CAT in a Tundra

[FirstToy]

HINO designed the latest Tacoma, the last Tundra Double Cab and probably had a lot to do with the new Tundra. I think they do some of Toyota's truck assembly and/or oem supplier

I would guess the diesel will be from HINO as well...

 

[FJTex]

HINO designed the latest Tacoma, the last Tundra Double Cab and probably had a lot to do with the new Tundra. I think they do some of Toyota's truck assembly and/or oem supplier

I would guess the diesel will be from HINO as well...

Assembly for the Tundra is done in San Antonio, Tx by Toyota, but i wouldnt be surprised if Hino did some OEM supply for it. especially on the transmission and rear end gearing.

 

[lowenbrau]

I'd love to see some references for the claims about Hino helping out with the design of the Taco and Tundra. That would be interesting news to me.

The Tundra tranny has very little to do with Hino exept that it is manufactured by another Toyota controlled company, Aisin, which also supplies all of Hino's autos.

 

[diesel junkie]

I remember when Hino started selling dump trucks over some years back, as you would expect we put hitches on them for the dump trailers etc and they would puke diffs.
Got the hino guys over and they said they werent designed to tow, thats all changed now but Hino doesnt do anything to ring my bell, yeah i know most large yota diesel blocks are Hino.
On a par with Nissan but isuzu on the other hand is a different story:diggers,forklifts and a mile of other stuff not to mention the many different cars & trucks.

 

[BFletch]

I have been seeing alot of advertisements also with Cat and Toyota in them. I think some of the ads like this are due to Cat sponsoring one of the Toyota teams in nascar. Dale Blaney I believe.

 

[FirstToy]

The Tacoma is the eighth generation of a long line of Toyota compact trucks dating back to 1964. It was developed largely by Toyota's Hino truck manufacturing subsidiary in Japan, with major input from Toyota's technical centre in Ann Arbor, Michigan. It is now being assembled at New United Motor Manufacturing Inc., the Toyota/General Motors joint venture manufacturing facility in Fremont, California, as well as at Toyota's new plant in Baja, Mexico.

In 1966, Toyota acquired Hino, which built trucks; commercial trucks from Toyota still carry the Hino name.

Hino currently makes a wide variety of heavy trucks and buses, and was involved in designing and/or producing the Tacoma, T100, 4Runner (HiLux Surf), Sequoia, and Tundra.

Hino Motor Ltd., which has been producing heavy- and medium-duty trucks commercially since 1946, and which happens to be a Toyota affiliate (Toyota owns 50.1% of Hino Motor), assisted in the development of the '07 Tundra. It also participated in chassis development for the Land Cruiser and Seq

 

[97 FZJ80]

Then came the Tundra. It was a marked improvement with the 4.7 V8 but again it was competing with a 6 litre and cost a bunch more. There never was a contractor version. I think they all came with power everything. Now the new Tundra is inching closer.

Just want to set the record straight. In the US, Tundra is available in various base models with standard cab, 8 ft bed with V6 manual, V6 auto, or V8 auto, for under $20k. These contractors models are equipped with vinyl interiors and manual windows. I have a relative that runs a fleet of trucks for their businesses, and they've selected the Tundra standard cab for their fleet. The closest competitor was Chevy and it has a higher total cost.

FWIW, for anything over 1/2 ton usage, including the requirements for towing, the Ford and Chevy will run circles around the Toyota. For straight 1/2 ton requirements, the Toyota is comparable in initial cost. In the long term cost, including operating cost and resell value, the Toyota is clearly the winner here.

 

[ginericLC]

Cat was working on a light duty truck diesel in the mid 90s. They were going up against Isuzu for a GM contract to produce the next GM diesel. I do not know what the final results of their work was though.

I think it is silly to speculate on what Toyota will do in US. Only they know what they will do. If you want to speculate look at their recent purchase of Isuzu Stock. Maybe they are looking for some of Isuzu's diesel technology?

I'm hopeful that they will do something big. And I really hope it isn't some hybrid/gasoline wonder. Other than that, there isn't much one can say. My hopes aren't what sells cars for Toyota.

 

[HZJ60 Guy]

I went and looked at Tundras yesterday at a Toyota Truck-a-thon. Impressive truck. Trouble is its a half ton, no manual trans and no diesel. They need to fix those things if they are going compete with Phord, Dodge and Chebby.

 

[Tapage]

I went and looked at Tundras yesterday at a Toyota Truck-a-thon. Impressive truck. Trouble is its a half ton, no manual trans and no diesel. They need to fix those things if they are going compete with Phord, Dodge and Chebby.

Only half ton . ? damn ! with this huge rear axle .. who's underestand Toyota ..

 

[trainrech]

Only half ton . ? damn ! with this huge rear axle .. who's underestand Toyota ..

Show me a Ford/Chevy/Dodge "1/2" ton which has a 10K tow capacity and 1 ton bed capacity...

My '04 F150, per the mfg of the brake pads, is not equipped to stop itself with any load. Figure that out.

That said, we are going to strongly consider the contractor grade Tundras to replace the Chevy 2500 and Ford F250's as they age out of our fleet.

 

[Gold Boy]

when i get into the new truck market "when"...

i'm goin to get one of those mitsu fg's....

just sayin that's all...

 

[86rocktoy]

I have heard from some that CAT made a small 4 cyl. diesel that some where wondering if they could drop it into their Toyota mini truck...Anyone else heard about this small CAT?

 

[lowenbrau]

I have heard from some that CAT made a small 4 cyl. diesel that some where wondering if they could drop it into their Toyota mini truck...Anyone else heard about this small CAT?

It'll be a Perkins likley. The smallest CAT is something like the 3106

 

[ToyotaDon]

Toyota rep echoed Hino, with Toyota's part-ownership the principal reason given.
Remember that "half-ton" is a loosely used term, the payload rating is 1,585 - 2,060 lb. and towing capacity 10,100 - 10,800 lb. depending on body style and 4X2 or 4X4.
Look at Toyota.com, check out all the things they own, they're huge!

 

[83bj60]

HINO designed the latest Tacoma, the last Tundra Double Cab and probably had a lot to do with the new Tundra. I think they do some of Toyota's truck assembly and/or oem supplier

I would guess the diesel will be from HINO as well...

IIRC and unless it's been said before here... The FJ Cruiser is also built by Hino...

 

[Tapage]

Show me a Ford/Chevy/Dodge "1/2" ton which has a 10K tow capacity and 1 ton bed capacity...

My '04 F150, per the mfg of the brake pads, is not equipped to stop itself with any load. Figure that out.

That said, we are going to strongly consider the contractor grade Tundras to replace the Chevy 2500 and Ford F250's as they age out of our fleet.

Why no rated so as 3/4 or 1 ton .. ? if you gonna replace your F250 that it's rated 3/4 ton ?

 

[HZJ60 Guy]

How about the new 4.7 liter V8 diesel that they're putting in the current land cruiser? It is a half ton truck after all???

 

[lowenbrau]

How about the new 4.7 liter V8 diesel that they're putting in the current land cruiser? It is a half ton truck after all???

I'd like to see this motor in the half ton Tundra. It isn't powerful enough in its current tuning to compete with the Powersmoke, Duramax or Cummins but none of the big 3 make a diesel half ton. There is a market for folks who want to run diesel or bio and don't need to be able to tow 20,000lbs. Some guys on the TDregister have been asking for a 3.9 Cummins of the Dakota for years.

 

[Tapage]

How about the new 4.7 liter V8 diesel that they're putting in the current land cruiser? It is a half ton truck after all???

4.5 single turbo intercooler .. but it's only 205 HP