Can't buy the bumper I want, so I'm going to build it... (1 Viewer)

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looks great. Way to show Slee how to do it :flipoff2: , then again Slee has about 50X the stuff to do. I guess I didn't see the post or info, but what is the weight of the bumper?
 
looks great. Way to show Slee how to do it :flipoff2: , then again Slee has about 50X the stuff to do. I guess I didn't see the post or info, but what is the weight of the bumper?

LOL. No intent to take any of his business by any means, but I've been waiting (with so many others) for his bumper (or any option other than just ARB) that just seems like it's never going to materialize. Now that TJM is off the market, there's plenty of room for some additional "mom&pop shops" in addition to ARB and slee - really not much else out there. Looking to just help some fellow cruiser heads out.

I'll have the weight tomorrow, with and without the winch plate, before powder coating.

FYI: Sales of bumpers and kits will be operated under an LLC (in Alabama) and will have a website with pics, prices, etc and Paypal payment acceptance up and running in January. I'll be adding sliders and a rear bumper w/o carrier to the offerings as well!
 
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LOL. No intent to take any of his business by any means, but I've been waiting (with so many others) for his bumper (or any option other than just ARB) that just seems like it's never going to materialize. Now that TJM is off the market, there's plenty of room for some additional "mom&pop shops" in addition to ARB and slee - really not much else out there. Looking to just help some fellow cruiser heads out.

I'll have the weight tomorrow, with and without the winch plate, before powder coating.

FYI: Sales of bumpers and kits will be operated under an LLC (in Alabama) and will have a website with pics, prices, etc and Paypal payment acceptance up and running in January. I'll be adding sliders and a rear bumper to the offerings as well!

is there a price range for the ready made bumper?
 
As for shipping, I could do FedEx Freight, UPS Freight, or Greyhound. We have a shipping dock and daily pickup of both companies, and the Greyhound terminal is literally around the corner from the office.

The only problem with shipping completed bumpers will be protecting the finish during transport.
 
As for shipping, I could do FedEx Freight, UPS Freight, or Greyhound. We have a shipping dock and daily pickup of both companies, and the Greyhound terminal is literally around the corner from the office.

The only problem with shipping completed bumpers will be protecting the finish during transport.

I'm assuming that the completed bumpers will be a direct bolt on with no drilling or modifications required?

I don't think getting a scratched up bumper due to shipping is the least of anyone's concern cos people are gonna scratch these bumpers up on the trails:cheers:
 
At this point, you don't have to cut off the front frame horn, but you would have to drill one 1/2" hole in each frame rail for the winch mounting plate - easy stuff. The bumper uses the stock tow points under the frame rail along with a "wrap" up and over the top of the frame for additional strength.

I wouldn't want any damage to the PC in shipping to make sure that the finish is durable and didn't get any moisture under the coating. Once you get rust started under the PC, it will flake off over time. Surface scratches are no biggie. Protecting against coating damage and/or bent steel is the intent.
 
my arb had a few rub's thru the PC from the cardboard box...then again it DID come from OZ.
 
Mine had a few as well. If a person needs a steel bumper and improved approach angles, its GOING to get banged up a bit and scuffed up. I dont think the buyers will care about cardboard and styrofoam rubbing against it dulling the shine of the PC to the point of not buying it. Trust me, enough bubble wrap will protect :)
 
At this point, you don't have to cut off the front frame horn, but you would have to drill one 1/2" hole in each frame rail for the winch mounting plate - easy stuff. The bumper uses the stock tow points under the frame rail along with a "wrap" up and over the top of the frame for additional strength.

I wouldn't want any damage to the PC in shipping to make sure that the finish is durable and didn't get any moisture under the coating. Once you get rust started under the PC, it will flake off over time. Surface scratches are no biggie. Protecting against coating damage and/or bent steel is the intent.

ohhhh are you still planning to sell the CAD files on a CD? would that include the dimensions to all mounting points?
 
mmmm, no CAD files or prints with dimensions at this time - just bumpers. I have a welder that needs the work, and to be honest there's no way to ensure that the plans/directions wouldn't be distributed beyond the original purchaser, making them obsolete as soon as someone just posted them on the 'net. A LOT of work has gone into the developement and fitting in order to get to the point of fabrication, and there's not even a set of finalized CAD files yet. To be honest, $400 + shipping for the steel already CNC cut and bent is probably cheaper than most people out there would be able to get the work done at a shop if they walked in the door with a CAD file on a CD, and that option will be viable in another month or so as the kinks are worked out and jigs are built for consistency.
 
