Drop Trans Pan (1 Viewer)

[shaggyFJ]

Hi all

I'm going to drop my pan and clean the screen/filter. All the kits online show a gasket. Reading through the threads here I see those who say they did not come with a gasket. If so what should I use to seal it up. I know the Toyota stuff is good but pricey. What can I pick up at the local parts stores that will be good for this? Also has anyone used the gasket that comes in these kits? If so how did it work?

2002 LX470

 

[TXLX100]

If you can't use a gasket, I'd use the toyota FIPG, I think you want the Orange for that job.

 

[shaggyFJ]

It's not a matter of can't use a gasket. I just read on here that they didn't come from the factory with a gasket. Is that true folks?

 

[Trunk Monkey]

Don't see a gasket on the part diagram. Use Toyo FIPG, don't go cheap.

 

[2001LC]

Trunk Monkey knows best^.^. Toyota FIPG, no kit needed.

 

[shaggyFJ]

Roger that! Toyota FIPG it is.

 

[TXLX100]

It's not a matter of can't use a gasket. I just read on here that they didn't come from the factory with a gasket. Is that true folks?

If they don't make it sounds like you can't use it, haha. I remember something about some 100s having a gasket, could be on the later years.

 

[shaggyFJ]

So has anyone on here used the gasket that comes with these filter kits? If so how did it work out? Did you still have to use some sort of sealant? Someone has had to have used one.

 

[hankinid]

With the sole exception of rubber gaskets with steel bushings on the bolt holes, any gasket you use will require a sealant. So, if you're using sealant anyway without the gasket, why screw with the gasket in the first place??

I've had no issues with Toyota fipg's on trans pans as well as cooling system stuff. Parma-Tex Ultra Gray silicone or the NAPA equivalent also does a superb job. I don't replace fluid until the sealant is fully cured...read the label.

Steve

 

[2001LC]

Parts department guy's tell me; "the Toyota transmission FIPG is so good the GM & ford mechanic come get it". A gasket will drop your pan by it's thickness, not a big deal. But why bother using it, as @hankinid said.

 

[TheWhiskeyWorks]

My 2003 LX used a gasket (part #35168-60010), but I have the 5-speed. There were no "steel bushings on the bolt holes" and it didn't require any sealant. It was about as straight forward as possible.

5 speed trans pan

With gasket in place

Old gasket - no sealant used...

 

[2001LC]

Need a survey thread; Pre or post 03 transmission pan leaks?

My 01 no gasket, no leak before or after pan drop.

 

[marques]

On my '99, when I first went thru the exercise at 50k miles, i discovered Toyota had used the FIPG sealer at the factory (no gasket). It made it very difficult to separate the pan from the transmission and clean up all the old FIPG residue without scratching the surfaces. You would think Toyota didn't want anyone to ever take off the pan! I put it back together at the time with a regular gasket and no other kind of sealant. After repeating the exercise a total of 5 times (every 50k miles, always with a gasket and no other sealer), I can say I have had zero transmission fluid leaks. Not a drop. Stays completely dry at the seam between the pan and the transmission. MUCH easier to service than the FIPG stuff. Just use a new gasket every time you drop the pan. It's not reusable (unless you manage to find one of those rubber ones). Use a torque wrench to put it back together and go around 2-3 times, not just once.

 

[shaggyFJ]

On my '99, when I first went thru the exercise at 50k miles, i discovered Toyota had used the FIPG sealer at the factory (no gasket). It made it very difficult to separate the pan from the transmission and clean up all the old FIPG residue without scratching the surfaces. You would think Toyota didn't want anyone to ever take off the pan! I put it back together at the time with a regular gasket and no other kind of sealant. After repeating the exercise a total of 5 times (every 50k miles, always with a gasket and no other sealer), I can say I have had zero transmission fluid leaks. Not a drop. Stays completely dry at the seam between the pan and the transmission. MUCH easier to service than the FIPG stuff. Just use a new gasket every time you drop the pan. It's not reusable (unless you manage to find one of those rubber ones). Use a torque wrench to put it back together and go around 2-3 times, not just once.

What gasket do you use? What torque are you using on the bolts. I like the idea of not having to scape every time. Were the gaskets you used a cork type or something else?

 

[2001LC]

On my '99, when I first went thru the exercise at 50k miles, i discovered Toyota had used the FIPG sealer at the factory (no gasket). It made it very difficult to separate the pan from the transmission and clean up all the old FIPG residue without scratching the surfaces. You would think Toyota didn't want anyone to ever take off the pan! I put it back together at the time with a regular gasket and no other kind of sealant. After repeating the exercise a total of 5 times (every 50k miles, always with a gasket and no other sealer), I can say I have had zero transmission fluid leaks. Not a drop. Stays completely dry at the seam between the pan and the transmission. MUCH easier to service than the FIPG stuff. Just use a new gasket every time you drop the pan. It's not reusable (unless you manage to find one of those rubber ones). Use a torque wrench to put it back together and go around 2-3 times, not just once.

Good point on R&R without needing to scrap FIPG. Nice to hear it's work so well.

Maybe Mr. T didn't intend, as dropping pan isn't a maintenance item is it?

 

[marques]

What gasket do you use? What torque are you using on the bolts. I like the idea of not having to scape every time. Were the gaskets you used a cork type or something else?

I just use whatever gasket comes with the filter kit. Some times it's cork, others it's that waxy squishy cellulose/paper/cardboard stuff. Either way, they are one-time-use items that compress and conform as you torque the pan in place. M6 bolts take about 90 inch-lbs.

 

[shaggyFJ]

I just use whatever gasket comes with the filter kit. Some times it's cork, others it's that waxy squishy cellulose/paper/cardboard stuff. Either way, they are one-time-use items that compress and conform as you torque the pan in place. M6 bolts take about 90 inch-lbs.

The one I looked at was rubber I think. Where do you usually buy yours?

 

[Skidoo]

Transmission case is aluminum, USE a torque wench. It is very easy to strip the case.
Did I say use a torque wench!!

 

[Rolocado]

I have a leak at the trans gasket from trying to separate it a while back, what’s tools are everyone using for this?

 

[2001LC]

For 98-02 which use FIPG, rather than the gasket used 03-up. I bent a knife to pound in and around pan to separate the FIPG.