ARB's install labor charge (1 Viewer)

[ShottsUZJ100]

So following that same logic if I pay for a high quality install, I should eliminate the majority of possible problems.

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Nope. Different issue all together.

If you have the INSTALL done from whom you BUY the parts then you have the added security that you will be taken care of down the road and not have to dink around getting things fixed properly (should something fail).

I'll pay the premium for the above paragraph. Just my opinion.

 

[NorCalDoug]

Shotts -
I agree. I think the point that was either missed or not being acknowledged earlier is that buying the part from the installer reduces the hassle factor of dealing with the finger-pointing in the event that something goes wrong.

If nothing goes wrong, then there's no problem.
If something does go wrong, you have the hassle of (possibly) paying for removal, deterimining the root cause of the problem and getting it resolved.

Sourcing everything from one place would mean that you'd point the finger to them for resolution. Doing it the way you did, (if something goes wrong) fingers get pointed in all directions.

Selecting a good shop increases your odds of a trouble-free installation, but does not eliminate the finger-pointing if something goes wrong, nor does it negate the hassle-factor involved with getting the problem -- whatever it might be -- resolved.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Shotts -
I agree. I think the point that was either missed or not being acknowledged earlier is that buying the part from the installer reduces the hassle factor of dealing with the finger-pointing in the event that something goes wrong.

If nothing goes wrong, then there's no problem.
If something does go wrong, you have the hassle of (possibly) paying for removal, deterimining the root cause of the problem and getting it resolved.

Sourcing everything from one place would mean that you'd point the finger to them for resolution. Doing it the way you did, (if something goes wrong) fingers get pointed in all directions.

Selecting a good shop increases your odds of a trouble-free installation, but does not eliminate the finger-pointing if something goes wrong, nor does it negate the hassle-factor involved with getting the problem -- whatever it might be -- resolved.

 

[Biff]

So following that same logic if I pay for a high quality install, I should eliminate the majority of possible problems.

QUOTE]

Nope. Different issue all together.

If you have the INSTALL done from whom you BUY the parts then you have the added security that you will be taken care of down the road and not have to dink around getting things fixed properly (should something fail).

I'll pay the premium for the above paragraph. Just my opinion.

Not necessarly, if the shop is top notch like MAF, I'll just have them inspect the locker and approve it before installation. After all as I've said an ARB locker is an ARB locker(yes I understand the point of buying it from the same place) so if the shop looks the locker over and sees nothing wrong with it before insall, than any future problems could be resloved easier. These guys do thousands of these installs, and know every inch of the locker, so spotting a problem before hand shouldn't be that hard. Now if something goes wrong after the install, the tech should not have a problem locating what is wrong.

Now I'm not saying this way is bullet proof but it helps.

 

[sleeoffroad]

This buying from the same source is fine, but I disagree with it and find that all you have to do is make sure the part is fine before the install.

Can't verify the inside of the locker. We have to trust the ARB put it together correctly. I all cases, ARB will step up and replace/fix the problem. It is only the steps to the resolution that changes. And sometimes can add time and extra expenses.

All that I have said has a 5% of happending. However the points should be addressed and discussed before the work is done. Otherwise there might be a lot of bad blood later.

Just FYI, ARB does not just write us a blank check to cover labor when a item fail. Normal procedure is remove item (labor on shops cost), send item back for inspection, get replaced or fixed, then re-install. Only after failure if determined to we sort out the labor cost with ARB.

A lot of it boils down to how the dealer will treat you and their customer service policy. However there are issues, and one should be aware of them.

 

[Biff]

I risk myself more crossing the street, so 5% is not bad, I'll take my chances. Now if it was 70 or 80% chance of the locker breaking down thats something else.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Now if it was 70 or 80% chance of the locker breaking down thats something else.

It depends on how you wheel!

 

[alia176]

Biff,

Buy a case of Guinness, two dozen Krispy Kreme, invite a few Cruiser knuckle heads over and do the install yourself. You can do one locker in a weekend if you want. Someone in SoCal must have installed an ARB in a Toyota 3rd member I'm pretty sure! This way, you can learn about your vehicle even more and save tons of cash! Installing a ring and pinion, now that's a different story!

