Anyone? Picture of ruff stuff frenched 63" swapped in.

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Simply running reverse wrapped eyes can lower you 2" , depending on the diameter of the spring eye.
Example of reverse eye...
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Are these always custom springs or did they come stock on some vehicles?
 
this pic shows the issue with frenching the shackle. The shackle has to be made longer so the gain is minimal if anything. A spring over with a flat spring can run a pretty short shackle if the bushing tube is placed on the bottom of the frame. A short shackle won't clear through a range of motion, in many cases, when it's frenched through the frame. The other consideration is whether the centerline on the frame is the correct centerline of the spring. Many hangers are offset because the frame rails are not parallel right and left so moving the hanger fore and aft along the rail may change it's position relative to the center of the frame rail.

This is probably a valid point. The 3/4 HD springs I have for the back will likely be anything but flat. I could see where if I frenched int the hangers I would lose a great deal of available motion. That is is I am understanding you correctly.
 
Are these always custom springs or did they come stock on some vehicles?



They were stock on many vehicles especially older trucks. A lot of hotrod/roadster guys do this to lower their truck. Rubicon Express sells a set of these specifically for spring overs on Jeep Wranglers. They are easily researched on Google.
Berlin eyes are considered the strongest. I used those on the Mohave spring design. They will also drop you a little, about half what the reverse eye will.
You especially find the Berlin eyes on very heavy trucks, over the road, cement, etc

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here's a quick and easy read
http://www.eatondetroitspring.com/wp-content/uploads/st101.pdf
 
This is probably a valid point. The 3/4 HD springs I have for the back will likely be anything but flat. I could see where if I frenched int the hangers I would lose a great deal of available motion. That is is I am understanding you correctly.

You'll only lose motion if you shorten the shackle to the point it hits the frame before reaching it's potential. Before you take the plunge, crawl under the truck with a couple shackle templates and cycle them through travel. You may find it takes a 6" sideplate frenched to do what a 4 1/2 side plate mounted under to achieve the same unrestricted motion. the net gain may only be a negative 1/4~ 1/2 of real lift .
 
I know this thread a few years old,, Has anyone since used these Ruff Stuff frenched 63's hangers? I was thinking of getting them to run a pair of 63's as low as possible.
 
I know this thread a few years old,, Has anyone since used these Ruff Stuff frenched 63's hangers? I was thinking of getting them to run a pair of 63's as low as possible.
I haven’t but am running rear 63s. What size tires do you want to run and what are you type of terrain are you going to drive your 60 on?
 
I know this thread a few years old,, Has anyone since used these Ruff Stuff frenched 63's hangers? I was thinking of getting them to run a pair of 63's as low as possible.

Yes I have them and cut them into my frame as intended. However the tricky part is getting the front to match the same ride height on leaf springs.
 
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They were stock on many vehicles especially older trucks. A lot of hotrod/roadster guys do this to lower their truck. Rubicon Express sells a set of these specifically for spring overs on Jeep Wranglers. They are easily researched on Google.
Berlin eyes are considered the strongest. I used those on the Mohave spring design. They will also drop you a little, about half what the reverse eye will.
You especially find the Berlin eyes on very heavy trucks, over the road, cement, etc

berlin eye
images


here's a quick and easy read
http://www.eatondetroitspring.com/wp-content/uploads/st101.pdf

A lot of old Hot Rod people also took stock springs and had the eyes reversed at shop - which you cannot probably find anyone to do any longer.

My dad has a 1932 Ford coupe and it has only 2 leaf packs 1 front and one rear - they are both transverse to the frame. I broke the main leaf in the rear pack when I was a teen and had to swap out the leaf pack as punishment. Not too bad for me all and all.
 
I really wanted to try to make a set of reverse-eye Cruiser main for my front suspension (I have Fj62 rears up front), when I first set it up the front was about an inch higher then the rear, but it has settled to about level since then and one of the main leaves in the other pair of springs I picked up was broken so that project is on the back burner. My current front springs are in too good a shape to potentially ruin by doing this, i want to try it with crappy ones. I am running a longer rear shackle then I need to currently and maybe will revisit the reverse eye idea one day. I've found several examples of springs re-arched to make a reverse eye in hot-rod world but have not found anyone who has done it for a vehicle that will see a lot of wheel travel yet.
 

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