AHC PROBLEM LC200

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Hi Ladies and Gentlemen

I am not a LC 200 owner yet.
However I have been asked to look at an AHC problem on a Cruiser belonging to a friend.
This Cruiser has been modified to suits its owners disability needs. The Lady owner is in real need of getting the Cruiser back on the road as she is basically isolated at home without it.

The simple history.

This is a 2007 LC200
It suffered a burst front hydraulic shock and I believe it was driven for a few days down on the bump stops.

A new shock was installed however no one has been able to get the system going again.
A very talented young auto electrician has had a go and another mechanic.
They have had no joy.

I have just recently had a significant AHC journey with my LC 100 and eventually I solved my problem by taking the AHC pump off, totally disassembling, thoroughly cleansing including the two small micro filters.
After weeks of trial and error, when I reinstalled the pump my AHC problem was solved.

So I took the AHC pump out of the LC200 yesterday. Did a thorough cleanse.
I rebuilt it, checked it was running and more importantly made sure it was pumping fluid.

Howeve sadly this has not solved this cruisers problem.

One thing I see is that the AHC OFF Light is constantly blinking from the instant you turn on the ignition.

I have carried out a AHC RESET but this has not worked.

However when I have crossed poles Tc and E1 and pressed the brake pedal 9 times within 3 seconds, the AHC OFF Light did change its blinking sequence.

It went from a regular 1 second On Off On Off continuous to a OFF OFF pause OFF OFF OFF pause continuous pattern.
But when you finalise the reset process and go back to a normal start up, it instantly goes back to a continuous flashing On Off pattern even when you start the cruiser.

I would truly appreciate any and all advice or guidance on this please.
I have checked all AHC fuses and the AHC Relay under the hood.

I’m not sure yet about the fuses inside the passenger side inside kick panel.
Are they the same layout as the LC100 fuses in there?

The AHC ECU was tested as well by the other auto electrician before I received the cruiser. He could not find any fault in the ECU.

I DID run the hydraulic pump manually and the oil level in the tank dropped by about an inch but I could not see the cruiser rise either front or back.
However it prove to me that the pump was moving AHC oil out to the system somewhere.
I suspect it probably just filled the main barrel actuator but not any of the globes or the hydraulic rams / shocks.

Any help or guidance will be much appreciated.
I’m hoping my friend #Indrocruise will join in with his views as well.

Thank you.
URTWOB.
 
Hi Ladies and Gentlemen

I am not a LC 200 owner yet.
However I have been asked to look at an AHC problem on a Cruiser belonging to a friend.
This Cruiser has been modified to suits its owners disability needs. The Lady owner is in real need of getting the Cruiser back on the road as she is basically isolated at home without it.

The simple history.

This is a 2007 LC200
It suffered a burst front hydraulic shock and I believe it was driven for a few days down on the bump stops.

A new shock was installed however no one has been able to get the system going again.
A very talented young auto electrician has had a go and another mechanic.
They have had no joy.

I have just recently had a significant AHC journey with my LC 100 and eventually I solved my problem by taking the AHC pump off, totally disassembling, thoroughly cleansing including the two small micro filters.
After weeks of trial and error, when I reinstalled the pump my AHC problem was solved.

So I took the AHC pump out of the LC200 yesterday. Did a thorough cleanse.
I rebuilt it, checked it was running and more importantly made sure it was pumping fluid.

Howeve sadly this has not solved this cruisers problem.

One thing I see is that the AHC OFF Light is constantly blinking from the instant you turn on the ignition.

I have carried out a AHC RESET but this has not worked.

However when I have crossed poles Tc and E1 and pressed the brake pedal 9 times within 3 seconds, the AHC OFF Light did change its blinking sequence.

It went from a regular 1 second On Off On Off continuous to a OFF OFF pause OFF OFF OFF pause continuous pattern.
But when you finalise the reset process and go back to a normal start up, it instantly goes back to a continuous flashing On Off pattern even when you start the cruiser.

I would truly appreciate any and all advice or guidance on this please.
I have checked all AHC fuses and the AHC Relay under the hood.

I’m not sure yet about the fuses inside the passenger side inside kick panel.
Are they the same layout as the LC100 fuses in there?

The AHC ECU was tested as well by the other auto electrician before I received the cruiser. He could not find any fault in the ECU.

I DID run the hydraulic pump manually and the oil level in the tank dropped by about an inch but I could not see the cruiser rise either front or back.
However it prove to me that the pump was moving AHC oil out to the system somewhere.
I suspect it probably just filled the main barrel actuator but not any of the globes or the hydraulic rams / shocks.

Any help or guidance will be much appreciated.
I’m hoping my friend #Indrocruise will join in with his views as well.

