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curious,
i had a guy show up here a few days back and during our converation he mentioned some guy that has a huge tank on the back of his truck and he just drives into the local Mac and fills up the tank and drives. he run the stuff through some filter setup but that is it.
now i do not know if i should beleive him or not. is this possible?
 
crushers said:
curious,
i had a guy show up here a few days back and during our converation he mentioned some guy that has a huge tank on the back of his truck and he just drives into the local Mac and fills up the tank and drives. he run the stuff through some filter setup but that is it.
now i do not know if i should beleive him or not. is this possible?
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Sure...maybe not quite that simple, but that sounds like a WVO setup. He likely strains the oil going into the tank, and runs a filter or two on it's way to the engine. The WVO tank would have a heat system, he starts and stops the truck on diesel, and switchs to WVO when it is heated to the correct temp.

gb
 
We have now opened our biodiesel pump to others as a sort of club here in the Marin / San Francisco area. IF you want more info email me at longnow@gmail.com
 
Hello,

I am new to this board and was wondering if anyone has run biodiesel through a BJ 40s Land Cruiser.

THANKS
 
rjones25 said:
Hello,

I am new to this board and was wondering if anyone has run biodiesel through a BJ 40s Land Cruiser.

THANKS
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Welcome. I run ~50-80% BioD through my 83 BJ42. Runs great, nice exhaust smell, a really good idea with the low lubricity ultra low sulphur fuel that is coming to market right now. I have noticed a decrease in MPG when I run really high %, as well as a little loss of power.

The one thing to watch out for is of course swelling of fuel lines because these rigs are old and the lines are rubber based. But I've been running BioD for about a year now and I see no swelling or leaks, though when I have the time and $$$ I will probably replace them with Viton placticized lines. However, Greg_B here has said he has seen the filler neck hose 'pooched' by bioD use, so I am planning on replacing that along with the fuel lines.

For a great discussion of fuel lines etc. specifically with regard to TLCs (though not 40 series), see Zander's bioD page--he frequents this board and if fact has a post there a couple posts before this...

http://www.longnow.org/rhino/BioDiesel.htm

HTH
B
 
a really good idea with the low lubricity ultra low sulphur fuel that is coming to market right now.
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If you are referring to Canadian ULSD you've been misinformed. The new Cdn ULSD has lubricity additives to equal the lubricity of old #2 diesel.

That's not to say that adding biodiesel isn't a good idea.
 
Diescipel said:
However, Greg_B here has said he has seen the filler neck hose 'pooched' by bioD use, so I am planning on replacing that along with the fuel lines.B
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Yes, I've seen the filler hose from a BJ42 that was running 100% BD for one year. You could see the metal cords showing, as the rubber had been washed away. I am not sure the impact or timelines with blended BD. All accounts (and there are many more knowledgeble then I in this area) say with smaller ratios you will be fine.

hth's

gb
 
M John Galt said:
If you are referring to Canadian ULSD you've been misinformed. The new Cdn ULSD has lubricity additives to equal the lubricity of old #2 diesel.

That's not to say that adding biodiesel isn't a good idea.
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Roger that. I'm down in the 'States. The regular petrol diesel fuel I use has additives in it to bring up the lubricity. However, when I drive outside my local supplier's region and get random diesel, I like the idea of having a bunch of BioD in there, along with some fuel additive I add myself.

Greg_B said:
Yes, I've seen the filler hose from a BJ42 that was running 100% BD for one year. You could see the metal cords showing, as the rubber had been washed away. I am not sure the impact or timelines with blended BD. All accounts (and there are many more knowledgeble then I in this area) say with smaller ratios you will be fine.
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The problem for me as I see it is that I don't premix the fuel before it goes in the tank, i.e. I'm putting 99.99% bioD straight into the tank to mix with some petrol diesel. In that sense, the filler next 'sees' almost pure BioD, but the fuel lines see the mixture. I've been trying to fill with BioD first, then petrol D to 'wash' out the BioD, but sometimes it's just not possible.

B
 
I'm using blends in all seven of my diesels except for two: my wife's '99 Benz and my '93 Cruiser see B100. The other five see from B33 to B75. I purchase B100 in large quantities and dispense it myself as-needed in the driveway. After I add bioD, I run the vehicle over to a nearby filling station to top off with petroD. Therefore, the last thing the filler neck sees is petroD (on the older vehicles). The newer vehicles have no susceptibility to the B100, so no worries.

