Diesel engine for 200 series in USA

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Have you driven the 5.7 Land Cruiser? Not the LX, the LC

Nope. As mentioned many times already in this thread, they don't even sell them here.

This thread does appear to be going in circles. Pagemaster and Shotts repeating the same claims over and over again.

New information please.
 
Nope. As mentioned many times already in this thread, they don't even sell them here.

This thread does appear to be going in circles. Pagemaster and Shotts repeating the same claims over and over again.

New information please.

Heres something new

Audi Q7 in the UK
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500 hp
737 ft/lb
0-62 in 5.5 sec


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DIESEL!!!

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I believe chimyz has a Q7 TDI as well as his past 5.7L LC. I'd be curious to hear his take.
 
Nope. As mentioned many timeins already in this thread, they don't even sell them here.

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Well, if you ever get a chance you really should check out a 5.7 LC. The LX570 is not exactly the same as it has about 400lbs of extra weight.

What is cool about both the 5.7 and 4.5 is that they are both linked to the same 6 speed and gear ratios.

It really does make a fair comparison.
 
Have you driven the 5.7 Land Cruiser? Not the LX, the LC

I sure have! Holy crap, what a power train! It blew me away! I thought my 100 was sweet? Crap...that 5.7L in the 200 blew my doors off!

I sure am glad that Toyota knows what USA new car drivers what in their SUV's!
 
And worth every penny vs the competition. I've got about $76K invested in my 2001 and have never regretted it. It's still like a new SUV today.
 
We're all cheering too about the $76k price tag. :clap:

I'm waiting till I can get my hands on a LHD HDJ105 in Africa. When they were new they were approx. $30k! Much better deal than a UZJ100 in my books. Same for a 200 diesel.
 
I'm not making fun of being able to afford that just seriously jealous. I clearly need a new career move.

If you say it fast it doesn't sound like as much :D
 
I sure have! Holy ****, what a power train! It blew me away! I thought my 100 was sweet? ****...that 5.7L in the 200 blew my doors off!

I sure am glad that Toyota knows what USA new car drivers what in their SUV's!

But you haven't driven the 4.5 or any other modern diesel 4wd?
 
But you haven't driven the 4.5 or any other modern diesel 4wd?

Who in the world needs to drive the 4.5 in order to know it supplies sub-par performance compared to the 5.7? If it was a better engine then Toyota would sell them here (and so would every other SUV auto maker in the US).

Factual details tell the story:

It's far slower
It's not as smooth
It stinks...this stops me from test driving and considering the purchase right off
It gets better mileage

Back to the topic...almost no new car buyers in the US want diesel motors. If they did they'd be for sale all over the place.

If you prefer diesel...then please go buy one and be happy. :)
 
Who in the world needs to drive the 4.5 in order to know it supplies sub-par performance compared to the 5.7? If it was a better engine then Toyota would sell them here (and so would every other SUV auto maker in the US).

Factual details tell the story:

It's far slower
It's not as smooth
It stinks...this stops me from test driving and considering the purchase right off
It gets better mileage

Back to the topic...almost no new car buyers in the US want diesel motors. If they did they'd be for sale all over the place.

If you prefer diesel...then please go buy one and be happy. :)

Oh look, I caught a troll.

Following your own stance would suggest a petrol lover who has never driven any modern diesel would be best staying out of a thread about diesel engines. Instead of posting bogus information while pretending it's fact.

Other than the better fuel mileage, all of your "facts" are made up and wrong.
 
Oh look, I caught a troll.

Following your own stance would suggest a petrol lover who has never driven any modern diesel would be best staying out of a thread about diesel engines. Instead of posting bogus information while pretending it's fact.

Other than the better fuel mileage, all of your "facts" are made up and wrong.

Let's follow your logic.....so one has to drive a 100-series Cruiser to know that it's much faster, smoother, and quieter compared to an 80-series? That's insane with all due respect. There's so much factual information on that topic that it's common knowledge. Do you really think I need do drive a Porsche 911T FIRST before I tell folks it'll blow away an Rx8? What, I can't go by the facts? The reports?

Magazine comparo's have already selected the 4.7 over the 4.5 "overall" though by a close margin. Reports show the 5.7 blasts the 4.7 in every way. Put 2 and 2 together. It's not rocket science.

And following every diesel vehicle here on the road in the US reveals they STINK. Some are better than others for sure. Some are quieter than others for sure. NONE reach the quietness or smoothness of gas. Again, it's factual...not rocket science and that's why US automakers don't offer them. WE DON'T WANT THEM. IF you do that's OK. :)
 
Let's follow your logic.....so one has to drive a 100-series Cruiser to know that it's much faster, smoother, and quieter compared to an 80-series? That's insane with all due respect. There's so much factual information on that topic that it's common knowledge. Do you really think I need do drive a Porsche 911T FIRST before I tell folks it'll blow away an Rx8? What, I can't go by the facts? The reports?

Magazine comparo's have already selected the 4.7 over the 4.5 "overall" though by a close margin. Reports show the 5.7 blasts the 4.7 in every way. Put 2 and 2 together. It's not rocket science.

And following every diesel vehicle here on the road in the US reveals they STINK. Some are better than others for sure. Some are quieter than others for sure. NONE reach the quietness or smoothness of gas. Again, it's factual...not rocket science and that's why US automakers don't offer them. WE DON'T WANT THEM. IF you do that's OK. :)

So you know you're following a diesel because it stinks, smokes and is noisey?
Which means when you follow a modern diesel (quiet, smoke free, no exhaust smell at all) you don't even realise.

Didn't realise you were basing your whole argument on a magazine report.

Where's that ignore button?
 
The diesel V8 mill in the LC200 is not an old fashioned diesel motor, so it does NOT stink, smoke or sounds clattery.

BTW, an eagle eyed Aussie spotted a left hand drive LC200 turbo diesel out testing in Australia. Maybe it's for the European market but maybe, just maybe, it could be for stateside too.

:cheers:

I've been thinking about the petrol vs diesel debate on this thread.

The really telling fact is that in Australia, when you compare used car prices, the diesel holds its value far better than the petrol, so that must be the true barometer of what real world user preference is.
 
The diesel V8 mill in the LC200 is not an old fashioned diesel motor, so it does NOT stink, smoke or sounds clattery.

Well, the 5.7 is not a super quiet engine it self, compared the 4.7, the 5.7 is now using a timing chain which is slightly louder due to the chain.

BTW, an eagle eyed Aussie spotted a left hand drive LC200 turbo diesel out testing in Australia. Maybe it's for the European market but maybe, just maybe, it could be for stateside too.
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Toyota already makes left-hand drive Land Cruiser 200 Diesels. They also make left-hand drive Land Cruisers 200's with the 4.0 V6 engine.
 
The really telling fact is that in Australia, when you compare used car prices, the diesel holds its value far better than the petrol, so that must be the true barometer of what real world user preference is.

This means nothing. The Land Cruiser Diesel 200 starts about $10,000 aussie dollars more than the exact same equipped 4.7 petrol
 
This means nothing. The Land Cruiser Diesel 200 starts about $10,000 aussie dollars more than the exact same equipped 4.7 petrol

Here are a couple of 2002 landcruiser 100's for sale.
The diesel has almost 3x the odometer reading of the petrol (199,000km vs 71,000km) yet it's still got a 10% higher asking price.

Toyota landcruiser VX 2002 for sale - TradeMe.co.nz - New Zealand
Toyota Landcruiser VX-LTD 5 STAGE AUTO 2002 for sale - TradeMe.co.nz - New Zealand
 

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