Thank you.
URTWOB.
Sounds like your first step is to get a version of Techstream running and pull codes from the ECU. The ECU is not happy with the state of some part of the system because you are getting the flashing light in the dashboard before anything happens. Running the pump without the ECU opening valves won't do anything but blow out the tubes most likely, so I wouldn't do that anymore.

There is a ECU controlled valve cluster after the pump that has to open once the pump has started for the truck to lift. Once height is reached the valves close and the pump turns back off, so if you run the pump without the valves opening, you are just running pressure against a bunch of closed valves into a single hydraulic tube.
 
Sounds like your first step is to get a version of Techstream running and pull codes from the ECU. The ECU is not happy with the state of some part of the system because you are getting the flashing light in the dashboard before anything happens. Running the pump without the ECU opening valves won't do anything but blow out the tubes most likely, so I wouldn't do that anymore.

Thank you #lx200in. There is a ECU controlled valve cluster after the pump that has to open once the pump has started for the truck to lift. Once height is reached the valves close and the pump turns back off, so if you run the pump without the valves opening, you are just running pressure against a bunch of closed valves into a single hydraulic tube.
Thank you #lx200inAR: for such a good and educational reply my friend. Yes I was a little concerned about making the pump pump out against a mechanical blockage thus overloading the pump etc.

As regards Techstream.
We are from Ireland / UK.
Unfortunately we have a problem in our region in ref to Techstream. Our system is MOBD not OBD and as such we find it very hard to get Techstream to run unless we opt to go with the £2000 - £3000 system from Toyota.

I had actually downloaded the brilliant system as provided on this Forum and I had purchased what I thought was the relevant connecting cable. But alas all to no avail.

It was the brilliant IH8MUD Forum member #Indrocruise who gracefully explained that I didn’t have the OBD based system. So all my efforts to set up Techstream ultimately failed.

I really appreciate your info re the continuous blinking AHC OFF LIGHT. Am I correct in saying that you believe it is something “down-stream” from the ECU that is causing the problem. Or in other words the ECU is working correctly and is signalling that some of the other down-line sensors are faulty?
 
I would +1 on the idea of doing anything you can to get Techstream running. Not only will it give you any potential codes, but it also has an AHC re-initialization/levelling procedure. I haven't ran it myself, but I know the local tech did run it on my LX when I was having issues.
 
Thank you #lx200inAR: for such a good and educational reply my friend. Yes I was a little concerned about making the pump pump out against a mechanical blockage thus overloading the pump etc.

As regards Techstream.
We are from Ireland / UK.
Unfortunately we have a problem in our region in ref to Techstream. Our system is MOBD not OBD and as such we find it very hard to get Techstream to run unless we opt to go with the £2000 - £3000 system from Toyota.

I had actually downloaded the brilliant system as provided on this Forum and I had purchased what I thought was the relevant connecting cable. But alas all to no avail.

It was the brilliant IH8MUD Forum member #Indrocruise who gracefully explained that I didn’t have the OBD based system. So all my efforts to set up Techstream ultimately failed.

I really appreciate your info re the continuous blinking AHC OFF LIGHT. Am I correct in saying that you believe it is something “down-stream” from the ECU that is causing the problem. Or in other words the ECU is working correctly and is signalling that some of the other down-line sensors are faulty?
Did you see this post?


He was able to use a ELM327 device to scan the AHC ECU. In that same thread others mentioned being able to use a MiniVCI and Techstream on a MOBD vehicle. But i can't say that i have any experience with that. I use a Carista (ELM327) device with the OBD Fusion app (W/ Toyota pack) and can read AHC ECU data. I assume that means it would give me an DTCs if I had any for that system.
 
Won't any MOBD code reader pull the DTCs? Let's start with that and then address what we can via DTC based resolution.

I'm glad to see that you have go the pump primed and working, that is usually the biggest issue. Please do add some detail on what you did for the pump and micro filter cleaning, we've been looking for more beta on how to do this succesfully . . .

Tell us about what bleeding and fluid replacement you have performed already.
 
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Won't any MOBD code reader pull the DTCs? Let's start with that and then address what we can via DTC based resolution.

I'm glad to see that you have go the pump primed and working, that is usually the biggest issue. Please do add some detail on what you did for the pump and micro filter cleaning, we've been looking for more beta on how to do this succesfully . . .

Tell us about what bleeding and fluid replacement you have performed already.
Thank you for your reply #grinchy.

OK, in response to #grinchy request I have written out the whole AHC pump disassembly, cleanse and rebuild.

It was surprisingly easier to get to the dissembled stage than I had anticipated, but alas I did make a few mistakes, the biggest one was not taking photographs of each stage and not carefully marking each component to ensure they were replaced precisely and exactly from where they had been removed.



As regards the photographs I will indicate where #indrocruise has kindly provided a small catalogue of photographs for forum members benefit.

