Auxiliary Fuel tank for the empty space under the LX600?

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For all those worried about aftermarket tanks voiding warranties, go learn about the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (USA). I personally inspected my tanks, and they clean and debris free. Worst thing that could happen is??? I mean it a tank that holds fuel. I didn’t upgrade the turbos or anything like that…
 
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Interested to hear about your experience filling up.
My understanding is that aux tank fills first. If both tanks are empty, would the pump shut off after filling aux to maximum and you have to wait for it to syphon/drain to the maintank before continuing the fillup?
 
@LostInTranslation
Interested to hear about your experience filling up.
My understanding is that aux tank fills first. If both tanks are empty, would the pump shut off after filling aux to maximum and you have to wait for it to syphon/drain to the maintank before continuing the fillup?
Interesting question.... I've only filled up once, shop had 12-14 gallons in it, I added 29. I did nothing special. I am towing the trailer this weekend, so I will have more details, but from my understanding, you shouldn't recognize any difference.
 
If you have a warranty claim and Lexus denies it and alleges the "issue" was caused (i.e. as a result) of your modification, they will have to present evidence of that link.

What if they don't allege that the issue was caused by your modification? What if they just point out to the sentence I quoted and say "your modification changed the specified fuel capacity of the vehicle, therefore according to the terms you agreed to, your warranty is void"? It's not like all the conditions they list have to be fulfilled for them to deny warranty, it's just any one of them.

For all those worried about aftermarket tanks voiding warranties, go learn about the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (USA). I personally inspected my tanks, and they clean and debris free. Worst thing that could happen is??? I mean it a tank that holds fuel. I didn’t upgrade the turbos or anything like that…

Yeah, you can argue the law with the dealer all you want, but will it get you anywhere?

For example, PayPal has a generic policy where if you start a transaction dispute which results in a return, you pay return shipping. I received a defective product (literally missing parts), which according to the consumer protection law and postal law of the state of the merchant, requires the merchant to pay return shipping. Did PayPal care? Not one bit. They just kept on illegally insisting that I pay return shipping.

The law is only as good as how far you are willing to go to enforce it.
 
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Interesting question.... I've only filled up once, shop had 12-14 gallons in it, I added 29. I did nothing special. I am towing the trailer this weekend, so I will have more details, but from my understanding, you shouldn't recognize any difference.
Thank you!
These tanks will be absolute game changers on these rigs.
 
What if they don't allege that the issue was caused by your modification? What if they just point out to the sentence I quoted and say "your modification changed the specified fuel capacity of the vehicle, therefore according to the terms you agreed to, your warranty is void"? It's not like all the conditions they list have to be fulfilled for them to deny warranty, it's just any one of them.



Yeah, you can argue the law with the dealer all you want, but will it get you anywhere?

For example, PayPal has a generic policy where if you start a transaction dispute which results in a return, you pay return shipping. I received a defective product (literally missing parts), which according to the consumer protection law and postal law of the state of the merchant, requires the merchant to pay return shipping. Did PayPal care? Not one bit. They just kept on illegally insisting that I pay return shipping.

The law is only as good as how far you are willing to go to enforce it.
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Also, a dealer cannot void your warranty, only the manufacturer can, and there are many dealers out there to use instead of a dumb one who won’t work on your vehicle cuz you used an aftermarket part.

As long as the part was not the cause of the problem, you shouldn’t worry about voiding your warranty. Especially a fuel tank, which is literally just a big canister. Now if you start upgrading turbos or tuning the ECU, definitely worry about engine warranty coverage at that point. On a positive note, if Lexus flags you for that, they’ll still have to fix your window regulator if you’re still covered under warranty. ;)
 
Tried to watch but was having anxiety attacks every time this guy said “I have no idea what I am doing” several times. Gotta give it to the owner, he is really brave (or money is not a concern) for throwing his brand new six figure LX into the hands of the guy that had no idea what it was. Maybe it’s all a click bait act. Who knows.
Starting by saying I love this upgrade! Beautiful.

Ok, Im not the only one. I saw when it posted. I generally like his videos but as someone that is admittedly super anal, I am not a fan of some of his practices. Speaking of keeping things in "perfect condition", the one handed nature and distraction of filming causes errors. This can be seen in the use of the wrong socket size, using Torx instead of an Allen, and a screwdriver on the worm clamps instead of a socket for the best torque. Not to mention a tremendous amount of metal shavings falling from some of the bolts where the sockets spun on the head, and just too much force all over without a torque wrench. If an original bolt is taken out of place, the corrosion resistance is compromised and now grease or antisieze should be added as appropriate. And I didnt see any silicone on any new rubber connections...It didnt happen in this video but I can not stand when power tools and metal tools are put on the cowl or actual windshield. Sorry, my two cents as I had a hard time watching this since it likely cost about 100k more than the normal cars he works on.
 
What if they don't allege that the issue was caused by your modification? What if they just point out to the sentence I quoted and say "your modification changed the specified fuel capacity of the vehicle, therefore according to the terms you agreed to, your warranty is void"? It's not like all the conditions they list have to be fulfilled for them to deny warranty, it's just any one of them.



