Another Broken Front Diff

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Since I purchased my 99 LC over two years ago, I have known that the weak two pinion diff needed to be upgraded. I kind of ignored it and built the truck up and figured I would upgrade it when it broke.

On a recent trip out to Death Valley, we were crawling up a canyon that lead to a large mine (Defense Mine). I'd done much more technical stuff on prior trips and really didn't think much of what I was going over. At one point the rear got hi-centered. I turned on my rear locker and tried to move forward over the rock thinking my front tires would pull me over.

The best I can remember was the front tires started to rotate and then I heard a loud clicking sound come from the front end and the front tires stopped turning. The witness said the front wheels did not bounce. They were turned about 1/2 way when I was trying to get unstuck. At that point, any gas applied just created a loud clicking sound.

I immediately figured my front diff had blown. It took some time to get the truck in to a position that allow me to crawl under it to disconnect the drive shaft and flanges. I was able to make it out in 2wd and drove 250+ miles home the next day.

When I got home, I turned the diff manually with my hand and could feel binding every 1/2 or full rotation. Based on conversations with a few people, this means my spider gears are most likely toast.

I'm driving around in 2wd until next week when I plan on having my mechanic take everything apart. I plan on taking photos to determine if we can learn anything new from what happened here.

I'm considering re-gearing since I may end up drinking some of the 35's cool aid in the future.

Decisions: ARB vs TJM ? I'm sure this debate has been beaten to death and I'll spend some time searching.....
 
sorry to hear , post up what you end up going with and any other damage that could have saved money if replaced sooner. I know this will be my fate sooner or later.
 
One tipping point in your decision may be that occasionally ARB offers a compressor for free with the purchase of a locker. Only other point I could offer is that ARB has been stable in the US market for years, TJM has had some issues in the past.
 
Carl at Just Differentials is a great guy to talk to when sorting this stuff out.

Not certain, but I thought I read somewhere that ARB had a revised carrier out this year?
 
Wow, that's some bad luck! Seems like most of them break as a result of a certain confluence of events, sounds like yours just decided to bite the dust.

I might need to keep the wiring for my compressor in the engine bay....an ARB front locker may be coming sooner rather than later.
 
Sorry to hear! Best of luck...You will be happy with an ARB.

You wouldn't have any pictures of what you did to the drive shaft and flanges? I am clueless...I think I understand what you did but am a visual learner....thanks!



Since I purchased my 99 LC over two years ago, I have known that the weak two pinion diff needed to be upgraded. I kind of ignored it and built the truck up and figured I would upgrade it when it broke.

On a recent trip out to Death Valley, we were crawling up a canyon that lead to a large mine (Defense Mine). I'd done much more technical stuff on prior trips and really didn't think much of what I was going over. At one point the rear got hi-centered. I turned on my rear locker and tried to move forward over the rock thinking my front tires would pull me over.

The best I can remember was the front tires started to rotate and then I heard a loud clicking sound come from the front end and the front tires stopped turning. The witness said the front wheels did not bounce. They were turned about 1/2 way when I was trying to get unstuck. At that point, any gas applied just created a loud clicking sound.

I immediately figured my front diff had blown. It took some time to get the truck in to a position that allow me to crawl under it to disconnect the drive shaft and flanges. I was able to make it out in 2wd and drove 250+ miles home the next day.

When I got home, I turned the diff manually with my hand and could feel binding every 1/2 or full rotation. Based on conversations with a few people, this means my spider gears are most likely toast.

I'm driving around in 2wd until next week when I plan on having my mechanic take everything apart. I plan on taking photos to determine if we can learn anything new from what happened here.

I'm considering re-gearing since I may end up drinking some of the 35's cool aid in the future.

Decisions: ARB vs TJM ? I'm sure this debate has been beaten to death and I'll spend some time searching.....
 
Sorry to hear! Best of luck...You will be happy with an ARB.

You wouldn't have any pictures of what you did to the drive shaft and flanges? I am clueless...I think I understand what you did but am a visual learner....thanks!

Video coming next week. MtnAddict and I are making one that explains/shows what to do.
 
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Craig was a lot more calm and collected then I would have been in his situation. Narrow canyon, literally between a rock and well, more rocks. Just finding a flat spot to place the high lift jack was difficult. Sandy wash with wet rocks, catching and losing traction were too much for the weak two pinyon diff.
 
Craig was a lot more calm and collected then I would have been in his situation. Narrow canyon, literally between a rock and well, more rocks. Just finding a flat spot to place the high lift jack was difficult. Sandy wash with wet rocks, catching and losing traction were too much for the weak two pinyon diff.

He was probably thinking about the awesome increased gas mileage he was going to enjoy on his way home in 2wd ;)
 
I dropped my truck off at The Truck Shop which works on diff's and gears all day long. I should have some photos to share in a few hours as to exactly what happened. I'm probably going to just bite the bullet and re-gear....
 
So my diff is blow up as well, 99k miles...never wheeled too hard, a little disappointing.

Help guys. Should I get the ARB? The shop my truck is at now is an awesome mechanic, but he's not a fabricator.
 
So my diff is blow up as well, 99k miles...never wheeled too hard, a little disappointing.

Help guys. Should I get the ARB? The shop my truck is at now is an awesome mechanic, but he's not a fabricator.
Nothing needs to be fabricated, just get the ARB set up right, and possibly new gears if you want to do them (or if the they're damaged). I'm saving for this as well, these threads make me scared to wheel while I can't afford it (damn wedding...).
 
Thanks for the info.

I know the feeling, my son just turned 1 and I have another one on the way in May. Medical bills are unfriendly to people bitten by the mod bug.
 
Thank you
 

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