B-series & H-series landcruiser Engine-Serial-Number/VIN-Number thread

[vivians cruiser]

Production date help

Hello,

I have an HJ45 with this stamped on the frame 037336.
I am wondering if anyone can help with the production date.
I am guessing its early 1979 as the Australian compliance plate is stamped 9/79.

Also it has an H engine which is REALLY HARD to find glow plugs for PT-90 (last lot I found in Greece of all places). It still runs very well.

Should I consider dropping in a 2H from Yamoto Diesel?

Looking forward to ideas

 

[amaurer]

As a side-track ...... don't those 4 "thingies" that I've put a red dot on suggest that this late-model B engine is equipped with oil-squirters?

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If so, it blows away the criticism so many people place on B engines.

Interesting. And yes, I think this a fact.

The EPC for 1985 B/3B's shows the oil squiters as "Not applicable" for the B. Unusually, as if to reinforce the notion, the EPC drawing itself also has a little asterisk next to the squirter, with a note that says "3B."

However...

The EPC for a 1990 B (as found in a Dyna BU60) DOES list a p/n for the B squirters; 15708‑58020, qty 4.

That generation of the B is 8/1988 and later. Sooo I think its safe to say that B's in Landcruiser never had squirters. But indeed it looks like the very latest of the B's used in Dyna's (and maybe others) DID get them.

My impression is that the post '88 flavor of B is not very common so this might be academic.

 

[vivians cruiser]

Production date help

Does anyone have nay suggestions for the production date of an HJ45 H Engine with this on the frame HJ45 037336

 

[lostmarbles]

..I have an HJ45 with this stamped on the frame 037336.
I am wondering if anyone can help with the production date.
I am guessing its early 1979 as the Australian compliance plate is stamped 9/79.
Also it has an H engine which is REALLY HARD to find glow plugs for PT-90 (last lot I found in Greece of all places). It still runs very well.
Should I consider dropping in a 2H from Yamoto Diesel?
Looking forward to ideas

Does anyone have nay suggestions for the production date of an HJ45 H Engine with this on the frame HJ45 037336

My July 79 BJ40 had its compliance plate stamped 9/79 so my educated guess is that your HJ45 is probably July 79 too.



It seems clear to me from the Toyota EPC and from plug manufacturers' data that HJ45 cruisers manufactured from Jan 1975 (and perhaps even from as early as June 1973) should be running 19850-68030 plugs. This is the same plug as I run in my BJ40 (which is understandable for the same production period) and is equivalent to PT104 and not PT90.

(So if you're sure your engine is later than Jan 1975 them I'm pretty certain also that you should be running PT104 plugs.)

PT90 is an 8V plug (that was indeed used on early H-engines apparently) whereas PT104 is an 8.5V plug.

PT104 plugs are easy to source.

I don't think you should have any more trouble getting parts for your old H-engine than I do for my old B-engine. And it has never been a problem for me yet.

I think if I was you I'd savour owning a fairly unique engine. (Well that how I feel with my B-engine because so many people dumped them simply in favour of more horsepower.)

....My impression is that the post '88 flavor of B is not very common so this might be academic.

They're common enough in this part of the world Drew (in/from Dyna trucks).

 

[rchalmers3]

As a side-track ...... don't those 4 "thingies" that I've put a red dot on suggest that this late-model B engine is equipped with oil-squirters?

Interesting. And yes, I think this a fact. My impression is that the post '88 flavor of B is not very common so this might be academic.

My experience with these old motors is that the piston squirting bosses and passages are internal. Why do you think those external bosses indicate anything?

Rick

 

[fjbj40]

The passages are internal but the nozzles/squirters are installed into the block from the outside. They pass through the oil gallery and come out on the inside of the block pointing upwards. They are a semi-interferance fit with o-rings to seal. On the 3B they are on the drivers side of the engine, North American drivers side or L/H drive.

Cheers,
Daryl

r

My experience with these old motors is that the piston squirting bosses and passages are internal. Why do you think those external bosses indicate anything?

Rick

 

[Edcon]

Year of Manufacture

Hello,

I have a spare 2B Diesel engine serial number 0013746 which I need to date. Could anybody suggest a year of manufacture?

Many thanks.

 

[Biche]

I do not know if engine SN and body SN are related, but based on this website, it could be from a BJ41 manufactured in oct. 1981.

 

[Edcon]

Hi
I do not think that the engine and body serial number are related as I have another BJ40( 1981, body and engine number different and unchanged from new) and details for the body number match up perfectly with the site you recommend, good site to reference and thanks for trying.
I'm guessing that it's a 3.0D out of a BJ40 from the mid 1970's as were sold in Ireland. I just wanted a more exact year as I need to get some parts( Water pump etc)and there is a difference between the years I believe.
Regards.

 

[lostmarbles]

...I have a spare 2B Diesel engine serial number 0013746 which I need to date. .....

....I'm guessing that it's a 3.0D out of a BJ40 from the mid 1970's as were sold in Ireland. I just wanted a more exact year as I need to get some parts( Water pump etc)and there is a difference between the years I believe.
Regards.

Are you talking about 2 different engines here Ed (a 3.2 litre 2B and a 3 litre B)?

I'm confused.

You can determine whether an engine is a B or 2B by looking for these numbers/letters cast into the LH side of the block around the area of No.4 cylinder.

