Haha, yep. The WMO doesn't really add much smoke at all when injected as fuel. Nothing like when you have oil seeping past the valve guides while compression braking, that smokes 
Anyone runing additives in their fuel?
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WMO stinks and significantly increases toxic pollution when used as a motor fuel. That's irresponsible in a populated area.
Not true. The Zenn company applied for and received the necessary permits to sell the Zenn in BC, then chose not to market the Zenn in Canada. It's a Provincial regulation so they would have to apply to each Province. They decided the US market was more profitable.
Yeah, yeah... sure... believe whatever whatever makes you happy. It won't change anything.
I drive a diesel light-truck, and if others wanted to they could too.
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All it takes is a society that values money above all else, combined with basic greed, no conspiracy required.
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Ok, as long as we are off topic I am interested in this W85. I have access to as much waste motor oil as I could ever use. Used ATF as well. I can collect it myself so I know there is no water in it. I can also decide if I only want to collect 0W-20 full synthetic. Is it worth it to get a centrifuge, spin it, filter it, blend it with 15% regular gas then run it in my truck? I researched this some before and got mixed information. Some people said no way, others said they ran it no problem.
I've run some WMO blended with SVO and some conditioner but I've not been impressed. It's just too dam dirty. I've run it through my refinery in my garage (made for cleaning up WVO), and it's still dam black. I simply don't trust it. I have a hunch it clogs my filters quicker onboard as well.
I don't bother with it anymore as it's too much work for me personally. SVO is higher quality, clear fuel.
Nobody has commented on adding methanol yet! Common you guys! Galt? You've always got something for me, no?
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I don't bother with it anymore as it's too much work for me personally. SVO is higher quality, clear fuel.
Nobody has commented on adding methanol yet! Common you guys! Galt? You've always got something for me, no?
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aaron
Where did you hear that? Here is what a friend of mine that called the company directly and was interested in buying a car from them had to say...
"You can actually buy one, however they are not legal to drive on the road. Transport Canada has certain safety restrictions and even when met, because your name is not GM or Ford you can't get clearance I actually contacted Zenn and spoke to them. They have been trying to comply and get clearance for several years. There are other modes of transportation that do not perpetuate the gluttonus oil consumption, but this does not coincide with the view of capitalism by corporations. The biggest concern by the Canadian Government is that they don't want to encourage this alternative as it could potentially decrease profits for corporations and themselves with gas taxes."
Rick Mercer talking with the founder and CEO of Zenn...
The ZENN Car - Car made in Canada is illegal in Canada - YouTube
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But if you live near a forest with clean air and clean spring water... Run the s*** out of that WMO!!!
Directly from the Zenn company about a month or so ago when I inquired about purchasing one.Originally Posted by John Galt
Not true. The Zenn company applied for and received the necessary permits to sell the Zenn in BC, then chose not to market the Zenn in Canada. It's a Provincial regulation so they would have to apply to each Province. They decided the US market was more profitable.
Methanol with lye is good for making biodiesel and soap from UVO.
I use Howes in all the diesels I have driven and occasionally I gallon or so of WVO per tank if I can get my hand on it.
Im stricktly looking for lubrication benifits
Im stricktly looking for lubrication benifits
I have been using fuel conditioner for over 22 years in various diesel motors that I have ran and owned.
and I can say that I have never had to any fuel system repairs.
except for a faulty ( leaking primer pump)
and I can say that I have never had to any fuel system repairs.
except for a faulty ( leaking primer pump)
IMO there's going to be all sorts of crap in WMO including very fine metallic particles which you will never remove no matter how good your system of cleaning/filtration. Personally I wouldn't want it anywhere near my fuel tank.
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Actually, waste oil is re-refined all the time and there is a good chance that you are running re-refined WMO in your crankcase - if not in your dino fuel. There are some interesting ubrew small refineries that people have built to make diesel fuel and to heat their homes and shops from WMO. Have a look at some of these search results: recycling wate motor oil - Google Search.
Wanted to keep this out of the "what fuel additive do you use" thread, and thought this the best spot.
Interesting, as with the federally mandated (in Canada July 1st 2011) 2% bio fuel additives to diesel at the pump and a number of the fuel retailers saying there is no need to add additives to their diesel fuel...how many folk run no additive at all.
