Bedroom Bathroom Remodel Questions

[TomH]

Put in about 8 hours on Saturday. I wanted to get the house off the temporary supports so it was a day of framing. I'll let the pictures tell the story.

Pic 1: Finished foundation
Pic 2: Framed

 

[TomH]

Time for a long overdue update. I managed to hurt my back doing the foundation work so I was basically forced to take a few weeks off.

I hit it hard last Friday and did the nine feet of foundation on the adjacent wall to the one I had done previously. Same story as before, support the house, clean the foundation, set some rebar, apply some Weldcrete, set the forms and pour the concrete. Pretty uneventful but still put in about 8 hours.

My plan Saturday was to remove the existing bathroom and I mean remove everything except the roof. The bathroom had been added on to the house and the addition was poorly done. there wasn't really anything I could work with and it made the most sense to just tear everything out and start from scratch. So that is what I did. I supported the roof and removed the floor and three walls.

Then I built a pony wall off the foundation and laid the new floor down on top of that. I got one of the exterior walls framed before I ran out of 2x6's and energy. I was about 10 hours into it and would have done the other wall but without the lumber, I decided to cover it up until this weekend. With the amount of work I was trying to get done, I had to hire my brother to help. It would have been difficult to do by myself.

With any luck I'll get the exterior back together and sided. Then I can get back to where I thought I was about six weeks ago - plumbing.

I only have one pic that is (halfway) worth posting. My wife to a bunch but obviously she sucks at picture taking. Then her camera broke (As a side note, I took her camera apart last night and was able to fix it). I'll get some shots Saturday morning before I start and get them posted up later.

Tom

 

[EricG]

That's alot of work! Nice job.

 

[Max.Powerzz]

You'll have some good bones to your home when this is done, great work!

 

[TomH]

Making progress, although a little slower than I'd like. I was on my own again today so things don't get done as quickly. Not much to say. I wrapped up the framing, sheeted the walls and installed the windows. Spent about nine hours on it. I'll let the pictures do the talking.

Pic 1: Basement framing.
Pic 2: Framed walls.
Pic 3: Sheeted with windows installed.

 

[TomH]

I started this thread to get the help with some of the issues with this remodel and now I need some advice.

The various pictures in this thread show the three layers of siding on the house. The first is the original cedar which is about 7/8" thick. The second is the fake brick which is about 3/4" thick. The top layer is asbestos tile.

So, when I framed the new walls, I framed them so the exterior matches the original framing. If you do the math, you'll find that I need to make up 1 1/2" from the framing to install the top layer of siding. That is 2 layers of OSB and layer of 3/4 something.

I really don't want that much sheeting on the house. On the back side, the difference is more like 2 inches so there I am just going to use some 5/4 cedar and wrap it over the mismatch. Should be fine.

I could do the same on the south side but I thought it would look kind of half ass - like I'm trying to cover something up (which of course I am). I also think the extra half inch or so on the back makes it more acceptable.

What to do? I've pretty much set the new wall by installing the window. I did two layers of OSB which matches up perfectly with the original cedar. By doing this, I think I have forced myself to remove all the remaining siding down to the cedar. Doing that requires me remove the two bedroom windows because they have been spaced out 3/4" to match the existing. Again no big deal just takes time. I would also have to redo the interior trim on one of the windows.

This would also set me up to re-side later with hardiplank. I think this is the right way to do things but will certainly add a significant amount of time.

So, any opinions or other ideas?

A couple of pictures.

Pic 1: Back of house (west side). You can see where the new matches up with the old. I think a piece of cedar installed vertically on the old and a small piece ripped to attach to the 2" difference.

Pic 2: South side of house. You should be able to see how nicely 2 layers of OSB matches the cedar. All the siding from the top of the windows down has been removed before. This is about a 25 foot run.

 

[agomez]

2x4 treated battons 2' oc should work or makeup with excess strand board to flush out finished siding...

 

[TomH]

Worked on the house for about 13 hours today. I really didn't like the mismatch in siding so I decided to remove the middle layer - the fake brick. I started out by pulling the remaining tile. I numbered and stacked them in the hopes of using thew same pieces in the same places. We'll see how that works out.

Next was removal of the fake brick. What a dirty job, although not as bad as some of the other jobs on this project. Got it all down, all the nails pulled and the mess loaded into the back of the truck.

Then it was window time and both windows came out easy. Of course then there was the 3/4 strips I had put down to space the window out to match the fake brick. Those were painful to remove. Nail guns are great - unless you want to undo your work. Re-installed both windows and trimmed them out.

The window in the finished room required a little more effort. I pulled the interior trim, ripped about 3/4 of an inch from the pieces that wrapped the window, and nailed everything back together. It will need a little putty and some paint touch-up, but it's all back together.

I also got all the remaining OSB attached. All I have left to do before siding is to trim out the corners and the two bathroom windows. Going to take tomorrow off and hopefully Saturday get all the siding done and call the outside finished. Then it will be back to plumbing.

 

[TomH]

Another 12 hours today. This is where I question my decision to tear all the siding down and redo it, but I still think it was the right decision.

