carbon deposits be causing misfires?
 
I captured the bank 1 sensor 1 info for @TheGrrrr on my summer trip. Temps vary but it was holding at about 1450F normally in 5th gear when towing, and would spike to about 1560F if I was climbing in 3rd or 4th gear. I don’t recall what it would read if if shut the truck off and immediately turned it on… it might spike but overall it cools pretty quick j once exhaust gases stop flowing.

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“Right corner is bank 1, sensor 1. I’m Towing in Wyoming. Seems to largely follow RPM. If I get down into 4th or 3rd it’ll move up to 1560F but seems to top out there, as the A/F mix drop and the ECU riches the mix the temp steadies out even at almost 5k RPMs”
Ok thanks that's some helpful info
 
Anyone try to remove deposits in one of these engines?
 
Just wanted to ad that this replacement engine had a lot of carbon buildup I'm assuming from many short trips. It had only 45k miles and came out of a 2011 lx570. Might these carbon deposits be causing misfires?
Carbon build up and deposits alone shouldn't cause a misfire. Build up on a spark plug to the point of fowling could be a cause but you've already swapped plugs (I think). Trying to clean carbon buildup at this point might cause more issues but you might have nothing to lose by running something like seafoam in the crankcase and fuel system. I used seafoam on a BMW once with great result.
 

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