I have not been consistent in adding at each fill on the in line pump 3B, 13BT and 12HT, usually only major dosing it once in a while as a cleaner. But with a rotory pump in the stable now and the lubricity concerns that surfaced shortly after the Low Sulpher change I have been using something at every fill.
I wonder if its all moot now, unless you have to fill at suspect locations (traveling), are going into extremely cold weather, or or are simply trying to minimize odor and smoke and maximize efficiency of the burn.
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Interesting, as with the federally mandated (in Canada July 1st 2011) 2% bio fuel additives to diesel at the pump and a number of the fuel retailers saying there is no need to add additives to their diesel fuel...how many folk run no additive at all.
I have not been consistent in adding at each fill on the in line pump 3B, 13BT and 12HT, usually only major dosing it once in a while as a cleaner. But with a rotory pump in the stable now and the lubricity concerns that surfaced shortly after the Low Sulpher change I have been using something at every fill.
I wonder if its all moot now, unless you have to fill at suspect locations (traveling), are going into extremely cold weather, or or are simply trying to minimize odor and smoke and maximize efficiency of the burn.
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Greg you are right I miss read sorry
Didnt want to bring it up on other thread no chat
I also read some where that the % of bio diesel added to diesel fuel will
go up higher over the years
From what I have read all canadian fuel companies have been
adding lubricants to their diesel fuels
So I guess for some its piece of mind to add to every tank
I don't
Waaz
For me it is piece of mind with the added lubrication. They are all suppose to meet the federal standard. I guess I just don't trust them. I do know that their cetane or perhaps their BTUs vary from company to company, as how else would I explain the difference in performance of diesel pumped without putting in additive. I have never run Petro Canada diesel without additive. I have run Chevron, Shell, Flying-J, Husky, Co-op, Esso and Superstore without additive. I do like the Husky diesel but it also performs (less smoke and feels smoother and stronger) much better with Power Service's additives. Seeing as I am adding Power Service at every tank fill, I usually fill at Superstore and get my diesel about 3-7 cents a liter cheaper plus another 3.5 cents per liter store credit.
BTW, the worse diesel form my TD4.2 is Flying-J. Even the idle drops. It doesn't seem to have any negative impact on the LC diesel engines. All the club members fill there on their way into the interior.
BTW, the worse diesel form my TD4.2 is Flying-J. Even the idle drops. It doesn't seem to have any negative impact on the LC diesel engines. All the club members fill there on their way into the interior.
Safari, Interesting the whole petro can and flying J thing. The Cardlock owner here in Sudbury ON says that the petro and shell stations use the same supplier here in ontario. Noticed the flying j difference but only when they switched to winter deisel. But as far as I know petro can and shell are the smae fuel in ON.
Anyone know what the shell super deisel add. is? I would like to know, but I think adding your own would be better?
Anyone know what the shell super deisel add. is? I would like to know, but I think adding your own would be better?
I had an Esso station owner try to tell me that all the diesel sold in the Lower Mainland of BC came from one local refinery. Sure. 
As for the Flying-J, I think it is US diesel, as I have seen their tankers coming across the border here. My truck also doesn't like the US Chevron diesel straight up. It's got to have some mix added.
As for the Flying-J, I think it is US diesel, as I have seen their tankers coming across the border here. My truck also doesn't like the US Chevron diesel straight up. It's got to have some mix added.
I have run pure acetone in the fuel with my ford diesel and my 60, mileage increased slightly and noticabley less smoke, probably not any money gains yhough, maybe 3-5% better mileage.
My dad runs some sort of power pill that he drops in with each tank of his cummins and the old ford, he says he saves money on them (8-10%) and everyone he knows who's tried them has found considerably better mileage, including some of his friends driving gassers who claim as much as 25% better mileage, though I dont know the brand/maker of them (sorry).
My dad runs some sort of power pill that he drops in with each tank of his cummins and the old ford, he says he saves money on them (8-10%) and everyone he knows who's tried them has found considerably better mileage, including some of his friends driving gassers who claim as much as 25% better mileage, though I dont know the brand/maker of them (sorry).
