Do you Trust Chinese Replacement Turbo's "CT26 for a 1hdt"

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mpreston73

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Hey Guys.

I need a new or rebuilt Turbo for my 1990 HDJ81 "1hdt engine". I have got a few different prices on getting mine rebuilt in the Vancouver area, and its about $700. I have also seen Chinese built turbo's on e-bay shipped to your door for around $300. I am sure they are not genuine toyota, but will they do the job and how long can I expect it to last? Has anyone had any experience with these Chinese turbo's?
 
Going through this right now. ATEB has said they are fine and he is running one on his 3L Prado, he also says there are many 1HD-T's running them, one of them is wrongwayaround IIRC and he has his boosted quite high.

Im still on the fence, while if I was in a pinch I would run one while I got mine fixed anything I see chineese that comes through work usually is crap but you never know.

I got quoted 600 best case/ 1000 Worst Case scenario from BD Diesel in Abby who has done a few of my friends JDM's.... There is the other option of going with a G-Turbo... which are pricy but apparently quite worth it, I am looking that this also.

Maybe some others on here can chime in
 
All the options mentioned are all good each doubling in price at least as you can imagine .I personally have had the first two turbo options with great results ,and hear nothing bad about the g Turbo besides the landed price. I have found that you have to know your future plans for power with what ever turbo you choose. I've been running the Chinese turbo for only about 15,000km at 22-26 psi only . I also had it torn completely apart and dissected for flaws ,quality ,and came back that it was top quality and could safely run under 30 psi .but shut down should be babied with idle down due to the lack of water cooling. Hope that helps . Ateb is the guy who set me up.
 
wrongway around said:
All the options mentioned are all good each doubling in price at least as you can imagine .I personally have had the first two turbo options with great results ,and hear nothing bad about the g Turbo besides the landed price. I have found that you have to know your future plans for power with what ever turbo you choose. I've been running the Chinese turbo for only about 15,000km at 22-26 psi only . I also had it torn completely apart and dissected for flaws ,quality ,and came back that it was top quality and could safely run under 30 psi .but shut down should be babied with idle down due to the lack of water cooling. Hope that helps . Ateb is the guy who set me up.
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Out of curiosity what configuration are you running. Are you willing to divulge this info or is it ATEB's secret?
What sort of numbers is it getting in comparison to the gturbo out of curiosity.

The gturbo is an expensive option but I have been quite happy with it, Graeme stands by his product and its been thoroughly tested. I would love to know other options for my 75.
 
I have heard the same thing about chinese turbos, that you dont know what your getting until you take it appart and check it. It is also worth mentioning that you cannot check if the turbine will separate fromthe shaft at high speeds. I would think your in the clear wrong way in that dept from the boost and kms you have, but I have heard of major catistrophic failures that wreck motors, and then you get guys like you who put them through the paces and they work great. I guess for me its easy enough to get a genuine center section and and turbine to build off of.

What is wrong with your turbo? Blowing oil? Noise?

I too would like to know your turbo specs wrongway.

I would be weary of BD. I have dealt with them and gotten screwed many times. The only thing id buy from them is the amsoil gear oil in their showroom, and even then keep your hand on your wallet!
Id recomomend ADP in port kells 604-888-3726, or NW fuel injection in surrey. (604) 882-3835 both are quality shops.
 
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Thanks for all of the help guys.

Im a little new to all this. I dont know to much about turbo's.
But I do know if they Blow up your in big $***.
I do not have any gauges right know. so i cant tell you what its running at. I may put some in, in a week or two. It does not blow any blue or make any noise yet. but it is leaking oil.
When I got the steering box rebuilt they had to take the air hose off, and that is when they notised how loose the Impeller Shaft was. And it is really loose.
 
Chinese CT26 turbo's are JUNK!!! Plain and simple. I am absolutely amazed.... That wrongway around is running 1 at high psi for so long?!?!? What compressor? Whats the specs? There have been tonnes of failures here. The real problem was china was stamping their turbo housings just like genuine "Toyota CT26" etc. Until they got sued and now only allowed to put CT26 on them. Alot of the blown ones do not look very old at all. I tried to source genuine parts once. Cant get a hold of CRHA at all. Rebuild genuine, or go with a proven and waranted turbo. This is definately a feild where you get what you pay for.
 
I don't think you can rule that everything is junk. But yes you pay for a product that has been tested and is reliable.
 
