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Wayne let me know if you would like some help with the cards I am in Calgary and have some experience with design, and have some connections with printers through the company I work in. Might get a better deal?
Jayson
 
Previa Diesel said:
Here is the report TC bases their argument on:

:rolleyes:

NB: Page numbers are odd as French text on even numbered pages has been removed.
Save copies if you want as it may have to go down.:ban:
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so has anyone taken this information and modified it for application? if not i will get on it...
 
Is there going to be a form letter posted we can copy sign and send to our representatives in government?
Where is it going to be posted..??
I want one to sign and send..
 
Form letters do not impress politicians any more than petitions do. My advice is write your own letter in your own words. It doesn't have to be a literary tour de force, just yours.

I posted links to the online feedback forms for the BC and federal Ministers of Transport.

Before you click "send", copy the letter into your word processor and print off a copy for mailing. The addresses are at the links posted.
 
I was just looking through the CARSP site and sicovered this person on the Board of Directors: http://www.carsp.ca/board.htm
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Mavis Johnson
Canadian Traffic Safety Institute
North Vancouver, BC
Mavis Johnson has over 30 years community-based road safety experience in both the United Kingdom and Canada. A police officer for ten years in the UK, she joined the BC Safety Council in the early 1980's. Between 1982 and 2003, Mavis worked at the Insurance Corporation of British Columbia (ICBC) where, as a Manager in the Loss Prevention Department, in charge of the Road Improvement Program, she sought to improve safety across the province through the use of traffic engineering solutions. In 2003, Mavis received the H. Robert Burton Distinguished Service Award from the Canadian Institute of Transportation Engineers. Mavis’ commitment to traffic safety is evident by her initiative and involvement in establishing the Traffic Safety Institute – an organization created to continue to improve the road safety knowledge in British Columbia, Canada and internationally.

Does anyone know of her and if she could be an ally?
John
 
Thinking back to a big reason why I bought our import Cruisers was the......

EFFICIENCY.

Non-rusted out fuel efficient, low emissions, diesel alternatives , thinking back it would be great if this was explored further on CBC possibly as a follow-up what do you think? Lots of people trying out the bio-diesels and VWO I am going to try and link a post over to some of those types of forums. Next "they" are going to say that JDM engines arent specified for NA (including the USA?) markets. :rolleyes: I have yet to see any stats that clearky show RHD as a safety issue.

Have a nice day,

Johnny
 
Yeh very interesting..
They have a contact in the inspections area..
What they really need is the contact for the people putting the push on (the big guy)..
Also there was something said about the law changeing this year..February???
I also feel as some of the skyline owners that there is something more going on here and that they (government) are just using the headlight DOT thing and the drivers position in the vehicle as a screen for some thing bigger..
I think they are using missdirection on us to cloud the real issues.

I think what everyone is doing is great.....But we all really need to get it togeather on this and before it is to late..

SO who is the real person in goverment putting this push on???
Anyone know???
Who are the law makers on Parliment Hill???
Anyone know??


Just me rambling... Oh 5 more posts and I'm a 300 man
 
This is a very interesting thread.. One thing that has possiably been overlooked in the study posted, is not all 15 y/o vehicles are JDM, this report is based on the assumption that this is the case.

I know for sure in driving around B.C there is many many 15 year old vehicles that are not of JDM origin...

James
 
i have had orders for 150 cards in total ncluding my 50. i can not beleieve there is this serious lack of interest in getting the word out to other RHD owners...

"HELLO, ANYONE THERE??". if BC TC wins this fight then don't blame the goverment, don't blame the importers, don't blame anyone but yourselves. in the end it is every single one of you that sat on your hands and did nothing to even try and stop this twisted information from being presented to the goverment...
when it comes time to replace that nice clean JDM you now own with a different one you just might be stuck with buying a gasser north american model...
 
Hello everyone

I'm new here. I have read every post of this thread and i find the discution very interesting, informative, constructive and intelligent. So i decided to sign up to participate and to share what i know.

First some word about me. I'm from the province of Quebec. I'm a little on the buiness of importation of cars as i give my help (more as a habby for my love in JDM and world cars not sale in NA than for money purpose) to a compagny named JDM Quebec that offert service to help people to locate in Japan the car they want and assiste them in the process to import it privately and pass the provincial inspection of the SAAQ over here (its the ICBC from Quebec). That's them who helped me to import my Skyline GT-R.

