goatbeaver said:
Really? I think there is a lot of conjecture and speculation and very little statistical data on that point.
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Really? I think there is a lot of conjecture and speculation and very little statistical data on that point.
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They decided on selling it because of the smoking deal he ran across on the newer 2004 and the 5 spd transmission, and the fact it has 60k less miles.
If I was buying a 100 for less than 10 grand and it was for ME to drive and play in, then the mileage wouldn't scare me. I would rather pay $6k for that 99 with 324,000 miles on it than pay $10k+ for a SxS 4wheeler (mule, raptor, gator). Would I buy that truck for my daughter to drive?.....no.
I posted my brothers truck as an example that, to me, a 110,000 miles less would only cost $2500 more. If you could buy 110000 miles for $2500, would you?
https://forum.ih8mud.com/100-series-cruisers/501772-2000-trans-status-2011-update.html#post6822293
you can start here. Sure there is not too much statical data out there but the majority of tranny failures on mud have occurred on 2000's
there are a ton of LC's out there why put yourself more at risk buying a 2000?
I am not a professional risk assessor, but for me, 23 failures out of a population of 1800 is not a major concern.
I guess you could get a 2003, but they are much more expensive, and the dashboard design is kind of cheesy (built-in nav).
You could get a 99, but they do not have ATRAC.
The bottom line is that every model year has pros and cons; overall the Landcruiser is an extremely reliable vehicle.
Tacoma should go for a long test drive, and if that whine disappears after it warms up, then it is just the normal T-case whine.
2000 was an awesome year for the LandCruiser, it will be like a night and day difference b/w the LC and the Tacoma
goatbeaver said:
Sorry Goat, but you're using an enthusiast forum where people bitch about vehicle problems incessantly. There is often the silent majority who don't discuss the problem they are NOT having. Users don't post "hey I've got 200k on my car and the transfer case DIDN'T fall out". They will definitely post all day about a drive line thud, window regulators or if they had a trans failure.
Scaring someone out of a particular model because you read a thread where .02% of the posters (in an enthusiast forum) had a trans problem isnt helping the new guys. That sounds like a normal failure rate to me in any model.
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2003 and 2005 LC price difference of almost 5K?
Probably not what you're thinking though! I'm looking at an 03 LC 100 and an 05 LC 100, same color, same options, very close in miles on the odometer, etc.... the 2003 is 5k more than the 2005 and I can't figure out why. I don't mean the actual price of the vehicle I mean the value of it on KBB if I go through a dealer. Same vehicles are just over 3K different if I go through a private party.
I can't see any huge difference in the year models and if the 2005 is less expensive then I know which route I'm going for our LC purchase.
Probably not what you're thinking though! I'm looking at an 03 LC 100 and an 05 LC 100, same color, same options, very close in miles on the odometer, etc.... the 2003 is 5k more than the 2005 and I can't figure out why. I don't mean the actual price of the vehicle I mean the value of it on KBB if I go through a dealer. Same vehicles are just over 3K different if I go through a private party.
I can't see any huge difference in the year models and if the 2005 is less expensive then I know which route I'm going for our LC purchase.
That makes no sense...
where there is smoke there is fire and i don't see many threads stating issues with other year trannys, only 2000's.
im steering him away because he stated there is already a whine in the transmission, could be nothing could be something. Would you take the risk?
2003 with Engince Cover Missing
There is a local 2003 that seems to be priced reasonably. However, it is missing the plastic engine cover. I don't know if the TB has been replaced, but that seems pretty odd. Any toughts?
There is a local 2003 that seems to be priced reasonably. However, it is missing the plastic engine cover. I don't know if the TB has been replaced, but that seems pretty odd. Any toughts?
i took mine off and threw it away. i wouldn't worry about it.
I know it. Try running two vehicles through KBB and differ only the years (03 and 05) and see what you come up with. I did it twice and got the same differences. If it's accurate I'm going to use that information tomorrow when I go to Grand Forks to look at a few.
I wouldnt take the risk on THAT particular example if indeed it's the trans or xfer case. I would and did on a MY2000 truck.
The reason you are seeing more MY 2000 trans issues is because Toyota sold twice as many than the two previous or following years - It's the most popular 100 series by sales of any year.
no the reason you see more 2000 LC tranny issues is because they changed manufacturers during the year. They discovered there was a defect in the parts they were using from one of their manufactures, which they decided to use in 2000, and switched back to using Araco and the problem went away. the question is, which tranny do you have when you own a 2000? Some of the trannys went at 30K, some went at 65K and some went over 100K. You just don't know. But the common denominator is when they switched back to Araco the problem went away.
transmission paranoia
Here is a good thread about paranoia.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/100-series-cruisers/279831-2000-land-cruiser-transmission-failure-3.html
To each his own, I guess.
Here is a good thread about paranoia.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/100-series-cruisers/279831-2000-land-cruiser-transmission-failure-3.html
To each his own, I guess.
Once again another thread filled will no facts and lots of assumptions and conjecture.
quit taking this personally. Face, the majority of people who have had tranny failures owned a 2000 year land cruiser. Fact, Toyota changed manufactures of certain tranny parts mid year and the failures stopped. Fact, bees can smell fear
I agree with you 100% about bees and fear.
This could be the subject of a whole new thread.
RobB said:
It's usually the transfer case, and it has to be cold cold out -- like below 20 degrees.
Hi all, longtime lurker in the 80 section and have been looking to add a 100. Found a 2000, 135k, original owner, no accidents, clean title. Has records, needs tires. $10.5k decent? Thanks
goatbeaver said:
I'm not taking it personally. You stated something like it's a fact. I disagree on the that point... That it's a fact.
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