At my home, at any given time, I've got between 70 and 200 gallons of B100 available for my use--including hunkering down through hurricane season.
 
rjones25 said:
Hello,

I am new to this board and was wondering if anyone has run biodiesel through a BJ 40s Land Cruiser.

THANKS
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Welcome,

I ran 100% bio in my BJ42 for 3 years before I moved north, and did not have any problems, my lines were still all good, and my brother (jfc) is on his 5th year now (running it in his BJ60), and he hasn't mentioned his lines having any problems yet.

Cheers,
Deny
 
here are some photos of our biodiesel processor. We used an 80 gallong hot wate rheater. We have been building appleseed processors for some time but the small ports are cumbersome so we added a big 1 1/4" port on top and bottom and use a 220V hot tub pump. It literally fills it in 20-30 seconds? Pretty neat..
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The white 15 gallon plastic barrel is our methoxide in barrell where we use air power (with a small regulator) at 2 psi to input the methanol in. Following the line of it out, you'll see there is a one way valve (recommended, otherwise grease gets in the methanol if air is not attached) and a ball valve we use to monitor the flow (very slow) into the actual processor)...

the red barell is our preheater barrell that we also welded and added a 220V heating element but wired it 110.. Then plug it in and it will preheat the oil so it will flow through the processor easier during winter when the grease is otherwise gelatinous...
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dieselcruiserhead said:
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The white 15 gallon plastic barrel is our methoxide in barrell where we use air power (with a small regulator) at 2 psi to input the methanol in. Following the line of it out, you'll see there is a one way valve (recommended, otherwise grease gets in the methanol if air is not attached) and a ball valve we use to monitor the flow (very slow) into the actual processor)...

the red barell is our preheater barrell that we also welded and added a 220V heating element but wired it 110.. Then plug it in and it will preheat the oil so it will flow through the processor easier during winter when the grease is otherwise gelatinous...
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ohhh... more photo's bro... I likie:grinpimp:
 
What kind of quantities of WVO are you guys picking up at restaurants? Are we talking 55 gallon drums or just buckets of the stuff? B/c I imagine getting a drum home would be difficult w/out a trailer?

Just basically curious about how you get all the WVO home.
 
The restaurant I get oil from uses pure non-hydrogenated canola and only cooks fries and battered fish in it. Once a week on Sunday morning when the oil is still warm from Saturday night, they drain the fryer oil into a bucket, then pour it into the 'cubies' the fresh oil comes in. I usually stop by for lunch Sunday afternoon, have a burger and fries cooked in fresh oil, leave a generous tip, and pick up 30 to 45 litres of excellent used veg-oil. They're very proud of the fact that their used fryer oil goes to make renewable diesel fuel instead of into the dump like the other restaurants in town. It's a win-win situation all around. I suppose it could be a hassle if someone needed more oil than that per week.
 
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truth is it is actually quite a pain in the ass to collect grease and the only way I have done it so that it is not is a pretty hefty investment in a good barrell mover, some sort of lift to get it on a truck, and a truck. I have probably collected maybe 1000 or so gallons total, maybe 300 of which with a pump, that SUCKED.. (LOL pun meant by accident...).. Then the bucket method when we were first beginning, maybe 120 gallons or so this way.. That really really sucked. And then with the infrastructure with the truck, a handicapped lift we salvaged, and the barrell mover. Which is a big ass hand truck originally designed for moving tree stumps that we modified for moving the barrells.. I think this method we loaded more than 500 gallons one day :) So that is what I would recommend. then setup a few restaurants, get 2-3 friends involved so you can take turns and brew away.. As i get more photos I'll post up including our wash tank and the barrell mover and the handicap lift we scored..
 
GREAT thread guys!

My next Cruiser will be a diesel for exactly this reason!

A side note: My immediate concern is for Furnace use
I have an older oil fired furnace that runs my baseboard heating and hot water.
I am strongly considering using WVO to run this but I'm not sure it will work.
Can anyone give me more info on using WVO for home furnaces?

Thanks!!!
 
I've been running B99 in my BJ60 for about two months, replaced the fuel filter twice and have hose to do the lines. What I'm wondering is on the connection of the fuel lines to the filter apparatus, did you replace them or did you just fit the new line in and clamp them down? Pics of this would be awesome!

another quick question, Have you run low sulfur diesel in your LC's since running biodiesel? I took a trip from PDX to SLC to Cali and back to PDX running starting with B99 then a mix of dino/bio then low sulfur in the middle of Idaho- lots of smoke, then all the way across nevada and finally back to bio up the coast. Seemed really sluggish on the low sulfur. - probably due to the low lubricity

Cheers
 
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