Cheapest specifically designed intercooler for 80 series. (1 Viewer)

[syche]

Hi all,

For the scoop, some use isuzu trooper 3l diesel scoop, adn some nissan patrol gr Y61.

Others have customs or subaru impreza scoop.

I personally did some test to check up the air flow on the hood. result were..not so good.

To get a minimum flow you need to have teh scoop not further than 750mm from the front grill. after that there is no flow at all.

The scoop, get something with mini opening 30 to 40mm in hight and also wider than the cooler core to cool down the cold end tank aswell.

Well some extra work to really get the best out of it.

Only one regret, the cooler is not 30%bigger, a little shame.

The rest, some small improvement are on the way, i send a lot of pics of all the wrong thing to Warren and he promis me to improve for the next.

 

[mot]

syche,

Thanks for your input!!

To get a minimum flow you need to have teh scoop not further than 750mm from the front grill. after that there is no flow at all.

So, if you mount the intercooler where it's supposed to, meaning where the supplied hardware(s) fit properly, does it put the intercooler not further than 750mm from the front grill???

Only one regret, the cooler is not 30%bigger, a little shame.

The rest, some small improvement are on the way, i send a lot of pics of all the wrong thing to Warren and he promis me to improve for the next.

Again, is Warren promising that the "improved" version will put the intercooler no further than 750mm behind the front grill, as well as making it 30+% bigger, hopefully w/o making it cost 30+% more???

Again, thanks for your input!!

 

[syche]

Hi,

No, The improvement is to be done on all the hardware, the brackets did not fit, Holes not inline, M8 taping missing well some small stuff that make you using 3 hours to install it instead of....10mn.

Also the rear bracket is touching the water pipe going to the dash bord. Some small things to fix, but again, you won't find anything else at this price.

Bigger IC , he worked on a while but did not find something that pleased him, so...

The scoop need to be mounted at 750mm max from the grill, and the cooler is clearly behind that, so you will need to work on an inside hood system.

The cooler is between the middle of the opening of the intake manyfold and up to the fire wall. Placer between the 2 windshill water spray.

I have pics but i can't post, China and my company lock everything.
Send me a MP with mail, i can forward you pictures for posting

 

[Cañonero]

Cañonero, any news? are you shipping them to spain or england?

do you have a link to the site where you got the good deal on the VDO gauges?

cheers

Hello.

We are shipping them to Spain, but in packages of three intercoolers maximum to different parts of Spain.

They don't have any in stock now, so we have to wait for two weeks.

The gauges: www.egauges.com

 

[Cañonero]

Hi,

No, The improvement is to be done on all the hardware, the brackets did not fit, Holes not inline, M8 taping missing well some small stuff that make you using 3 hours to install it instead of....10mn.

Also the rear bracket is touching the water pipe going to the dash bord. Some small things to fix, but again, you won't find anything else at this price.

Bigger IC , he worked on a while but did not find something that pleased him, so...

The scoop need to be mounted at 750mm max from the grill, and the cooler is clearly behind that, so you will need to work on an inside hood system.

The cooler is between the middle of the opening of the intake manyfold and up to the fire wall. Placer between the 2 windshill water spray.

I have pics but i can't post, China and my company lock everything.
Send me a MP with mail, i can forward you pictures for posting

Have you thought of the possibility of installing a fan or a blower to force the air trough the intercooler?

 

[syche]

sure i did, but it would have been better to put it bellow the IC rather than on top of it.

But there is not room enough bellow for that.

If the scoop is at the place written before, it is efficient from 30km/h even from 20. and getting more and more efficient with speeding.

A big would be great for low speed, but it will run almost 100% of the time as it will slow down the natural air flow at higher speed..
This is a compromise to find.

In my case, i will most likely switch to .water to air or frontal IC as i need stroong cooling at very low speed. I am using my 80 for african trips, and in mauritania or lybia, if the sand is soft, you can't reach 40 or 50km/h sometime not even 15.... .

And i really want to take the intake temp down to the ambiant temp

 

[mot]

Here are the pics that I've received from syche:


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[mot]

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syche said:

Some pics are with the small paper ont he hood to show the air flow. Not so clear but understandable i think

Thanks syche!!!

 

[Tapage]

nice nice .. very nice .. thans for the pics .. !

 

[syche]

Hi,

Thanks a lot "Mot" for having posting the pics for me.

Well, as you can see the cooler is just next to the fire wall on the 12v, on the 24v it is almost centered in the engine bay.

So outer scoop and iner airflow drive with a fan and you will get the best of it.

The other idee it to make 2 small scoop just behind the front grill, just like the kdj 9 and 120, this way you have air flow from very low speed as it is a very high pressure area, but you need a serious work to root this air up to the cooler. i work on the idea, but with a fiberglass hood

 

[Tapage]

The other idee it to make 2 small scoop just behind the front grill, just like the kdj 9 and 120, this way you have air flow from very low speed as it is a very high pressure area, but you need a serious work to root this air up to the cooler. i work on the idea, but with a fiberglass hood

please keep us posted with this idea ..

 

[Cañonero]

Hi,

Thanks a lot "Mot" for having posting the pics for me.

Well, as you can see the cooler is just next to the fire wall on the 12v, on the 24v it is almost centered in the engine bay.

So outer scoop and iner airflow drive with a fan and you will get the best of it.

The other idee it to make 2 small scoop just behind the front grill, just like the kdj 9 and 120, this way you have air flow from very low speed as it is a very high pressure area, but you need a serious work to root this air up to the cooler. i work on the idea, but with a fiberglass hood

The Peugeot 405 GTD has the same system as the Kdj120, but much simpler.

 

[Cañonero]

Also, here you can see more scoop designs:

• Ver Tema - Cuestiones técnicas intercooler aire-aire de 4wdbit

 

[mot]

So am I understanding this correctly that if you have the 1HD-FT(E) the intercooler will mount in the middle of the engine/hood, but with the lowly 1HD-T it's gonna sit further back, right up against the firewall and that will make it more challenging to have any (decent) airflow???

And would the lack of airflow (pressure) be remedied, at least somewhat, if the hood was sloped up a tad more? I've seen some people install spacers/washers at the back of the hood which gives it some grade. I'm wondering if that would make any meaningful difference, especially at speed (not while crawling).

And I guess the last resort would be to install a fan or fabricate some sort of fancy ducting run from the front of the hood/vehicle. (Or just do the front mount intercooler).

Any thoughts???

 

[syche]

Yes Mot,

Some spacer in the back of the hood might help to catch more air at the right place as the hood will not be horizontal anymore. But it seriously change the car look. I try to keep it looking at stock as possible. We start to have serious problem with the new cars regulation as soon as something look different, and i don't even say anything regarding tires change and etc witch are.....prohibited now..but..we still try

 

[Tapage]

Both engires are pretty close .. I don't see why ( or how ) one intercooler sits further than the other one .. but anycase ..

If I can buy and install one ( very tempted ) I would add a electric fan under it .. with a interior cab switch ..