Took me about five hours to trim it all out - that's two windows, two soffits and two corners. I sure thought that part would go quicker. Part of the time was getting the tar paper up. I think I ended up with all my tools out. I kept going down to the basement to get another tool.

Anyway, once I got the trim up the siding went pretty well. Took a little time to get the first row level and then cruised from there. One nice thing about the siding is that it was originally installed incorrectly - with the nail side down. This leaves all the nails exposed but also set the height of each course rather nicely.

Hopefully one more day at it and it's finished.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Looks good. Keep it up & before you know it it will be time for the BBQ celebration.

 

[TomH]

Time for a long overdue update on this project. Life got in the way again and I've only worked on this 5 days since the last posting (2 months). And only one of those days was a full day.

It took a day and a half to finish up the siding - kind of. It still needs to be caulked and the trim needs to be painted but I figure I can do those things when I have an hour here and there. It came out good and I'm happy with the finished product. I think the extra work was worth it.

I spent about half a day getting the bathroom framing wrapped up. Had to put in a header (probably should have waited until I decided on the door) and all the ceiling joists were removed an replaced since none of them were at the same height. I framed the interior wall that I had previously removed and still need to put some screws in the drywall. (When I removed the wall I wanted to leave the drywall up because it was the barrier between that room and the back porch. It worked well - the drywall had been held in place by the taped joints on the top and sides) I also got all the drywall backing in.

Then, this weekend I put up a wall in the basement so I can get going on the plumbing. I need the wall because I plan to add a sink and move the washer next to the dryer. It has been on the other side of the basement since I moved in.

Some pictures:
Pic 1, 2, 3 - siding

 

[TomH]

Bathroom framing.

 

[TomH]

Basement wall

 

[Cookiemonster]

Funny how life gets in the way when your making some progress. Looking good.

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

Nice work, well done...to bad you had to cover it all up

 

[TomH]

Nice work, well done...to bad you had to cover it all up

That's pretty funny actually. Every time I go down to the basement I take an extra minute to admire my work and enjoy the smell of freshly cut OSB.

Hoping to get all (most) of the drain/waste/vent work done this Friday. I think the biggest issue will be dealing with the roof penetrations. I'll have to peel off a bunch of shingles so I can patch the old holes and route the new ones. Then it's on to the copper.

Tom

 

[TomH]

Is there a plumber in the house?

Got started on the DWV last weekend - put in about 12 hours over two days and probably five hours of that was trips to the plumbing store. Fortunately, I have at least four stores within about a mile of my house. Only needed to use two of them though.

The DWV is kind of like putting a puzzle together only there is no set way for it to go. Everything I know about plumbing I learned on the internet so I'm not positive it's all per code. My biggest concern is the shower (not yet finished). I plan to connect it to the top of the original stack with the vent going up about 3 - 4 inches and tying into the washer/utility sink vent shown running along the wall.

Nothing is glued up yet so if anyone sees any obvious problems, please let me know. (The existing system is still sealed up - I haven't tapped into it yet).

I also carefully removed all the singles on the roof to patch up the original vent holes and cut a new one. Haven't put the new shingles down yet. I'll just get something close in color as a new roof is in the not to distant future.

Pic1: Washer/Utility sink.
Pic2: Stack/toilet/vanity and eventually kitchen
Pic3: Bathroom

 

[TomH]

A couple more pictures.

Pic1 is the top of the stack. The shower will come in on one side and the bathroom vanity and kitchen sink will come in on the other. The top outlet will be for the shower vent - specifically - as both sinks will have their own vent. The vent will go up a few inches and then go horizontal and tie into the vent running along the wall.

Pic2 is the connection for the washer/utility sink. I was going to come out the top of the four inch pipe but that ended up being too high for the sink. I'll just cap that one.

 

[TomH]

Who remembers this thread? Hard to believe it's been almost four years since I started this project. How about a long overdue update.

Got the plumbing wrapped up and the bathroom almost finished. Can't do all the finish work until I get the adjacent room done. A little base tile, door jamb, and some touch-up. We really haven't used the shower but all is functional.

Built a temporary kitchen in the bedroom. I knew it would take time to get the kitchen done and with a big family, have to have the kitchen working. We've been in the temp kitchen since about last May. About $500 total to build - mostly plumbing and electrical costs. Cabinets were all free off Craigslist.

Started working on the kitchen an realized that somewhere along the way someone had removed a main support beam for the house. They replaced it with two new beams, one on each side about three feet from where the original beam was located. This left some of the load bearing supports unsupported. Probably would have been just fine but I couldn't let it go, so put in a new beam. This actually opens up the basement a little.

While I was at it, I decided to add another beam where I suspect one was originally located. The exterior wall on the back of the house is supported by posts and no beam. I think this must have been originally supported by a beam but was removed when the basement was added. So this is where I'm at today - working on getting the new beam installed.

Some pictures.

1. Finally got that basement sink I've always wanted. This was a leftover from the store that was part of the house.
2. Bathroom
3. Bathroom

 

[TomH]

Shower.