Do you Trust Chinese Replacement Turbo's "CT26 for a 1hdt"

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Now what if the Chinese turbos just lack a balancing but instead they are just assembled without taking this into consideration.
I have heard hybric4x4 got his balanced after getting it along with some waste gate machining for a more free flowing system.
 
I think I would rebuild a ct26 myself and then send it to get rebalanced.
I don't honestly think its a wheel issue but hey my main guess would be from having it out of balance is the main reason of failure.
 
turbo rebuild

hi everyone,rebuilding any turbocharger once need a lot of knowledge & experience. a used turbocharger might need a lot of parts, just like an engine block,pistons,rings,beb,mb,thrustwashers & sorthforth ware down after high mileage,but my question is, why rebuilded turbo,some last and some don`t? did any one knows that the ware inside the chra,exhaust seal ring area,turbo exducer shaft ,inducer impeller,thrust bearing & many factors do ware with out proper measurement . i suppose they just throw in new impeller.bushings,bearings & necessary hardware to complete the job.how about the housing that hold the bearings? i do know those bearing come in 5 difference oversizes.so is the thrust washers & exhaust seal ring. so after so much mileage i would prefer a complete new assy.that is my thought & personal experience.
 
avoid buying chinese if you can help it

I do not trust the country, as much as I hate the fact that some times, I need to by products made in china.

Why not just get a used turbo that needs rebuilding "make sure the impeller blades are not hitting the casing". find a write up how to press out the bearings and seals, and install new ones. I always like the idea of rebuilding. It cost me 0$ to do a partial rebuild on my alternator. Alternator Re-builder gave me a set of brushes for free. Not sure why.
 
The bearings fall in and are designed to spin ont he shaft as well as the housing. They are the softer metal and are designed to be the wear comonent. If you have damaged a center section without a major failure, that is amazing. You would have worn out cast iron with essentialy brass and didnt blow the turbo up? t is possible, but I think it unlikely. Wearing a oil seal so it lets oil past could easily be coking and a build up around it. I have taken many turbos apart that could barely turn by hand and simply cleaned all the carbon off the turbine side by the oil seals and reassembled them and torqued them and they spin effortlessly. Now I was just playing around and didnt run them, but was interesting to see how big of a difference it made. Rebuild it with a genuine toyota kit and rebalance it.
 
Ive done hundreds of CT26, the bearings are fine 99% of the time on engines that have done 500kkm.

The issue is thrust bearing (25%) and oil seals (100%), turbine housing cracked 50%. Other main issue is compressor wheel erosion.

So, to make it work like new, new seals, comp wheel and thrust collars/bearing, maybe turbine housing and a balance. Thats pretty much it.
 
it almost seems like it defeats the purpose to buy a Chinese turbo if you have to send it to a shop for a re and re.

$300-500 bucks for a Chinese turbo
$500-600 bucks for them to re-do it.
$800-$1100 later....

Best to rebuild the stock one (cheapest option)

Performance option would be to do a 7mgte hybrid.
Track down a used 7mgte turbo, get it rebuilt, throw in a 360 deg thrust washer, slap your 1hd-t exhaust housing on it (assuming its not cracked) and voila you have a turbo good for 20+ psi if I have read correctly. for half the cost of a G-turbo.

Gturbo would be the way to go if your willing to spend the money. They are fun.
 
Yes This is what I continue to suggest to people. If they want to save money its a nice option the 7MGTE upgrade. Though, I think people really miss the low rpm response mantra of Gturbo. Its not all about peak power and high boost - its about doing it ALL. And in a diesel, because of how improved diesel efficiency is in the lower rpms (1500-2000 in the case of the 1HDT), this I have found to be very beneficial to improve (cleanly).

If you have one of these "power pins", they simply dump in the fuel with a sniff of boost with a very aggressive fuel curve. Almost any turbo on a diesel will spool early if you tip the fuel in hard - with coal out the exhaust until rpm rises up. Thats why I use the std pin (1HDFT pin is best because its the most emissions friendly pin) and leave ALL the longest off boost flat area, use a bench grinder with sharp edge to grind the profile at that point steeper and deeper, make it all smooth with emery then wet/dry and tension up the toothed wheel till it makes the aneroid diaphragm sit proud of the pump by ~ 5mm. Then rotate top off boost fuel cam to lowest fuel point and grind 2-3mm off the thread protruding from centre of aneroid diaphram to ensure it can sit nice and high guaranteeing minimum fuel off boost.

Thats how to tune for minimum smoke and maximum performance on a stock pump. But, you need a early spooling turbo (one that doesn't need high pre turbo EGTS/sub 16.5:1 AFr's to spool) to do that - especially on a manual where as torque builds the rpm is slow to follow (unlike auto where outside of TC lockup the slip will occur and rpm will rise helping clean up the exhaust). On Autos, especially the JDM that has TC lockup at ~ 60km/h in 4th, the torque at 1400rpm (with minimal smoke) is really nice to have. With std turbo (or with 7MGTE Hiflow), intyercooler and exhaust, you can almost get it going at 1400, but unfortunately not quite. Certainly you can get the "push in the back" at lockup at 1400rpm with aggressive fuelling, but its at the expense and insult to all the people following your truck when they have to breath your garbage.

I would suggest people find a local shop to do the basic comp cover machining and buy a new comp wheel for it. Theres no drawbacks for this mod and its a cheap mod and you still have an OEM turbo which you don't have any questions about quality on. I have 360 degree kits Im happy to sell that I don't use any more just haven't had the time to advertise. Complete rebuild kits with 360 degree upgrade.