John Galt said:
All Chinese products are a 'crap shoot' YOU are the quality control dept.
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Leave out the word "Chinese" and I'd agree with you.
 
Leaking oil is an issue in the 250-350kkm range. Loose is acceptable so long as its not touching housings (and the reason its not touching housings is not because its worn itself smaller...). Axial play (in/out) IS an issue.

Re: Chinese turbos. I have heard of some lasting, I have seen some failed ones. Some companies are re-coring genuine turbos with Chinese centres. This week I overnighted a turbo to a guy who had an Aussie major company "rebuild" his turbo 9 months ago and it grenaded after 9 months in the bush 4 hrs drive from home. Funny story is that yesterday the Nissan Patrol (GU, 3 litre ZD30) engined "exploded" (his words) towing it home! I would caution that buying a cheap turbo is an expensive way to save $. Since this is self interest for me, take it as you like.

On the subject of boost - Wrongway, check out my youtube clip on boost response. No other CT26 will do this. AFR was 17:1 at 1400.




mpreston73 said:
Thanks for all of the help guys.

Im a little new to all this. I dont know to much about turbo's.
But I do know if they Blow up your in big $***.
I do not have any gauges right know. so i cant tell you what its running at. I may put some in, in a week or two. It does not blow any blue or make any noise yet. but it is leaking oil.
When I got the steering box rebuilt they had to take the air hose off, and that is when they notised how loose the Impeller Shaft was. And it is really loose.
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Yes I saw his turbo ,I know I wouldn't be driving it play all over hitting housing ,one of the worst I've seen. I can only speak of my on experience with the Chinese turbo ,plus ateb is running one ,and that's it ,so definitely not a proven product. So the under Garrett licence thing is this new because of copy right law suites..and what's wrong with 26 psi boost . Sorry G I'm not to good seeing differences unless first hand ,and only ever seen one hdt with your turbo on it .and its only here say from a tuner for comparison.
 
There have been times where I wouldn't buy a chinese brake rotor because of the run of luck I was having with them... While things seems to have gotten better in the quality lately (at least for me) I would never put a chinese turbo on my old engine let alone one yours!

How much is an engine worth?
 
i wouldn't even consider the chinese option. if built by slave labour doesn't put you off, manufacturing standards are no where near north american levels. that'swhy chinese stainless steel rusts.
 
for those who never have one of those CT26 copy ( the CT26 letters are smallest in the Chinese turbo copy ) just seen it and having in your hands won't make you any confident about it's quality .. while it can be a cheap short time solution I would try all other options to keep my turbo as top notch as I can ..
 
wrongway around said:
Sorry G I'm not to good seeing differences unless first hand ,and only ever seen one hdt with your turbo on it .and its only here say from a tuner for comparison.
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Its not at all about how much boost a turbo can make on a diesel - high boost is easy - its all about how early it can make it and still hold it at high rpm.

FYI, any CT26 with a reasonably larger comp wheel can easily do 20psi. It will need a 360 degree thrust to do it long term, but it will certainly make lost of boost. It just won't do it really early in rpm.

Did you see the video... its just a customers vehicle I finished tuning, not here-say. I will post more now (when I tune the next vehicle that has a compliment of gauges) that I found the time to make a little youtube channel.

You can directly compare the video to your own 1HDT, theres no tricks.

I just loaded another video - casual driving through all 5 hears to show boost response without stomping on the throttle and changing gears at ~ 2000rpm. Its vid of a 1HDFT I did a few days later with similar results (top mount Plazma man) water to air IC however I can't prove the rpm since the 1HDFT was fitted to a std spec 80 and doesn't even have a tacho. Does 20psi at indicated 55-60km/h in 5th. At end of the id Im in 5th and press the throttle at ~ 60km/h and easily does 20psi (a little lazy due to low revs).
 
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well I bought mine over $500 US & had no trouble with it yet, boost running constant at 25 psi for almost 40,000 km & jest check it out,seem in show room stage. so I don`t know whey those guys are having problem with the Chinese turbo? my guess is they might have bought the $150 -$250 type. that might be a problem , I don`t know.
 
hybric4x4diesel said:
well I bought mine over $500 US & had no trouble with it yet, boost running constant at 25 psi for almost 40,000 km & jest check it out,seem in show room stage. so I don`t know whey those guys are having problem with the Chinese turbo? my guess is they might have bought the $150 -$250 type. that might be a problem , I don`t know.
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What model are you running on your 3l prado?
 
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