Buying/Selling - what year, how much, etc. - ask for opinions here
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My opinion is that 80's and 100's are being highly overvalued by those trying to sell them. Gas is only going to get more expensive, and people actually believe they can justify asking $12k+ for a '96-00 80's and 100's with 150k miles on them? Advice to buyers: wait until June, and see the prices go down where they should be. Buy now, and make a seller truly happy, but be kicking yourself come June.
Shopping for 100...need advice.
New to the 100 forum! Good day all.
I test drove a 100 Saturday. The vehicle drove nice however I was a bit surprised to hear a knocking sound for a few minutes when I started it. It was about 40 degrees out that afternoon. I didn't even want to drive it in the beginning but the salesman was returning from the office with my ID. Long story short is there anything discerning that would distinguish a manifold problem vs the piston slap? The Porsche dealer indicated they would fix the manifold problem should I buy the vehicle. I'm not sure if I would trust that it would get properly fixed since they didn't even know what it was. The carfax does not suggest that the 90k work was done either. It is a one owner with 99k miles on the clock. I'm very nervous because I have a beautiful red 1997 Collector's edition and I don't want to give up a good running vehicle that I've had for seven years for something that could become prohibitively expensive right out of the gate.
They want 13,890 for theirs with a measly $5k trade in for mine. I have 171k miles on my vehicle.
New to the 100 forum! Good day all.
I test drove a 100 Saturday. The vehicle drove nice however I was a bit surprised to hear a knocking sound for a few minutes when I started it. It was about 40 degrees out that afternoon. I didn't even want to drive it in the beginning but the salesman was returning from the office with my ID. Long story short is there anything discerning that would distinguish a manifold problem vs the piston slap? The Porsche dealer indicated they would fix the manifold problem should I buy the vehicle. I'm not sure if I would trust that it would get properly fixed since they didn't even know what it was. The carfax does not suggest that the 90k work was done either. It is a one owner with 99k miles on the clock. I'm very nervous because I have a beautiful red 1997 Collector's edition and I don't want to give up a good running vehicle that I've had for seven years for something that could become prohibitively expensive right out of the gate.
They want 13,890 for theirs with a measly $5k trade in for mine. I have 171k miles on my vehicle.
manifold problem is common on certain years (not stated in post). Knocking however is NOT common. Sell yours independently, a Porsche dealership does not want your 80 (no offense) and they will just turn around and action it of for what they gave you). Negotiate the 90K service with them as well as new Doug Thorley headers. I'm not sure what year it is, but since you said manifold I'm going to guess a 2000. Give them 12.5K and see. Dealerships don't need big SUV's sitting on their lots, they want them gone so they can bring in the new MPG friendly vehicles and sell those over sticker. Gas is going to be $5 a gallon this summer, they are going to have to adjust their price regardless of how much they have it in.
Thank you both for replying. It is a 1999. The sound was more of a knocking at cold start vs a ticking sound. Some describe the knocking as a manifold leak as well hence the confusion. It lasted for a minute or so. Do I insist that the 90k service get performed by Lexis so that I know for sure corners weren't cut by them? I have a hard time trusting dealers doing what they say they are going to do. Furthermore it would be difficult to know for sure since the weather is warming up and that sound is generated at cold starts.
90K should be done by a certified LC mechanic as its a pretty expensive and a large service. If the engine sits for more than 5 minutes (wether it is 110* or 5* outside) the ticking manifold will come back. Any time that engine is not pumping exhaust out that manifold that little hairline crack will open up. Mine goes away after a few minutes of driving and you can't tell I have a cracked manifold for your life. Once I shut it off to run in and grab a to-go order at a sub shop, man that thing sounds like someone tap dancing on a hardwood floor. One of my friends bought a 100 recently and said they had it running and waiting for him when he got there to test drive it. He drove it and loved it. He buys it same day and takes it home. Calls me the next day and says it sounds broken. I put 2 and 2 together, the dealership had it running so the manifold would not tick and they wouldn't have to bring it up. He signed the paper no warranty as is...
dirty dirty dirty dealerships...
Does the 100 series ride like a truck?
I'm pretty sure I have my cruiser sold.....
Sure this sounds like a dumb question. But does it ride like a truck?
I'm in the market for something new. I'm looking at a 100 series, BMW x5 I'm even considering a infinity fx45. I love the lack of maintenance with the yota/lexus. But the truck like ride of the 80 (after lifting it and such and thenlackknof power) is getting to me........ is the 100 any better? Is it that much quieter, does it handle better?
Thanks
I'm pretty sure I have my cruiser sold.....
Sure this sounds like a dumb question. But does it ride like a truck?