I'm worrying to death about this possible law change on importation of car since the time of first rumeur about it had come out, that's near a year ago. I have done (and continue to do) research on the net for this to know more about the laws and legislations in Canada and in other country in the world of the grey import of car to understand the whole situation.

I have already thought since months about most of the ideals that have been discuted on this thread, like the ideal of a web site/forum for all the canadian owner of imported car, a online petition (i have already done some test for it with a script that use php database that i can show you later), a association for importer and dealer. I'm very happy to see that now i'm not alone to think that we need to take action.

First i want to point you to the Canadian Council of Motor Transport Administrators (CCMTA): http://www.ccmta.ca Their mandate as cited on their website is:

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]CCMTA is a non-profit organization comprising representatives of the provincial, territorial and federal governments of Canada which, through the collective consultative process, makes decisions on administration and operational matters dealing with licensing, registration and control of motor vehicle transportation and highway safety. It also comprises associate members whose expertise and opinions are sought in the development of strategies and programs.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In support of the Council, the Secretariat acts as a neutral and independent coordinating and support body. In addition, the Secretariat manages a communications network, called the Interprovincial Record Exchange system, which is used by the governments for better business efficiencies in the areas of driver licensing and vehicle registration. The Secretariat uses the network to provide data access services to third parties on behalf of governments.[/FONT]
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A importer over here have take a membership at this organisation on the name of MFM International Inc. From what he have told, this is where a big part of the discutions goes between the provincial MOT and TC about the law change. I think that if there is one day a association of importer and dealer created, it should be a member of the CCMTA to have their voice hear in a good place and be part of the discution. The cost of the membership is 400$ a year.

That's it for now. More writing later...

-Mat
 
On the forum of the montrealracing website, a importer have post a few months ago the reply from Transport Canada from a question he have ask to them. We learn some interesting stuffs. Its in french, i have gross translated with google the text for here.

http://forums.montrealracing.com/showthread.php?t=401940

His question to TC:

hello, i would like to know if it is true that the law for the importation of vehicle coming from aillor that the USA will spend 15 years is 25 years old and so yes have us a precise date. Thank you for information by wishing you a very beautiful day.

Daniel
direct auto import
province: Quebec
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The reply from TC:

Dear Sir,

We take action on your request by email, of October 25, 2006, in which you requested information on the rule governing the importation of vehicles of more than fifteen years

We would like initially to start with you to explain that the Law on automobile safety (LSA) allows the development of standards aiming at ensuring the safety of the travellers. Its mandate consists in regulating the manufacture and the importation of the vehicles and automobile equipment in order to limit the risks of dead and physical, material and environmental injuries.

According to the LSA, all vehicles' imported in Canada must be in conformity with the safety requirements of the motor vehicles of Canada (NSVAC) applicable to the vehicles and the manufacturer must certify the certification of the vehicles at the time of their principal assembly. The LSA applies to all the vehicles of less than fifteen years and to all the buses manufactured after January first, 1971.

With an aim of eliminating the ambiguity which existed, at the time, between the requirements of Transport Canada (TC) and the Agency of the customs, article 4 of the Payment on the safety of the motor vehicles was amended in 1986, in order to exclude the vehicles of more than 15 years, except for the buses, of the various classes of vehicles under the Law on automobile safety (LSA).

The department of finances of the Agency of the customs of Canada has a rule in place prohibiting the importation of worn vehicles of less than 15 years. With party of 1986, the importers of vehicles of more than 15 years were informed that their vehicles were acceptable for the importation. However, since the LSA came into effect on January 1, 1971, these vehicles were regulated by the LSA. This fact was often forgotten, having for result that several importers were made refuse the importation of their vehicles, even if they had been beforehand informed that their vehicles were acceptable. The analysis which was carried out at the time indicated that few vehicles of more than 15 years were been essential and that, the majority of them, were it by collectors. The decision was thus made to exclude the vehicles of more than 15 years, except for the buses, holding account owing to the fact that they represented a negligible impact on the road safety in Canada. The buses were not included in the amendment at the request of Colombia Britanique which believed that because of their nature like public means of transport, they should not be exempted to conform to the automobile safety Requirements of Canada (NSVAC).

