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Update: Frame number on the firewall plate matches the frame number etched into the frame. If the plate on the firewall had been attached to the firewall with screws, I would be suspect about a tub/plate switch. In this instance however it is attached by rivets. It appears to have been there since the rig was born. The trim and paint description matches the few remaining patches of the original paint that I have been able to uncover on the firewall, and in other odd, hard to reach parts of the tub. I am one of the most skeptical guys out there and I will always remain open to and investigate any indication of hoodwinkery ( it is getting late 
) but all of the available evidence seems now to point to that this is the original tub on the original frame. Not to disparage an entire country but in working with law enforcement here in my day job the crooks and there schemes here just are not that creative and never do their modern day schemes go to such a level of detail as popping off the plate switching tubs and riveting it back through the exact same holes in the new tub leaving behind paint to match the plate. This goes double for scams that were run back in the day. Again just because I'm a curious/stubborn cuss I will have the guys at the metal shop run a gauge on it when we can get the rig in for its refit. Henry James the 47th, I really want to thank you for your attention to detail and for the information re: the date of manufacture as I was wondering which year parts to order. Some of the bits are from pre 80 to 80 and others give an option of 81-83. As such my question to all, when did Toyota release their new model years, in August, September, October , November or December of a given year. Given that per the production codes ( kudos again to HJ's good eyes and great reference work) my bet is that this rig was manufactured during the change over on the assembly line, hence the tub looking like it is an earlier model year than 80 but it was the first to get a bath in the 81-83 paint schemes. Whatever the case apart from the stubborn sleuth in me my immediate concern is which part year do I order if I am given a choice, 80 or 81?
P.S. My GF says that this is the best example she has seen of what in the antique world is called provenance. Per she who must be paid attention to, antique dealers go through this exercise all the time when confronted by an odd example of a baroque desk etc. They pull it apart comparing the wood at the back of the drawers, the makers marks, checking years listed on bills of sale against old sales catalogs and dates of workshop operation. While
I find the comparison between car enthusiasts and antique dealers a little jarring at this hour, I see her point. I am still relatively new to this site but I really appreciate how many quality folks there are here who really try to help a fella out. It amazes me how much you guys pitch in with great info and really on point suggestions and how tos. Many, many thanks.
) but all of the available evidence seems now to point to that this is the original tub on the original frame. Not to disparage an entire country but in working with law enforcement here in my day job the crooks and there schemes here just are not that creative and never do their modern day schemes go to such a level of detail as popping off the plate switching tubs and riveting it back through the exact same holes in the new tub leaving behind paint to match the plate. This goes double for scams that were run back in the day. Again just because I'm a curious/stubborn cuss I will have the guys at the metal shop run a gauge on it when we can get the rig in for its refit. Henry James the 47th, I really want to thank you for your attention to detail and for the information re: the date of manufacture as I was wondering which year parts to order. Some of the bits are from pre 80 to 80 and others give an option of 81-83. As such my question to all, when did Toyota release their new model years, in August, September, October , November or December of a given year. Given that per the production codes ( kudos again to HJ's good eyes and great reference work) my bet is that this rig was manufactured during the change over on the assembly line, hence the tub looking like it is an earlier model year than 80 but it was the first to get a bath in the 81-83 paint schemes. Whatever the case apart from the stubborn sleuth in me my immediate concern is which part year do I order if I am given a choice, 80 or 81? P.S. My GF says that this is the best example she has seen of what in the antique world is called provenance. Per she who must be paid attention to
, antique dealers go through this exercise all the time when confronted by an odd example of a baroque desk etc. They pull it apart comparing the wood at the back of the drawers, the makers marks, checking years listed on bills of sale against old sales catalogs and dates of workshop operation. While I find the comparison between car enthusiasts and antique dealers a little jarring at this hour, I see her point. I am still relatively new to this site but I really appreciate how many quality folks there are here who really try to help a fella out. It amazes me how much you guys pitch in with great info and really on point suggestions and how tos. Many, many thanks.
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Let me know How the multi meter testing goes. BTW so far so good the new battery cranked the engine over and everything went fine today. Again funny you mentioned wiring but I was looking at SOR wiring replacement kits just this morning...what is it they say about great minds.
I'm glad that it worked out. Send me a link for these guys when you get a chance.
