"Best Value" LX 570? (1 Viewer)

[willc]

I'm mainly window shopping now. Top of the budget would be like $45k. I see some 2016's in that range with 80-100k/miles.

Then I see some 2013-15 models for $26-32k range with 120-150k/miles.

Then I see 2008-2011 models for $18-25k with 180-220k/miles.

I think hmmmm... I could spend 20k on a 2010 and get some wheels and tires, roof rack... that would be cool. But then is my seat going to be worn out and need to be repaired, am I going to have to get the starter done or the valley coolant leak, I'll be renting a car while it's getting fixed... I'll end up being into it for closer to the 2013-2015 price range.

2016 is appealing to me because of the update, i don't hate the big grille, I'd like blindspot monitoring and some of the other driver assist features, but then no $$ for wheels and tires, etc. AND it'll be 45k for a 10 YEAR OLD vehicle (next year). At 45k... there's a lot more vehicle options I'd have to consider that would be 1-3 years old.

I haven't really thought through the 2013-2015 models. I like the looks, they seem nice but they just seem kinda stuck in the middle to me as far as, spend ~10k more and get the 2016 redesign and features, or ~10k less on an older one and have more of a cash cushion for "improvements" and just to have cash on hand.

I understand these aren't budget vehicles, but I think they can be a great value compared to the European. Lower maintenance, better resale, more reliable. So, I'm not trying to sound cheap, just trying to find the sweet spot for buying one.

I have an LX470 now and it was a no brainer for me to get an '06-'07 because it wasn't much more but had the updated transmission, side airbags, more power, etc. With the LX 570 I don't have that same clear path- so please help me think this through!

 

[doru]

I went 13 because I got the most important upgrades for me. Whatever 16 adds is not as important. And when I got mine 3 years ago prices where a bit different, during covid. Even today I'll be hard press to look at 13-15 as the prices are better so with the diff I can use to do whatever. In the big scheme of things $30k or below is a bargain. If you also add all the inflation we've got for past few years it's even cheaper. Age is not calculated the same way for 200's as for most of the cars.

The only thing that the 16 has interesting for me is the ability to use the OEM screen with an aftermarket device to integrate Android Auto. Now I'm using a RoadTop device on top of the OEM screen and although I like this arrangement a lot better (similar to LX600), and the display itself is also a lot better than the 16 OEM display, the integration has holes. But I'm not sure even this would have been a decisive factor to get the 16 given the cost (my budget top was $39k and yours is $45K).

 

[TomEf]

The 8 speed models have a decent chunk of added cost if you plan to do gears and lockers in the future. Depending on your needs, the 8 speed may also alleviate the need/desire to do gears. Something to consider.

 

[doru]

From all that I read here there is no clear overall benefit of the 8 speed over 6 speed. That was my problem back then: should I get the 8 speed? Two more speeds should do something great for the mileage, right? You can search the forum and decide for yourself.

 

[Sandroad]

It would help if you included how it will be used, how long you plan to keep it, why you want tires/wheels, plans for any mods, etc. Your question is a very common one, here are 4 threads to get you started on your own search from what others have recently posted.

LX570 purchase advice wanted | IH8MUD Forum

2013-2015 LX 570 vs 2016+ LX 570 - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/2013-2015-lx-570-vs-2016-lx-570.1335070/

Opinions on 2016-2020 LC/LX570 - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/opinions-on-2016-2020-lc-lx570.1226409/

Looking at a LX570 - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/looking-at-a-lx570.1261090/

 

[Supra Turbo]

IMO '13-15 LCs and LXs are the sweet spot for best bang for the buck. But I'm also not a huge fan of '16+ looks nor nav. I think it all depends on what you want to do with it and what you are trying to get out of it.

Regarding "...AND it'll be 45k for a 10 YEAR OLD vehicle (next year)...". I guess it depends how you look at it. We paid a little over $65k for our 10 year old LC a few years ago.

To us, age isn't really important to us as long as the vehicle has been immaculately maintained, particularly if its a specialty vehicle, such as the LC200.

We also did not care for any of the tech gizmos, in fact no screen would have been even more preferable. The simpler it is, the less things to break and the less the vehicle will look dated longterm.

 

[bloc]

The 13-15 HID headlights are really good with fresh bulbs and careful aiming, but the 16+ LEDs are on another level. If that matters.

Much more flexible radar cruise.

Nav system isn’t touch screen.. have to use the mouse thing. Most people dislike this system. FWIW.

 

[DirtNap]

Sandroad had some good points above about intended use.

• If you plan to wheel the crap out of it off-road, with 34-35's, definitely get the 08-11...you won't feel as bad. There are improvements to the MTS in the 13-15 though and better slow speed cameras
• If you want a luxurious, safe, reliable daily driver, then IMO you don't need new wheels and tires anyway, so why not get the 16+. They can of course go off-road like the rest, but you might "feel the pain" more when it gets scratched up. Plus the bumpers hang lower and less clearance. Might want to look at the roof racks on these vs the older ones...not sure but they might attach differently, so you might have fewer options there??
• IMO, the 13-15 is the sweet spot. Lower Mileage = more time before big things need to be done, improved MTS and touch screen, and a few $$ for 17"18" wheels and 33-35" tires. This is what I did!

 

[tbisaacs]

From all that I read here there is no clear overall benefit of the 8 speed over 6 speed. That was my problem back then: should I get the 8 speed? Two more speeds should do something great for the mileage, right? You can search the forum and decide for yourself.

Gearing of the 8 speed is a massive benefit for running larger tires.