For the budget minded I can even offer genuine turbine wheel matched to a 7MGTE comp wheel, balanced with 360 degree rebuild kit $448. All you need to do is disassemble old turbo, machine comp cover to match and put together there you go, done. very cheap, no balancing required!

it almost seems like it defeats the purpose to buy a Chinese turbo if you have to send it to a shop for a re and re.

$300-500 bucks for a Chinese turbo
$500-600 bucks for them to re-do it.
$800-$1100 later....

Best to rebuild the stock one (cheapest option)

Performance option would be to do a 7mgte hybrid.
Track down a used 7mgte turbo, get it rebuilt, throw in a 360 deg thrust washer, slap your 1hd-t exhaust housing on it (assuming its not cracked) and voila you have a turbo good for 20+ psi if I have read correctly. for half the cost of a G-turbo.

Gturbo would be the way to go if your willing to spend the money. They are fun.
 
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For the budget minded I can even offer genuine turbine wheel matched to a 7MGTE comp wheel, balanced with 360 degree rebuild kit $448. All you need to do is disassemble old turbo, machine comp cover to match and put together there you go, done. very cheap, no balancing required!

this seems to be a real nice alternative .. although I never found the supra hybrid work well for me over 18 PSI .. maybe that was coz my aggressiveness fuel settings or just my local hot and humid weather ( that was before my IC ) even with plenty of alcohol injection ..
 
Or go you can go down this road....

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Toyota-Landc...Parts_Accessories&hash=item41717aee27&vxp=mtr

Get a rebuild kit like this one for example and rebuild it yourself.... send out the CHRA to get balanced for peace of mind and your still cheaper than getting the one above with all the shipping.

I was scared to even thing about rebuilding mine but talking to a few helpful forum members it doesn't seem all that hard and as long as its tight and balanced the only bad thing that will happen is it will start to leak oil which isn't the end of the world, just repeat the process.

fwiw I am going to go down the road I listed above but prob. do a supra hybrid as it is known to be a little bit of an improvement. G-Turbo one day :P
 
Or for those that are im the USA you can support a local company
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Toyota-C...r_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d2631d656

Hamo

yes that is the correct one, its is good, the other is not good. It is same as the one Im offering in kit above - mind you I don't use this anymore. I have maybe 40-50pcs of same kit as this. And also complete rebuild kit - Im happy to sell complete rebuild kit for $138 - quality one, not rubbish like some of them.
 
Or go you can go down this road....

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Toyota-Landc...Parts_Accessories&hash=item41717aee27&vxp=mtr

Get a rebuild kit like this one for example and rebuild it yourself.... send out the CHRA to get balanced for peace of mind and your still cheaper than getting the one above with all the shipping.

I was scared to even thing about rebuilding mine but talking to a few helpful forum members it doesn't seem all that hard and as long as its tight and balanced the only bad thing that will happen is it will start to leak oil which isn't the end of the world, just repeat the process.

fwiw I am going to go down the road I listed above but prob. do a supra hybrid as it is known to be a little bit of an improvement. G-Turbo one day :P

Pony up a stage 2 grunter.... Its going to be worth you time because I guarentee as soon as you get the supra one your going to want more. Trust me.
Buy once cry once.
A part of me wants to upgrade to a stage 2 grunter at some point. Give me some time, it will probably be after a pump job in the future.
 
Thanks for all of the help guys.

Im a little new to all this. I dont know to much about turbo's.
But I do know if they Blow up your in big $***.
I do not have any gauges right know. so i cant tell you what its running at. I may put some in, in a week or two. It does not blow any blue or make any noise yet. but it is leaking oil.
When I got the steering box rebuilt they had to take the air hose off, and that is when they notised how loose the Impeller Shaft was. And it is really loose.

"Leaking oil" is a common "complaint" of those who do not know what to look for. Oil in the intake side of the turbo may or may not be problematic. Many, many people mistake oil in the intake side of the turbo for a leaking seal in the turbo when, in fact, it's oil from the crankcase breather that's doing it.

The shaft of the turbo needs to have some play in it as you're dealing with a journal bearing. The play may seem like a lot to many people who do not know what to look for - I've had experience techs tell that they think a turbo is totally worn out because of the "up / down" play of the turbo shaft when it is, in fact, an almost new or new turbo - if you don't know what you're looking for, then you may very easily mis-diagnose play as a problem when it's actually meant to be there. "In / out" (axial) play is bad. If the impeller is hitting the housing, it's needing rebuilding. If it's that bad, do not run it, get it repaired or replaced first - there is some chance that the engine can run away on you or be very difficult to shut down if it ends up burning engine oil as fuel.

I'd suggest that you have your turbo checked out by an experienced technician who actually knows something about turbos and what a worn-out unit looks like vs. a good unit.


~John
 
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"Leaking oil" is a common "complaint" of those who do not know what to look for. Oil in the intake side of the turbo may or may not be problematic. Many, many people mistake oil in the intake side of the turbo for a leaking seal in the turbo when, in fact, it's oil from the crankcase breather that's doing it.

~John

Routing the crank case to the ground temporary is a quick way to check where the oil is coming from.


Unfortunately I've gone with an eBay turbo. Got quoted "$850 and up" to get my CT20 rebuilt. A broke university student, and not wanting to dump money into the 2lte, I went the cheap route. Contacted other people who have purchased turbos from the same seller to get opinions. 3 of the 25 got back to me, and all said they were running fine.

Since I've swapped it in in December, (and the new 2.5" downpipe), its been running great. 6000kms. Dont expect it to last too long, but I'm not expecting a huge failure. I'm assuming low quality oil seals, and it will start leaking within a couple years. Time will tell. I'll be naive and pretend the intercooler will act as a filter if things go boom. :rolleyes: . Its been balanced as it has similar balancing marks on both the compressor and turbine wheels.

On a better motor I would suggest you dont risk it though.
 
I dont trust them..

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