Can the coolbox be installed on the Heritage? (1 Viewer)

[bloc]

So that “report” that you are basing on was based on what then? Eyeballing?


If the semi aniline has poor durability, then Toyota would have made improvement throughout the LC line up... just like the KDSS bolt.

I’m trusting other user’s experience because I don’t have a 16 to compare.

I never said semi aniline has poor durability. Besides.. the KDSS bolt fix was about 9 years too late and didn’t even address the ultimate problem, which is the bare metal face corroding into dust.

 

[Madtiger]

I’m trusting other user’s experience because I don’t have a 16 to compare.

I never said semi aniline has poor durability. Besides.. the KDSS bolt fix was about 9 years too late and didn’t even address the ultimate problem, which is the bare metal face corroding into dust.

Well, you even said it yourself...the other user’s (ONE person) experience is based on nothing....because it was apparently an opinion made even BEFORE Heritage Edition came out. Why do you keep repeating that as a “source” To your claim? How does one come to a conclusion on leather durability on a car that has NOT come out yet at the time of opinion?? LOL

Have you seen some of the leather conditions on USED LCs from before 2016? They are not that pretty. Somehow you think that semi-aniline is less durable.

And we don’t even know if Heritage Ed has the same leather as pre-2016 leather! Where do you get this info from?

KDSS bolt is an upgrade to an area that clearly had issue. I am not sure if there is a solution to that issue...i am not car engineer. BUT, again, how do you know that the change in KDSS bolt won’t work?? Has there been a 2018+ LC‘s KDSS bolt that has corroded to dust like previous years?

Why do you love to make these kinds of leap of faith conclusions?

 

[Madtiger]

What is semi-aniline leather? Read: Semi-Aniline Leather...what is it?

 

[geddon01]

Fact: Heritage Edition leather is not as nice as the base edition leather.

This is the first time I have ever read this after researching post-16 200s for a while. Is this documented anywhere, or is it just based upon people looking/feeling the HEs next to base models? Sorry if we are getting too off topic here.

 

[bloc]

Well, you even said it yourself...the other user’s (ONE person) experience is based on nothing....because it was apparently an opinion made even BEFORE Heritage Edition came out. Why do you keep repeating that as a “source” To your claim? How does one come to a conclusion on leather durability on a car that has NOT come out yet at the time of opinion?? LOL

Have you seen some of the leather conditions on USED LCs from before 2016? They are not that pretty. Somehow you think that semi-aniline is less durable.

And we don’t even know if Heritage Ed has the same leather as pre-2016 leather! Where do you get this info from?

KDSS bolt is an upgrade to an area that clearly had issue. I am not sure if there is a solution to that issue...i am not car engineer. BUT, again, how do you know that the change in KDSS bolt won’t work?? Has there been a 2018+ LC‘s KDSS bolt that has corroded to dust like previous years?

Why do you love to make these kinds of leap of faith conclusions?

About the leather: I am really enjoying how worked up you are getting over this.

KDSS bolts: the lower face of the valve didn’t change and ultimately that is the problem. The new bolt will probably do marginally better but for those 200s driven in salty areas that don’t have a coating applied I predict plenty of those “improved” screws hopelessly stuck as well.

 

[Madtiger]

This is the first time I have ever read this after researching post-16 200s for a while. Is this documented anywhere, or is it just based upon people looking/feeling the HEs next to base models? Sorry if we are getting too off topic here.

HE does NOT have semi-aniline leather...confirmed by Toyota specs and Eric. Now, is it less quality?? I do not know.

But to say that HE leather is more durable is just nonsensical. To say that it is less durable is equally so.

BUT, semi-aniline leather is very soft and durable...see my link above. It is basically the highest quality leather one can have in a production car.

 

[Madtiger]

About the leather: I am really enjoying how worked up you are getting over this.

KDSS bolts: the lower face of the valve didn’t change and ultimately that is the problem. The new bolt will probably do marginally better but for those 200s driven in salty areas that don’t have a coating applied I predict plenty of those “improved” screws hopelessly stuck as well.

It is not getting worked up...it is about getting facts straight. I am ALWAYS this enthusiastic way.

Time will tell with the 2018+ KDSS bolts. Being ”marginally” better is still better than having nothing, Right?

 

[geddon01]

HE does NOT have semi-aniline leather...confirmed by Toyota specs and Eric. Now, is it less quality?? I do not know.

But to say that HE leather is more durable is just nonsensical. To say that it is less durable is equally so. BUT, semi-aniline leather is very soft and durable...see my link above.

Thanks for the reply. I obviously have no idea about durability, but it strikes me as kind of amusing that Toyota advertised the "bronze stitching" on the seats without mentioning that the quality of the leather was changed...

 

[bloc]

It is not getting worked up...it is about getting facts straight. I am ALWAYS this enthusiastic way.

Time will tell with the 2018+ KDSS bolts. Being ”marginally” better is still better than having nothing, Right?

Fact: Multiple people that have actually owned both report the earlier leather being more durable.
Fact: Heritage leather isn’t semi-aniline or advertised to be anything special.

Reasonable assumption: HE leather appears to be the same as the earlier standard leather..

...that multiple people report being more durable.


In a few years tell a Pennsylvania 2018 landcruiser owner that has to pay multiple thousands of dollars to get their dissolved KDSS valve block replaced that at least the screws were improved.. that’s better than nothing, right? (Smiley)

Don’t be surprised if they want to punch you in the throat.

 

[Madtiger]

Thanks for the reply. I obviously have no idea about durability, but it strikes me as kind of amusing that Toyota advertised the "bronze stitching" on the seats without mentioning that the quality of the leather was changed...

Yes, they did tell there was a change......they left out “ semi-aniline” in the description.

Fact: Multiple people that have actually owned both report the earlier leather being more durable.
Fact: Heritage leather isn’t semi-aniline or advertised to be anything special.

Reasonable assumption: HE leather appears to be the same as the earlier standard leather..

...that multiple people report being more durable.


In a few years tell a Pennsylvania 2018 landcruiser owner that has to pay multiple thousands of dollars to get their dissolved KDSS valve block replaced that at least the screws were improved.. that’s better than nothing, right? (Smiley)

Don’t be surprised if they want to punch you in the throat.

Multiple people? Who? dnh1? Link To these “multiple people”?

How is that reasonable assumption? Ya know what is reasonable assumption...reading up on semi-aniline leather and what it actually is.

You a time traveler? Been watching too much Time Traveler’s Wife?

Why don’t we talk about that when that time actually comes? Let’s see if the change helps. Why get your panties in a bind so early? Is that not reasonable?

 

[bloc]

Side note: no longer on topic of putting a cool box into a HE. If OP follows through please post with final cost.