I have a 2014 LX 570. I may need to replace the rear rotors. I've replaced my 2007 Sienna van's rear rotors and replacing the rear shoe brake (e-brake) is a pain especially when it's my first time doing it. I wonder if the LX 570 have similar e-brake in the rear rotors.
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If they are worn out, yes. But they generally don't see much action, so likely won't need to be replaced.
I did my rotors and pads at about 80K miles and the shoes still looked new so I didn't replaced them.
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Re: tool - get another tool. Right tool for the right job. Tools are cheap these days.
Re: rotors - what the man said: get OEM
Re: pads - unless there is something in particular you want or don't like about the old ones, get the same. As for replacing pads and rotors at the same time opinions are split. It also depends on particular car and brake system. On my high perf cars w/ Brembo brakes, I replace them independently. Usually I use two pairs of pads for one rotor (they don't last long, the price if high performance). I do not resurface rotors when replacing pads thus keeping the rotors "primed". On my vehicles with economy brakes, LX included, pads last a lot longer and rotors do not wear the same so I tend to resurface rotors when changing pads.
The decision is not black and white, and it actually comes to actual wear patterns.
Re: rotors - what the man said: get OEM
Re: pads - unless there is something in particular you want or don't like about the old ones, get the same. As for replacing pads and rotors at the same time opinions are split. It also depends on particular car and brake system. On my high perf cars w/ Brembo brakes, I replace them independently. Usually I use two pairs of pads for one rotor (they don't last long, the price if high performance). I do not resurface rotors when replacing pads thus keeping the rotors "primed". On my vehicles with economy brakes, LX included, pads last a lot longer and rotors do not wear the same so I tend to resurface rotors when changing pads.
The decision is not black and white, and it actually comes to actual wear patterns.
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@doru, thanks for the tips. Yesterday I was driving at round 75-80 mph and braking, I noticed the whole vehicle is shaking quite a bit. I can feel the steering wheel and braking pedal shaking too but not too bad if the vehicle moving around 45-50 mph. My question is, does that mean I replace the front rotors or all rotors? Last week I took it to the Lexus dealer for something else and they said the rear rotors may need replacement. But with this new discovery, I'm not sure if replacing the rear rotors will solve this issue. Thoughts? Thanks!
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Tool: What tool(s) do you recommend for making this rotors, brake pads, and perhaps e-brake shoe replacement go a bit more smoothly?
Rotors: Okay, I'm getting OEM...can't believe the shipping is over $150 for 4 rotors.
Brake Pads: What are the difference between ADVICS AD1303 and ADVICS AD1304? I put in the same part number 0446560280 for the front brake pads and that site shows two kinds of pads.
Just did my brakes about a week ago and I am much happier with pedal feel and braking. I really wanted to go the DBA rotor and pad route but it was quite a bit more than I wanted to spend. I also don't do a ton of off-road driving...light trail use for camping/hunting trips maybe 6x per year.
After reading as much info on MUD as I could find on the subject I settled on OE rotors and Hawk LTS pads. Day of install came and I still didn't have my pads (I realized that I never submitted my order) so I had to go a different route! Anyway, the only performance pads I could get in short order were the Akebono Performance Pads at my local Napa. Braking is much improved...better pedal feel and much better initial bite.
OE Rotors were ~$60 ea. for the front and ~$80 ea. for the rear.
Also, had the same issue with the brake shoe retainer spring. I couldn't get me tool straight onto the spring hat b/c of the hub. My shoes weren't shot so I just opted to keep them and replace everything else.
After reading as much info on MUD as I could find on the subject I settled on OE rotors and Hawk LTS pads. Day of install came and I still didn't have my pads (I realized that I never submitted my order) so I had to go a different route! Anyway, the only performance pads I could get in short order were the Akebono Performance Pads at my local Napa. Braking is much improved...better pedal feel and much better initial bite.
OE Rotors were ~$60 ea. for the front and ~$80 ea. for the rear.
Also, had the same issue with the brake shoe retainer spring. I couldn't get me tool straight onto the spring hat b/c of the hub. My shoes weren't shot so I just opted to keep them and replace everything else.
CharlieS
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I've never used anything other than Toyota rotors on my 200s. I've run stock, TRD (Tundra) and Stoptech Sport pads. I prefer the TRD pads, but they're unobtainium recently. The Stoptech Sport are allegedly the same compound, but I'm skeptical. They work well on a heavier than stock rig, but the are more grabby than the TRDs, in my experience. I typically use Centric hardware kits.
Re: TRD Pads
If you don't mind waiting for shipping...I found some TRD pads in California. Fronts seem to be the harder ones to find but Anaheim Toyota had a set as a couple of weeks ago. I had the parts guy lay hands on them but I didn't have the luxury of time so I never purchased them. Manahattan Beach Toyota had a few sets of rears. I believe they only sell parts through their ebay store.
If you don't mind waiting for shipping...I found some TRD pads in California. Fronts seem to be the harder ones to find but Anaheim Toyota had a set as a couple of weeks ago. I had the parts guy lay hands on them but I didn't have the luxury of time so I never purchased them. Manahattan Beach Toyota had a few sets of rears. I believe they only sell parts through their ebay store.
PN for TRD rears? Thx
bloc
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@Charlielj the rear brakes on a 200 aren't nearly as compact as in the pictures. There is plenty of room to use the tool, in fact there isn't even a hole in the hub face for it, it can be accessed to the side of the hub face.
Be sure you get access to the FSM and look up the procedure for adjusting the parking brake. To do it correctly you need a 45# fish scale to pull on the brake handle looking for a certain number of clicks.
Be sure you get access to the FSM and look up the procedure for adjusting the parking brake. To do it correctly you need a 45# fish scale to pull on the brake handle looking for a certain number of clicks.
interesting these are listed only for LC 08-10.