I'm in the market for something new. I'm looking at a 100 series, BMW x5 I'm even considering a infinity fx45. I love the lack of maintenance with the yota/lexus. But the truck like ride of the 80 (after lifting it and such and thenlackknof power) is getting to me........ is the 100 any better? Is it that much quieter, does it handle better?
Thanks
Let me start with this. Landcruiser... enough said. now on to the others
BMW X5 - Absolutely hideous, possibly the most uncomfortable ride, it will smell funky just like every other BMW does in 5 years, no low range, and get ready for break downs. I have driven a lot of X5's. Didn't find one I liked...when you hit the corners it's great, when you mash the gas pedal on the 4.8L it's great. When you take it to the dealership every month, it's not so great.
FX45 - How long could you possibly listen to that moaning V6 all day? I'm sure the incredibly fancy screens will make you happy during the 45 minute test drive while you drive it and love how it has a 3D nav screen and a fabulous sound system. FX45's look like a blind designer sneezed on a piece of paper and they built it.
100 Seires- Toyota has been refining Landcruisers for 60+ years (as you own a cruiser you should know). It's a heavy duty full size vehicle designed to take on the worlds harshest environment. It's extremely capable, versatile, comfortable and rides excellent for such a large vehicle. It's not a high performance SUV like the FX and X5, it's rather a dog in corners and acceleration, guzzles gas like nothing I have ever seen, but honestly. It is a classic looking vehicle, ultra reliable and just plain awesome. The 100 rides extremely well on rough pavement and city streets, highway is, well, the 100's home. It's a king on the highway, it's like your sitting still, stereo is excellent, everything you would/could ever want. Drive them, come back to this thread and tell me I am wrong. You will look back at your 80 and say "oops, damnit, why did I buy this FX/X5???" I would rather pay for a 80 than drive a X5/FX for free.
EDIT: It tows better too.
But to answer your question... NO. The 100 does not drive like the 80. The 80 feels much more truck like. The 100 has a very nice ride to it... unmolested. Once you change the suspension... no idea... could be fine... could be harsh, depending on the components YOU select. I have both and was amazed at how different they feel. Love them both, but VERY different.
I'll have to drive one and see. Although the X5's drive super nice.......
I'm seeing lower prices than even a month ago.
Here's a nice 00 LX with only 54k for $21.5. Private seller is great too...if you're willing put in a ridiculous number at the DMV.
I thought I got a good deal on my 00 LX with 67k for $20k but I'm seeing prices drop quite a bit now.
I just test drove a 100 and it was much more comfortable. I choose the 80 series 7 years ago because of its styling and I've been in the same school of thought as you. I replaced the shocks with LX 450's and it still feels too trucky on non highway driving. This is an ongoing dilemma for me. I have a beautiful Red 97 collector's edition that is very hard to depart with.
The 100 series in stock form rides like a jacked up S class. Smooth as butter. Even a little to smooth for some folks and then you switch to Bilsteins and it rides like a jacked up sporty S class.
I am 40, I have had a 91, 92 and 2 95 80 series. I switched to a 100 for the ride difference, V8 and safety nannies (VSC and A-TRAC). Night and day.
I like the G wagen as well however the solid front axle does not allow the vehicle to drive/ride as good as 100 series.
Go drive one and you will see.
I am 40, I have had a 91, 92 and 2 95 80 series. I switched to a 100 for the ride difference, V8 and safety nannies (VSC and A-TRAC). Night and day.
I like the G wagen as well however the solid front axle does not allow the vehicle to drive/ride as good as 100 series.
Go drive one and you will see.
This is very good to know. I was under the strong impression it would be concealed with warmer weather. The sound emanating from the engine sounded like a knocking and I've never had that on any vehicle previously owned. Oh wait, the last time I heard that I blew a piston rod on a Corrola many moons ago. So the piston slap worries me. The other issue, as you mentioned, is the lack of trust I have with dealers. I have a strong suspicion that they are not going to be interesting in hearing that I don't want their mechanics working on it. There is a Lexis dealer about a block away from them so I'm not sure if Lexis would cut them a deal since they are in the same industry. Not sure how those connections work between dealerships.
collector_edi said:
Sounds like it's worse than a manifold leak. Take it to several dealerships and independent shops, you state piston slap and sounds like a blown piston rod which makes me think it's worse than I'm making it sound. I'd look into the service records. A cracked manifold has a crisp tick, no knocks or creaks. Just a nice sharp tick
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Just a price check for peeps - friend of mine just picked up an '03 with 70k for $24k. It was one of only a very few for sale in the SL Valley.
This is how I felt in '08.....a few months after I bought my 100. I felt like I could've gotten mine for $23 vs. $26 that I paid.
