Custom HDJ81 Sliders (1 Viewer)

[lx450landcruiser]

Since I have a bit of interest in a set for a gas powered 80, can anyone tell me what differences there are in the frame from a HDJ to a FZJ? Especially the contour of the frame, and where stuff is mounted. Or if someone in the Chilliwack/Abbotsford area has a 80 (or LX450) and wouldn't mind me poking around under it with a measuring tape and camera for a few minutes...

Thanks,
Jason

Im in bellingham and could be persuaded to come up and let ou use my truck as a template Ive been considering sliders for quite some time now. ill even help ya weld them

PM me if you really need it my truck is a 96 lx450

 

[breadbox]

Those are nice and my would like them more with the step. I am not really close to you but I would like more pics.

Can you e-mail them to me.

Chris@dirtydrifters.com

Thanks, Chris

 

[d0ubledown]

upon closer inspection, the US PS mount looks like it may interfere if there are oem cats on the 80. most sliders meant for 80's have a double kink or a 'U' shape to go under the cats, where yours have just a single bend V shape, probably just enough room to clear 2.5" piping for the 81. if youve got an 81, then any slee, maf, or other US made slider mounts should clear. mine are stubbs, and his under cat mounting arms clear fine with cut & turned cats. oem orientation might have clearance issues though. i'll snap some pics of my setup tomorrow for comparison...

 

[wussyPup]

cool, been wanting to know myself. ssssoo, a slee, manafre, or whatever prefabbed slider will do the hdj81's then? straight bolt on?

Metal-Tech FZJ80 sliders are straight bolt on for '90 HDJ81

 

[millatruse]

Looks good!

 

[IronYuppy]

Thanks guys. I decided when I bought the truck that anything that I can build, I will build instead of buying.

I think the HDJ and the FJ are pretty well the same, I just don't have to deal with the big cats on the right side. I have a small muffler there, which will be disappearing anyways, so I just had to go around the pipe.

I'm still undecided what is next. Either a roof basket or a rear bumper. I scuffed up the rear bumper on the weekend on a rock though , so the decision might be getting clearer...

Jason

If you do a rear bumper/carrier, I'd be interested in one, too.

 

[Cruisin']

Hey all,

I haven't checked back to this thread in a bit, so I see there is a bit more interest. I am wanting to do a bit of a run through the spring, so let me know who is interested with a PM.

Iron Yupppy,
I'm also mulling ideas around for a rear bumper, with a carrier (probably bike rack for me, but I can do whatever someone wants...) Are you thinking to cut the rear crossmember or leave intact? I'm still on the fence on that one.

Cheers!
-Jason

 

[IronYuppy]

Hey all,

I haven't checked back to this thread in a bit, so I see there is a bit more interest. I am wanting to do a bit of a run through the spring, so let me know who is interested with a PM.

Iron Yupppy,
I'm also mulling ideas around for a rear bumper, with a carrier (probably bike rack for me, but I can do whatever someone wants...) Are you thinking to cut the rear crossmember or leave intact? I'm still on the fence on that one.

Cheers!
-Jason

Jason

I'm in the middle of a new front bumper design - one of the guys in our club is making it for me. Pics to be posted later.

I think I want my rear bumper to integrate the existing crossmember. I don't see a real legitimate reason to remove it. The small amount of departure angle you might gain isn't worth removing an integral section of frame, IMO, particularly in BC where that could technically net you a VI.

I clipped these photos from some other threads, and I think it's a good starting point. The ones on the green truck are really good (I'll also take the '68 Fastback parked beside it). If they had a section of plate that ran forward to the wheel-arch and somehow bolted to the frame, that would be ideal. If someone were to make a pair of these sections, with a swing-out spindle on one side (or both sides), they'd have a winner. Shipping and materials would be far less than for a complete, full-width bumper.

The one I'm mulling-over is very similar, but with a third section - a 3/8" floor/skid-plate that spans the area where the stock spare tire sits (the spare would have to be relocated). That plate would bolt to the two side sections and the rear crossmember, and keep the rear end from hanging up on stumps, etc. It would in effect run from side to side, and from the rear crossmember all the way to the rear panhard. if it was "deep" enough, it could also be a good place to relocate the battery, and/or put air tanks and/or a rear winch:

 

[hill]

Jason... im in calgary... and completely interested in sliders and a rear bumper... woo hooo

 

[96r50]

Jason

I'm in the middle of a new front bumper design - one of the guys in our club is making it for me. Pics to be posted later.

I think I want my rear bumper to integrate the existing crossmember. I don't see a real legitimate reason to remove it. The small amount of departure angle you might gain isn't worth removing an integral section of frame, IMO, particularly in BC where that could technically net you a VI.

I clipped these photos from some other threads, and I think it's a good starting point. The ones on the green truck are really good (I'll also take the '68 Fastback parked beside it). If they had a section of plate that ran forward to the wheel-arch and somehow bolted to the frame, that would be ideal. If someone were to make a pair of these sections, with a swing-out spindle on one side (or both sides), they'd have a winner. Shipping and materials would be far less than for a complete, full-width bumper.

