NCJeff, aren't you getting control arms later? If you haven't fixed caster at all on those 6" springs you are way negative and it's going to wander to say the least. That's lift, not tires, although I wouldn't expect great things out of a tire like that for road manners.
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NCJeff, aren't you getting control arms later? If you haven't fixed caster at all on those 6" springs you are way negative and it's going to wander to say the least. That's lift, not tires, although I wouldn't expect great things out of a tire like that for road manners.
Boggers Suck Too
I'm pretty much sold on them, they hook up like crazy in this read clay. Maybe up in Harlan i'd change my mind.
They do great except in side hold, they will slide sideways very easy on slick surfaces.
I run the Michelin XL's and am very happy with them. They work for the wheeling that I do on the East Coast. If they loose traction on our New England granite I will take the time to pull my winch line instead of using heavy throttle and risk blowing a birf.
MSGGrunt ever thought of running them the other way around? Looks like they may grip a little better reversed. Just a thought though.
Ever tried running them in reverse?? The side lugs look like they would grab better in that direction.
Boggers Suck Too
Agreed.
Been on the trail with a dude that could not go anywhere becuase of them. School Bus.
He was pissed. Wanted to sell his tires ASAP
For flat-land NC sand and mud, I think you picked a fine tire. And you can always just spend $50 for Slee front bumpstop drops and make some for the rear to get rid of the rubbing, and be done with it. Maybe in the fall I can meet up with you Wilmington guys when I go visit friends down there.
wait - did you do any rear of front fender well trimming?
I couldn't even turn to pull out of the parking lot when I first had the tires mounted on the Js.
Even with the Slee6 springs, I'd imagine you rub pretty heavily behind the front wheels...
A baby sledge fixed that for me.
I couldn't even turn to pull out of the parking lot when I first had the tires mounted on the Js.
Even with the Slee6 springs, I'd imagine you rub pretty heavily behind the front wheels...
A baby sledge fixed that for me.
Anyone take a grooving iron to XLs or XMLs to improve flexibility and traction? Grooving irons are a pretty inexpensive way to modify your tread and since you have no warranty on those tires give it a try. It should help both off road and wet road grip.
Grooving Iron
Grooving Iron
It seems to help, but if you're having to pay for a grooving iron, the minimal help it does isn't worth it. Unless you cut WAY deep, you wont see much more flex out of these tires.
Cut depth can be altered. It's been a while since I looked at the XLs on my dad's Mog but the 14.00x20s have ~1" of tread depth new which IIRC is more than than new 9.00x16 XLs or 325/85/16 XMLs, certainly in the used tire market. Grooving will make a difference you just need to design a pattern and start removing rubber. Are all the guys grooving Swamper's and Krawler's nuts? If it'll help an already flexible tire it'll certainly help something stiffer.
So what you're saying is after all the $$$$ you've sunk into your suspension and two sets of tires (XLs & Boggers) you couldn't justify ~$60 for a grooving iron, blades and a blade holder to at least give it a try? Unless you've cut your tires how can you say it won't work, sounds like pure speculation and web wheeling at its best.
This old boy is tuning up a Swamper but the video shows how to groove a tire. Skip the initial flaming of the tire and let your iron heat up unless you are a pyro.
Grooving a Swamper
So what you're saying is after all the $$$$ you've sunk into your suspension and two sets of tires (XLs & Boggers) you couldn't justify ~$60 for a grooving iron, blades and a blade holder to at least give it a try? Unless you've cut your tires how can you say it won't work, sounds like pure speculation and web wheeling at its best.
This old boy is tuning up a Swamper but the video shows how to groove a tire. Skip the initial flaming of the tire and let your iron heat up unless you are a pyro.
Grooving a Swamper
For $60 it might be worth it, but I was under the impression that grooving irons were $200+. I've seen cut XLs at URE and they didn't spin any less on the rocks than mine did, but he did lose a couple of tread blocks.