Transports Canada received the request of the provincial authorities to revalue this Payment on the automobile safety which established the age from which the vehicles do not have any more the obligation to conform to the applicable NSVAC. There is a fear expressed relative with the number growing of the volume of vehicles of more than 15 years which are imported coming from foreign countries which do not have requirements safety automobile equivalent to those of Canada, and thus pose a threat for public safety. That is more obvious for vehicles coming from countries as Japan which pose a factor of higher risk by their configuration of control on the right, because of the reduction of the field of visibility of the driver. This factor of risk is increased by the system requirements of lighting, which is aligned for an operation in the direction opposed to that of the vehicles designed to be led left side of the vehicle.

Transports Canada is of process of evaluation of these requests and undertakes a study with an aim of evaluating the implication for safety associated with the age of the imported vehicles. The preliminary results indicate that the suitable age to exempt the vehicles been essential to meet the requirements of the applicable NSVAC should oscillate in the surroundings of 25 or 30 years. It is on the other hand difficult, at this stage, to indicate if the Payment will be amended and, if it is the case, that will be the date of entry into force of the amendment.

Transports Canada is implied in the development of total regulation and the harmonization of regulation on the safety of the vehicles, by maintaining a level of safety of the vehicles acceptable for Canadian. That is done under the control surface of the world Forum of the United Nations on automobile safety. In partnership with 20 governments throughout the world, including Japan, the United States, several countries European and certain lobbys public, the representatives takes part in regular meetings with an aim of working out the world technical Payment in order to simplify the lawful process for the automobile manufacturers and the importers who put their vehicles on the international market.

We believe this useful and satisfactory information.


Road safety and automobile reglementation,
Transport Canada
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Wayne, I'd be interested in some cards, there are a crapload of JDMs in my area lately (wish mine was one of them!:frown: ) I must have missed it, what do I need to do to get some?
 
i am waiting for the new "Import Vehicle Association of Canada" web site to be uploaded for the proper link then i am off to get them made up, should have them by the end of next week and will ship same day to those that send me their contact info to
wayne@crushersrule.com

ON a private note, got your message about the upgrades and i am willing to take care of this for you
 
Some interesting info regarding UK & Europe:

Both RHD and LHD vehicles may generally be registered in any European Union member state, but there are some restrictions and regulations. Slovakia, despite being a member of the European Union, does not allow the local registration of RHD vehicles,[8] even if the vehicle is imported from one of the four EU countries that drive on the left (UK, Ireland, Cyprus, and Malta).

[edit] Headlamps and other lighting equipment

Most low-beam headlamps are specifically designed for use on one side of the road or the other. Headlamps for use in LH-traffic countries have low-beam headlamps that "dip to the left", i.e., the light is distributed with a downward/leftward bias to show the driver the road and signs ahead without blinding oncoming traffic. Headlamps for RH-traffic countries have low beams that "dip to the right", with most of their light directed downward/rightward. Within Europe, when driving a vehicle with RH-traffic headlamps in a LH-traffic country or vice versa for a limited time (as for example on vacation or in transit), it is a legal requirement to adjust the headlamps temporarily so that the wrong-side hot spot of the beam does not dazzle oncoming drivers. This may be achieved by adhering blackout strips or plastic prismatic lenses to a designated part of the lens, but some varieties of the projector-type headlamp can be made to produce a proper LH- or RH-traffic beam by shifting a lever or other movable element in or on the lamp assembly.
Because blackout strips and adhesive prismatic lenses reduce the safety performance of the headlamps, most countries require all vehicles registered or used on a permanent or semipermanent basis within the country to be equipped with headlamps designed for the correct traffic-handedness.
Anecdotal reporters have observed the requirement to adjust headlamps for the traffic-handedness of the country is increasingly flouted, and is now rarely enforced by European police forces. In France, this may be due in part to the 1993 deletion of the previous requirement for Selective yellow headlamp light; foreign-registered vehicles are now much less conspicuous at night.
Without sidecars attached, motorcycles, motor scooters, mopeds, and bicycles are almost symmetric with their handlebars in the centre. However, motorcycles are often equipped with automotive-type asymetrical-beam headlamps that likewise require adjustments or replacement when brought into a country with opposite traffic-handedness.

[edit] Rear fog lamps

Within the EU, vehicles must be equipped with one or two red rear fog lamps. A single rear fog lamp may be located on the vehicle centreline, or on the driver's side of the vehicle. It may not be located on the passenger's side of the vehicle. This sometimes requires the purchase and installation of local-market lighting components.
 
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