 

[M1911]

I traded in my 2013 Land Cruiser for a 2020 LX. I really, really like the blind spot monitoring system and rear cross traffic alert. I also like the far better headlights, better stereo, quieter cabin, radar cruise control with 1 mph increments instead of 5 mph. The 2020 LX infotainment isn’t great, but it is usable.

Of course my 2020 LX is above your budget. I don’t know what to recommend, other than to get the best one you can afford with the least frame rust.

 

[willc]

I traded in my 2013 Land Cruiser for a 2020 LX. I really, really like the blind spot monitoring system and rear cross traffic alert. I also like the far better headlights, better stereo, quieter cabin, radar cruise control with 1 mph increments instead of 5 mph. The 2020 LX infotainment isn’t great, but it is usable.

Of course my 2029 LX is above your budget. I don’t know what to recommend, other than to get the best one you can afford with the least frame rust.

Nice yes those features seem great. Do you like the seats better? I liked the 2010 seats I drove, but from what I read the 16+ seats are even better. Have you added car play?

 

[M1911]

Nice yes those features seem great. Do you like the seats better? I liked the 2010 seats I drove, but from what I read the 16+ seats are even better. Have you added car play?

I can’t say that I’ve noted much difference in the seats. I have not yet added CarPlay but that is on my list of things to do.

 

[Cruiserhead05]

If you plan to own the vehicle for an extended period, I think holding out for ‘16+ is worth it.

Having extended seat time in an early 200, ‘11 LX and now a ‘16, I believe the extra cost to be worth it.

I can’t speak to the ‘13-‘15 LX models but I liked the feature of my ‘16 enough to encourage you to closely compare these two.

 

[dcs111]

I was in the market a few months ago. Prices may have changed, but I doubt significantly… look closely at salt road exposure and maintenance history. I found that, many of the 16+, in what I considered a good deal range, had a history I didn’t care for… I got tired of waiting for the perfect 08-11 or 16+ (both have been identified for their respective merits)… and moved into the GX platform. If you can be patient, you will be better off

 

[M1911]

I was in the market a few months ago. Prices may have changed, but I doubt significantly… look closely at salt road exposure and maintenance history. I found that, many of the 16+, in what I considered a good deal range, had a history I didn’t care for… I got tired of waiting for the perfect 08-11 or 16+ (both have been identified for their respective merits)… and moved into the GX platform. If you can be patient, you will be better off

The 2020 that I bought was a one-owner car out of GA, no accidents, and the frame is immaculate. Of course, I paid for that.

 

[willc]

I got tired of waiting for the perfect 08-11 or 16+ (both have been identified for their respective merits)… and moved into the GX platform. If you can be patient, you will be better off

Thank you for the heads up on rust. GX would be a great option, but my wife is not a fan unfortunately. My LX 470 is still running like a top so I think I have time!

 

[Alex1118]

This is a great thread because a lot of people end up thinking about these things. I am personally in between a LC and LX570. I greatly prefer the look of the LC over the LX570 BUT there is a big difference from the 13-15 models over the 08-11 models in the LC’s. Prettier interior (married to tan interior), butt coolers, etc. That’s not the case in the LX 570’s…you can go back to 2008 models and save a lot of money on the 2008-2011 570’s over the 13-15 LC’s and there are a LOT more of them.

I guess I turned this into a semi LC vs 570 thread…long story short I am leaning towards a well maintained 2008-2011 model. I missed on a 1 owner 2011 570 with 180k miles on it with literally every single 5000 service at a Lexus store that was retailing it as well (this is big for me - a Lexus store isn’t going to sell a 15 YO truck unless it’s nearly immaculate).

 

[willc]

This is a great thread because a lot of people end up thinking about these things. I am personally in between a LC and LX570. I greatly prefer the look of the LC over the LX570 BUT there is a big difference from the 13-15 models over the 08-11 models in the LC’s. Prettier interior (married to tan interior), butt coolers, etc. That’s not the case in the LX 570’s…you can go back to 2008 models and save a lot of money on the 2008-2011 570’s over the 13-15 LC’s and there are a LOT more of them.

I guess I turned this into a semi LC vs 570 thread…long story short I am leaning towards a well maintained 2008-2011 model. I missed on a 1 owner 2011 570 with 180k miles on it with literally every single 5000 service at a Lexus store that was retailing it as well (this is big for me - a Lexus store isn’t going to sell a 15 YO truck unless it’s nearly immaculate).

Good point about the 08-11 model years. The one I drove was SWEET and I liked the looks. I had an ‘08 GS 350 and it was starting to show its age a bit. Nothing crazy just wear and tear that would be easily remedied with some $$, but then I start having conversations with myself on if it’s worth it to put a few thousand into a 7k car, or just take that few thousand, sell the GS, and roll it into the next vehicle.

I’m trying to avoid that thought for a while with the LX- so I hadn’t been looking at 08-09’s, but you’re right though if it’s well maintained- might be a great value.

 

[Taco Supremo]

The 8 speed and the LED headlights are worth it by themselves IMHO.

 

[pcut]

I traded my '19 LX for a '14 LX and couldn't be happier. I went from a fairly well built 100 series LC to the newer LX after doing a lot of research and talking to some of the old hands here on Mud about the relative advantages and disadvantages of each. I love the AHC system which I mistakenly tore out of the '06 before having Slee do the build. The new one had WAY too much tech for an old luddite like me plus I don't tow so the bigger brakes and 8 spd tranny weren't necessary. If I want the bigger brakes I can add them for around $500. I will say that the seats in the new one were nicer but I wonder how they would hold up if you are camping, kid hauling, dog hauling etc. as they seemed more fragile if that makes sense. I bought mine about a year ago (TX, MT car) with around 47k miles for $42k if that helps your search. I looked for a few months on the usual places before I found exactly what I wanted.
Best of luck.