Go here for a writeup on a recent ARB locker install and see how straight forward it is!

 

[concretejungle]

I agree with alia. I'm not a gear head, but plan on having a local guy from the race shop put my ARBs in when comes time.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

I know I liked ALIA176 when we wheeled together in Sedona. Know I know he's cool. GUINESS!

Guiness Stout is the "100" of beers. ....here's we go again...80 vs 100.

 

[NorCalDoug]

IGuiness Stout is the "100" of beers. ....here's we go again...80 vs 100.

Naw...Guiness would be at Moab...therefore it can't be the 100 of beers.

 

[cruiserdan]

Guiness Stout is the "100" of beers.

What does that make Keystone?

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Keystone = 93 FZJ80,locked,blown,water/methanol injected(like a WWII fighter aircraft),lifted,winched,snorkeled,slidered,Sleeed ,moneypit. Balanced on a pin head.




KIDDING!!!

DON'T KILL ME!!!

I couldn't resist!

 

[Biff]

What does that make Keystone?

Nothing wrong with Keyston, I'm a Samual Adams beer man myself.

Ok

All the Sam Adams beer and Pizza you can eat for a hand installing the locker. You think that would work

 

[cruiserdan]

Keystone = 93 FZJ80,locked,blown,water/methanol injected(like a WWII fighter aircraft),lifted,winched,snorkeled,slidered,Sleeed ,moneypit. Balanced on a pin head.




KIDDING!!!

DON'T KILL ME!!!

I couldn't resist!

At least you didn't say "Yugo"....

 

[HZJ60 Guy]

I know that Im a 60 jack ass in an 80 thread area, but hey we're all crusier nutz. I just piped in because I thought that was to much to pay for the work done. Just my opinion. Im all for quality work, and that there is a price to pay for that work. I've had five rigs with dual ARB's in my life so I know a quality product when I see it....

Good luck and choose those ring and pinions correctly. You dont want to wish you had a step lower or a step higher.

And hey, PUT A DIESEL IN THAT THING!


TB

 

[Biff]

Good luck and choose those ring and pinions correctly. You dont want to wish you had a step lower or a step higher.

No problem on the Ring and Pinions, Cdan hooked me up on that so I know I'm getting a quality product. There I go again supporting one of our members

hey we're all crusier nutz.

Yes we are, thats why I love this place and feel comforatble discussing stuff like this.

 

[Ian Rogers]

Biff,

Buy a case of Guinness, two dozen Krispy Kreme, invite a few Cruiser knuckle heads over and do the install yourself. You can do one locker in a weekend if you want. Someone in SoCal must have installed an ARB in a Toyota 3rd member I'm pretty sure! This way, you can learn about your vehicle even more and save tons of cash! Installing a ring and pinion, now that's a different story!

Go here for a writeup on a recent ARB locker install and see how straight forward it is!

Biff i have done afew arb installs and could show you how it do it if you want, we would need a lot of beer. pm if you want to go this way, i can use my friends shop in LA or do it down at my place in costa mesa.

 

[robbie]

So I will create a little biff in all this. ARB has never comensated me for labor in any way or form to date. it may of compensated Christo in the form of a lower price or part, but it never has paid the shop money for any of the problems I have found(which have been a few over the last few years). so what some are saying to you can create a can of worms for you. I currently make sure the new lockers have the new quad seal (4 liped seals, new design) instead of the older design(red U shaped). the customer gets charged for this up grade. A choice made by them at the time. Some lockers come now with them, some do not. I have had a problems from time to time with excessive run out on the ring gear mounting flange, depends on how picky you want to be. If the shops buy locker I will be alot more picky, then if some one brought it in, I will call and discuss the situation and give options and costs. But I would not just give a blanket statement that ARB will cover all, You could be in for a rude awaking. Just a Opinion from some one that installs the lockers. later robbie

 

[Biff]

Robbie,

How can I tell if the lockers have

new quad seal (4 liped seals, new design) instead of the older design(red U shaped).


you mentioned?