Assuming it is a 3L (or 2977cc) B Engine, identifying features may be able to help us narrow down your year.

For instance:

• Does the injector pump have an oil-level dipstick? ... if so it will be early 70s
• Is the starter motor of "gear-reduction" design? .... if so it will be late 70s
• etc

Pics will be particularly useful to help us date it.



Here's a pic of the dipstick used on early engines:

(This is actually an early H engine but I'm pretty sure the same would apply to an early B engine.)

 

[Edcon]

Hi,

I getting confused myself !

I looked on the Block a little to the right of the Block number(11411-56020) and there is a 2B stamped on a raised square section, this raised section is just under and a little to the right of the engine serial number ( 0013746 ), which is between the 3rd and 4 th inlet port looking down from the top of the engine beside the oil dip stick, nearest the bulkhead.

It has now(today) been suggested to me that this is a 3.2D 2B engine, however when I look on Euro4x4parts.com 4x4 parts Pièces 4x4 Recambios 4x4 for a water pump the suggested pumps do not look anything like the one on the engine I have, in fact the suggested water pumps for the 3.0D B engine ( 1969--->1977) looks correct and this is the cause of my confusion and need to identify and date the engine correctly.

Thanks for taking the time to assist.


Ed.

 

[vivians cruiser]

A rather late update on my identification attemps for my HJ45.

I discovered when trying to find a gasket for the valve cover that my engine is very unusual in Australia in that it was (apparently) never imported into the country in the vehicle!

It would seem I have a different engine then what was a standard H engine, even though my engine block has H stamped on it.

I know this because the part number for a H engine gasket results in one witha slight "bump" that sits into a grove in the metal cover. My valve cover does not have this grove and the gasket actaul has a rubber grove!

Impossible to find a replacement! Although a company in Malaysia has the part number I need listed as being for a fork lift, going to try swappiomng the actaul valve cover first before going down that track

So unique engine yes will I be keeping it yes

 

[lostmarbles]

A rather late update on my identification attemps for my HJ45.

I discovered when trying to find a gasket for the valve cover that my engine is very unusual in Australia in that it was (apparently) never imported into the country in the vehicle!

It would seem I have a different engine then what was a standard H engine, even though my engine block has H stamped on it.

I know this because the part number for a H engine gasket results in one witha slight "bump" that sits into a grove in the metal cover. My valve cover does not have this grove and the gasket actaul has a rubber grove!

Impossible to find a replacement! Although a company in Malaysia has the part number I need listed as being for a fork lift, going to try swappiomng the actaul valve cover first before going down that track

So unique engine yes will I be keeping it yes

Toyota suggests your engine should be running this valve cover gasket:


It looks like it actually has 2 or 3 little "humps" to me and you say your cover has no humps!

Oh well ...

Another approach you might like to try (assuming the above gasket is correct except for the humps) is "cutting out the section with the humps and replacing it with a straight section from a second new gasket".

I suggest this because it is standard engineering practice to make large O-rings by cutting the appropriate length from a roll of "correct-section O-ring stock" and the supergluing together the cut ends. (Cleanliness, square-cutting using a sharp scalpel, and proper alignment of the cut ends while the glue is setting ... are what's important here.)

 

[ZombieResponseUnit]

For the HJ45:
Landcruiser model : HJ45 LP-K
Engine Serial No: H 89598
Frame No. : HJ45-048488

When I bought the truck I was told it was a '80, originality from Honduras. However, there is no build date data plate present, and I wrote the title. The steering wheel is the late '80s type that says "Land Cruiser".

 

[landyNZ]

Model : BJ42RV-KC
Build Date : April 1984
Engine Serial No : 3B-0669893
Frame No : BJ42-007626

Not sure its lineage, would say it was sold into NZ new.

 

[fluffybunnysui]

Im in the same boat as you guys. My Hj came from Honduras as well, left hand drive and its been 4 years and i still have not found a website that has Frame numbers as low as mine. HJ45-014871. Meaning i cant put a actual year to my truck. Here is a pic of the engine number
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Engine number is H46492

 

[fluffybunnysui]

bump....

 

[Davebo]

I have a 3B engine with a casting number of 11411-58010. Can anyone tell me what year that is?

 

[Moe R]

I have a 3B engine with a casting number of 11411-58010. Can anyone tell me what year that is?

Mine is a Feb. 1984 build date, engine #11411-58030. Hope that helps.

 

[lostmarbles]

I have a 3B engine with a casting number of 11411-58010. Can anyone tell me what year that is?

Mine is a Feb. 1984 build date, engine #11411-58030. Hope that helps.

The casting numbers (or "casting part-numbers") are needed when ordering reconditioning kits but I'd expect each one to cover a significant production period ... For example, perhaps "Oct 1980 to Aug 1984".

Normally I can enter a part number and find which models it was used in and the associated production periods. But for some reason Toyota doesn't allow this with block casting numbers (or at least I can't work out how to do it).

A better guide to your build date would be your block serial number. Once you've found that, you can hopefully compare it to serial numbers from other 3B blocks where owners already know their build dates.



PS. That's why I started this thread ... ie. For all owners who know their build dates to provide their engine serial numbers and frame serial numbers (also called "VIN details") so others who don't know their build dates (of either their engines or their frames/complete-vehicles) can narrow theirs down.