May I just thank Indrocruise once again for these photographs and all the other hello and guidance he has given me.

Please find photographs on
Definitive List of AHC maintenance items;
and go to #Indrocruise#943 item or post no #943.



In particular as IndroCruise highlighted the gear wheels would of most certainly been better removed by somehow marking them so as they could be replaced with the exact same teeth and gears meshing with each other, tooth by tooth. I will admit I did study them but for the life of me I could not think of a way to mark them that would not possibly interfere with the precision environment in which they must work. So I confess I omitted to mark my gear wheels in this case.



However, I had to keep on moving despite these anomalies.



To my great pleasure I found quite a considerable volume of sludge inside the the pump housing End Cap. It is The End cap with 3 screw hole or fixing points and the large “Cross or plus sign on it”.

The AHC oil temperature sensor is attached to this cap.



To my utter surprise and to be honest, delight, I found there was approximately half of an egg cup full of sludge inside this End Cap.



I used rubber gloves throughout this whole disassemble and reassemble process, continuously jetting the rubber gloves with the aerosol carbon cleaner to ensure the gloves were kept spotless.



I cleaned all components thoroughly before progressing on to disassembling the actual primary pump mechanism itself, the small module that holds the two gear wheels. I will call this assembly The Primary Pump Assembly.



Each and every part was washed and cleaned thoroughly.

Please forgive my crude methods but I found that using a spray can of aerosol carbon cleaner, a small metal pick and a tooth brush to spray and clean each component to a pristine shine.



I then embarked upon getting the two small filters removed. This was quite a job but boy was I glad I persevered.



May I at this stage once again thank Indrocruise for providing an extensive library of photographs and his detailed description of the pump being taken apart stage by stage.



May I also apologise for not taking photographs as I went through this process. I note how you professional contributors make great use of both photographs and video.

I will endeavour to progress to the use of photographs soon.



However These pictures supplied by Indrocruise are of immense help to anyone contemplating taking on this job.



These pictures are also extremely useful in understanding the following observations and suggestions as regards to rebuilding the AHC pump.



Now back to the Pump filters;



I tried quite a few methods to withdraw them from the housing, initially without success, in the end however I found that using a perfect fitting wood screw was a perfect solution.

I ground off the point of the screw to prevent it from damaging the very small and very fine mesh of the filter.



I screwed the screw in very tentatively making sure not to go too far (thus avoiding jamming the filter) and when I judged the screw had sufficient grip I extracted the screw and filter by mocking up a direct lift cantilever type affair that lifted the screw in a directly straight upwards trojectory. Once I got the “tensions” all as near as I could gauge this actually worked very well.



Now I have read in a few posts that some folk have suggested that due to the difficulty of extraction of these very petite and fragile filters, that they opted to not take them out but alternatively they jetted hydrocarbon cleaning fluid both directions from the inlet and outlet orifices.



I fully understand this decision, but upon my findings I don’t agree with trying to clean this way.



This was because I found it was very difficult to clean the small meshes in these petite filters when I had them totally removed from there enclosures never mind attempting to do so by simply blowing from either end of the enclosure.



I found that the debris which was a very fine sand like material was almost embedded like concrete inside the small mesh and to make it even more difficult these small meshes have small overlaps of mesh (via their manufacturing process) that must be gently manipulated by squeezing between your fingers to open up these small overlaps or flaps to ensure that all that dust like grain is removed. You will find a very fine screwdriver or even a needle to be invaluable in cleaning these petite screens or mesh but I must stress, be very very careful.



It took me about 10 minutes to clean each of these filters thoroughly.

The degree of cleaning needed could not be achieved if the filters are not removed out of there receptacles or enclosures.



One of the filters (the oil inlet) was much more congested than the other.



I then took a very fine grade nail file and tidied up the top of the brass collar of the small mesh filter to ensure any scrapes or abrasions caused by my extraction were filed down smooth in readiness for reinsertion back into the respective orifices in the respective pump body parts.



When the pump body components are all thoroughly thoroughly cleaned ensuring that all the internal channels and journals are cleansed with certainty that the unseen portals or journals or oil-ways are absolutely spotlessly cleansed, then and only then the small filters must be reinserted.

I found it was necessary to press these small filters back into place.

I used vice grips with small pieces of rubber to protect the components from any damage.



This next stage is very very important,



The gear wheels and gear “axle” are a single unit with the gear wheel and the axle being milled as a single piece.



These axles fit into two small hubs that in turn press freely into the pump housing.



Here I made what could be a very significant observation,



There is a very petite cut-away or “Nick” machined out of the bottom edge of one of these hubs.



(This “cutaway or Nick can be seen in some of #indrocruise photographs)



It is vital that these hubs are replaced hub by hub, back into the housing precisely back into the position they came out of.