Yeah, you can argue the law with the dealer all you want, but will it get you anywhere?

For example, PayPal has a generic policy where if you start a transaction dispute which results in a return, you pay return shipping. I received a defective product (literally missing parts), which according to the consumer protection law and postal law of the state of the merchant, requires the merchant to pay return shipping. Did PayPal care? Not one bit. They just kept on illegally insisting that I pay return shipping.

The law is only as good as how far you are willing to go to enforce it.
I choose not to live my life and fear of what may or may not ever happen. I take responsibility for my own actions. Here is a former vehicle of mine that was taken straight from the new car dealer to the shop and had the entire ford frame removed and hand built. There was not a single piece of Ford frame left when it was finished. Do you think I went to the dealer when it had a problem? It was finished just in time for Seema 2017 and showed up at Sema with the original window sticker and 200 miles on it.

And while you’re over there, arguing legality of warranty repair because of a tank, a situation that I’m fully prepared to address when the time comes, if it ever comes, you’re there with your 17 gallons fretting over towing a 3000 pound trailer and I’m over here with 43 gallons towing an 8000 pound trailer with a 1000 lbs tongue weight, enjoying life.

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lol… just watched the “warranty video”. Funny he mentioned turbos too.
Yeah. I actually wrote my last post before watching his warranty video and he basically said the exact same thing I wrote. This guy is obviously not a lawyer, but I bet he has one or consulted one before posting that video with that explanation.

What if they don't allege that the issue was caused by your modification? What if they just point out to the sentence I quoted and say "your modification changed the specified fuel capacity of the vehicle, therefore according to the terms you agreed to, your warranty is void"? It's not like all the conditions they list have to be fulfilled for them to deny warranty, it's just any one of them.
I mean, really? At this point, I can only assume you are trolling everyone here. :stop:
 
I choose not to live my life and fear of what may or may not ever happen. I take responsibility for my own actions. Here is a former vehicle of mine that was taken straight from the new car dealer to the shop and had the entire ford frame removed and hand built. There was not a single piece of Ford frame left when it was finished. Do you think I went to the dealer when it had a problem?

Yes, that is what I'm saying. If you add your own mods which change the specs of the car, then the warranty explicitly states that the warranty is void, so you wouldn't be able to get it repaired under warranty at the dealership. I'm glad you agree with me, so why so hostile? Noone is taking away your right to modify your car, I just think the YouTube video posted about the warranty directly contradicts what is explicitly written on the warranty. Relax.

I mean, really? At this point, I can only assume you are trolling everyone here. :stop:

I don't know man, who's trolling - the one who reads the whole terms and conditions, or the one who chooses to selectively ignore parts of them? Feel free to call me paranoid, though...

The t&c are not a series of "and" clauses, they are a series of "or" clauses. For example, in the sentence you quoted, you don't need to have misused AND neglected and modified AND altered AND tampered and disconnected AND improperly adjusted AND improperly repaired AND had an accident for them to deny your warranty. It's ANY of them. Just like how it's any of the stuff in this sentence, or ANY of the stuff in the preceding sentence, whose only condition to void a warranty is that you modify your vehicle beyond spec.

Just clean, simple, English reading comprehension. Now, if your only response to that is "omg you must be trolling", well, that says a lot about what you have to you say.
 
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Yes, that is what I'm saying. If you add your own mods which change the specs of the car, then the warranty explicitly states that the warranty is void, so you wouldn't be able to get it repaired under warranty at the dealership.
Yes, if my NEW fuel tank has a leak, I'm not expecting the dealer to fix it under warranty. But if ANYTHING else happens, I'll be first in line at the service drive, grabbing my free coffee and donuts... because I have a 100k Lexus Extended warranty that covers EVERYTHING (except this glossy black metal gas tank under my 700h).
 
Can someone please start a thread: Debating the Legalese of Warranty Clauses, so I can mute it?
I agree and no need. The man clearly needs to hire a lawyer to explain to him how to read warranty terms. At least I won't engage anymore and will just let him speak to himself.

Yes, if my NEW fuel tank has a leak, I'm not expecting the dealer to fix it under warranty. But if ANYTHING else happens, I'll be first in line at the service drive, grabbing my free coffee and donuts... because I have a 100k Lexus Extended warranty that covers EVERYTHING (except this shiny metal gas tank under my 700h).
Right! It is glaringly obvious.
 
Yes, if my NEW fuel tank has a leak, I'm not expecting the dealer to fix it under warranty. But if ANYTHING else happens, I'll be first in line at the service drive, grabbing my free coffee and donuts... because I have a 100k Lexus Extended warranty that covers EVERYTHING (except this glossy black metal gas tank under my 700h).

Yeah, if (god forbid) you do, let us know what happens. It's a lot more useful than sitting here yapping about it. Especially now that it seems like I've triggered MRego.
 
They do.
A whole 5 threads in the section for the newest GLS, out for 6 years now. Compared to 400+ here, out for 4.

It's like they don't even care...must have better things to do!
 
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