mmmm, no CAD files or prints with dimensions at this time - just bumpers. I have a welder that needs the work, and to be honest there's no way to ensure that the plans/directions wouldn't be distributed beyond the original purchaser, making them obsolete as soon as someone just posted them on the 'net. A LOT of work has gone into the developement and fitting in order to get to the point of fabrication, and there's not even a set of finalized CAD files yet. To be honest, $400 + shipping for the steel already CNC cut and bent is probably cheaper than most people out there would be able to get the work done at a shop if they walked in the door with a CAD file on a CD, and that option will be viable in another month or so as the kinks are worked out and jigs are built for consistency.


The steel pieces that are bent and cut in the package would have instructions right? I dont have any kind of welding equipment so I'd have to go to some kind of shop to get it done
 
Most definitely. CAD sketches of how they fit together, etc, step-by-step text along with pics, etc. Just no scale drawings with dimensions, etc. If someone wants to copy it, they'll have to get their hands on one to copy the dimensions, just like they would have to do for an ARB, etc...

There will be 6 main welds, putting the 5 "skin" panels together to form the bumper. No welding for the frame bracket or winch plate - those will be cut, drilled, and pressed to shape ready to install. There would be two minor welds for the pieces that hold the fog lights in place.

For you to take your truck (with bare frame) and the parts to a shop, you could expect to be charged about 3-4 hours to tack everything up, take the bumper off your truck and finish out the welds - and that's with a stick machine. MIG would be considerably quicker. Any more and it would be a ripoff. Add in an hour to clean the seams up and put a tiger-paw on the edges and you'd be ready to head to the paint booth of PC shop for coating. Realistically, the amount of work will be 2-3 hours, but you have to add in a little time for them to sort thru the pieces, read the directions, etc as they go along, cutting down on productivity.
 
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Most definitely. CAD sketches of how they fit together, etc, step-by-step text along with pics, etc. Just no scale drawings with dimensions, etc. If someone wants to copy it, they'll have to get their hands on one to copy the dimensions, just like they would have to do for an ARB, etc...

There will be 6 main welds, putting the 5 "skin" panels together to form the bumper. No welding for the frame bracket or winch plate - those will be cut, drilled, and pressed to shape ready to install. There would be two minor welds for the pieces that hold the fog lights in place.

For you to take your truck (with bare frame) and the parts to a shop, you could expect to be charged about 3-4 hours to tack everything up, take the bumper off your truck and finish out the welds - and that's with a stick machine. MIG would be considerably quicker. Any more and it would be a ripoff. Add in an hour to clean the seams up and put a tiger-paw on the edges and you'd be ready to head to the paint booth of PC shop for coating. Realistically, the amount of work will be 2-3 hours, but you have to add in a little time for them to sort thru the pieces, read the directions, etc as they go along, cutting down on productivity.

I will definitely contact you regarding ordering the pieces for the bumper instead of the entire bumper.
 
Any completed photos?

As for shipping them, screw the powdercoat and ship them raw. Then the buyer can paint or powder coat it to their specs without any worry of shipping damage.
 
Shipping bare will be an option for sure. Only problem the buyer will have to understand is that I live on the Gulf Coast, so a mild film of surface rust will be present. I'll have to work out the details on that when I get there.

First things first - assembly...
 
The steel pieces that are bent and cut in the package would have instructions right? I dont have any kind of welding equipment so I'd have to go to some kind of shop to get it done

at the cost of the COMPLETED bumper compared to the "kit", the money spent driving around trying to find a competent welder, labor, driving to a powdercoater and the works it just makes sense to get it finished. The welder/designers that teamed up to make the bumper in the first place will make your bumper better then whoever you farm it out to since they'll have done it a few times already. I understand you're trying to save a buck here and there but if you dont already have the welding equipment or have a close buddy that would do it for beer I'd get the full thing. It's just doesnt make financial sense, since you could be spending all that time going back and forth working instead, time is money.

That's just my opinion, I havent seen the welds yet ;)

GIVE US PICTURES!
 

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