The one I'm mulling-over is very similar, but with a third section - a 3/8" floor/skid-plate that spans the area where the stock spare tire sits (the spare would have to be relocated). That plate would bolt to the two side sections and the rear crossmember, and keep the rear end from hanging up on stumps, etc. It would in effect run from side to side, and from the rear crossmember all the way to the rear panhard. if it was "deep" enough, it could also be a good place to relocate the battery, and/or put air tanks and/or a rear winch:

I like the way you think sir! I haven't seen those pics before and I'd definitely be interested in something along those lines. If all goes as planned this summer I could even pick it up while I'm out in beautiful BC

 

[JMZ-]

I'm interested in the rear bumper too! It's a good point not removing the crossmember.

 

[Cruisin']

Jason

I'm in the middle of a new front bumper design - one of the guys in our club is making it for me. Pics to be posted later.

I think I want my rear bumper to integrate the existing crossmember. I don't see a real legitimate reason to remove it. The small amount of departure angle you might gain isn't worth removing an integral section of frame, IMO, particularly in BC where that could technically net you a VI.

I clipped these photos from some other threads, and I think it's a good starting point. The ones on the green truck are really good (I'll also take the '68 Fastback parked beside it). If they had a section of plate that ran forward to the wheel-arch and somehow bolted to the frame, that would be ideal. If someone were to make a pair of these sections, with a swing-out spindle on one side (or both sides), they'd have a winner. Shipping and materials would be far less than for a complete, full-width bumper.

The one I'm mulling-over is very similar, but with a third section - a 3/8" floor/skid-plate that spans the area where the stock spare tire sits (the spare would have to be relocated). That plate would bolt to the two side sections and the rear crossmember, and keep the rear end from hanging up on stumps, etc. It would in effect run from side to side, and from the rear crossmember all the way to the rear panhard. if it was "deep" enough, it could also be a good place to relocate the battery, and/or put air tanks and/or a rear winch:

I really like the look of the first pic in this post. That's pretty well the style I have been leaning towards. I need to find a source for a spindle and sleeve to do a tire carrier or whatever too, if anyone knows of somewhere local post up!

I agree with your reasoning for not wanting to remove the rear cross member. I will be coming up with something that runs forward towards the wheel, and it tied into the frame. The whole point is to have something that will take a good hit and not move up to contact the body. And of course I'll integrate some good recovery points. The full width pan between the frame rails might be interesting. Could probably be made with 1/4" plate and a couple ribs and be just as strong, with less weight. Keep the great ideas coming!

Jason

 

[IronYuppy]

...I need to find a source for a spindle and sleeve to do a tire carrier or whatever too, if anyone knows of somewhere local post up!....

I'm pretty sure these guys in Vancouver offer a spindle kit (but I don't see one on their site):

OTT Industries - the originals

 

[hill]

Jason.. i want one!!! tire swing out, and 2" sleeve integrated into the bumper as well. WOO HOO.. finally candian fabrication!!

 

[d0ubledown]

jason...im still in for a bumper as well. can you get metal sheet bent? have a look at the wildyoats bumper..its slick! i also like the looks of the 1st pic IY posted...kinda 4x4 labs-ish. would be willing to help make them too..im good with a grinder still learning with a welder though...

and im all for keeping the xmember..however maybe beefing it up some as i use those 4 bolt holes for my pintle hitch...

keep us updated!

 

[Cruisin']

jason...im still in for a bumper as well. can you get metal sheet bent? have a look at the wildyoats bumper..its slick! i also like the looks of the 1st pic IY posted...kinda 4x4 labs-ish. would be willing to help make them too..im good with a grinder still learning with a welder though...

and im all for keeping the xmember..however maybe beefing it up some as i use those 4 bolt holes for my pintle hitch...

keep us updated!

I'm thinking the rear bumper will end up looking somewhat like a mix of the one in the IY post and the wildyoats design. The caps are going to be coming off my truck in the next couple days, then I can get busy with the cardboard. I like the high clearance setup with pretty good angles toward the bottom of the truck.

DD, I might take you up on the offer of some help. Two minds always helps with the creative design work. Prolly really dive into it in a week or so. I got family coming out this weekend.

I'll post up as progress warrants

Jason

 

[hill]

cruizin check out the drawings of the tube rear bumper on page one...

 

[Enigma]

I need to find a source for a spindle and sleeve to do a tire carrier or whatever too, if anyone knows of somewhere local post up!


Jason

Not local, but 4x4labs sells spindle assemblies, and other parts, individually.

 

[d0ubledown]

I need to find a source for a spindle and sleeve to do a tire carrier or whatever too, if anyone knows of somewhere local post up!

Jason

you could try contacting taran over at bigcountrycustoms.com when i was getting my sliders for my 4runner done..he was mocking some up for his bumpers. im sure he's still got a line on them from his machinist.

in the US, slee, 4x4labs and rocklogic spindles seem to be the best. the rockstomper ones have had repoted failures..so probably best to avoid.

i tried to remove my bumperwings the other day. low n behold...i snapped a bolt so ill let the rest of the bolts sit in some penetrating fluid for a few days. have you had any issues with cops and no bumper wings? id imagine being JDM and no rear tire coverage..they'd be all over ya.

hows your bumper sketches comin along? have you cut any cardboard out yet?

 

[Cruisin']

I cut out cardboard templates the other day. I attached a couple of pics as a bit of a teaser. I'm pretty pleased with how its turning out so far. Any suggestions are welcome, and the ones I like might get incorporated

I haven't gotten any spindles yet. Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll check them out and order some up shortly.

Sonny, I haven't had any problems running with no bumper corners, but I drive slow and try to stay under the radar. It will ease my mind a bit to have them done though.

-Jason