Thankfully there are only two options or ways to instal these hubs into the housing.



For ease of explaining from here, let’s just say there is the right way and there is the wrong way.



However, installing the right way the fluid can flow unimpeded on its proper pathway,

However installing the wrong way, the pump cannot function as the aforementioned “nick” is in the wrong place thus the fluid cannot flow unimpeded.



(If you were not aware of this observation, you could well complete the entire assembly before realising the pump was not going to work.)



I know I may be wrong here but so far I have never heard anyone mention this small “Nick” and boy is it not a vital part of the pumps mechanism.



I have read and studies hundreds of posts as well as watched many videos but to date I have never heard of or been told to look out for this petite “Nick”.

I suggest this might be the reason why so many people conclude their pump is obsolete after reassemble but in reality it was just that this oil-way was blocked by inserting this hub in the wrong way.



Now as I admitted earlier I didn’t take notes or photograph indeed I took no actual records of the disassemble as I should have done. I was so focused in attention to detail and I will admit one of my bad habits is to rush to reassemble so as to not forget how I disassembled.



Another word for this is “PANICK”



Boy did I have a problem here,

“How do I know which way to re-instal these hubs”



In the end I did a miniature mock up of the assembly and using a fine nozzle and compressed air, I blew the air into the oil inlet hole on the housing, and indeed yes my first attempt was wrong as the air was not getting through. So now I knew to insert the hubs the alternative way.



So by the skin of my teeth I got past this hurdle.



I however could not get out of the next slip up so easily.



I hadn’t marked and recorded exactly where the teeth of the gear wheels met, tooth by tooth.

In this my friends I was defeated.



I had to proceed and hope that the pump would function for me with just a random guess with positioning the two gear wheels.



I wish to share another idea here if I may.



[Public Health Warning]

The following is probably over-kill.



When I was assembling the components of the primary pump assembly I set up a very clean plastic jar in which I filled with New AHC fluid.

Always making sure my gloves were spotless.



I then set the components of the primary assembly into the AHC fluid and I assembled each component under the fluid ensuring each orifice was filled with AHC fluid from the onset of assembly.



This method also meant that all the components of the primary pump were assembled while submerged in the AHC fluid thereby ensuring that all the components were both adequately lubricated as the assembly progressed and it presented the possibility of removing potentially troublesome airlock problems.



Next step is to attach the Main Block of the pump to the primary pump module.

Being conscious of the need to avoid any and all air pockets I unscrewed the AHC Fluid pressure sensor out of the main block, filled the pressure switch orifice with AHC Fluid and then after testing the sensor electrically I reinstated the AHC fluid pressure sensor back into the main block. I then set the “main block” on its side with the large End Cap O Ring looking straight upwards and the electric motor directly beneath sitting on the bench.



There is a second much smaller O Ring sitting inside the large O Ring, on this block face. It is vital this small o ring is kept in its place.



( I promise this all sounds way much more difficult than it really is)



It is crucial to make sure the second small O ring is kept in place. I believe this O Ring seals the faces of the two assemblies at the orifice that allows fluid access to the pressure sensor.



I filled AHC fluid into the upper face of this main block before dropping the primary pump assembly down into the block. Once again attempting to ensure that all orifices were filled with fluid and all joints lubricated.



(This is not a perfect science and it is not possible to do the complete assembly without lifting the components out of the “oil-bath”



There are a two other O RIngs who’s locations are obvious. However these two small O Rings have two small steel backing washers.

It is vital to replace these washers and O Rings precisely in the order they come of.



However thankfully this is also intuitive in nature and can be worked out.

The washer and O Ring sit into a recess, with the steel backing ring going in first. Think of it as a shim that helps the subsequent O ring retain pressure.

So The washer goes into the orifice first, then the O Ring.



One other observation I made was that if you happen to slightly over tighten the primary pump assembly to the “main block” the pump will be too tight and the motor won’t be able to turn the gears in the gear Housing.



(There are proper torque settings for tightening these four studs, but I have not yet found them at this time.)



So I just trusted in my experience and I lightly tightened each stud while at the same time I tested the motor by connecting to a 12volt battery, thereby being able to identify when I was coming closer to the “Sweet Spot”



Once I found the sweet spot I backed all the screws out a half turn, gave the pump a wee tap on the bench, and then brought the tension back up to where each screw should be. (Ie, I don’t trust a bolt being left as finished with a loosening move, it must always be a tightening move)



Now the final “trick” I have to offer is as follows.



The final step of this stage is to attach The End Cap or housing, the black cap with three stud holes in which the primary pump assembly is housed. Or the black cap with the pressed “+” sign and with the temperature sensor attached.



Once again in an effort to ensure all orifices are filled with AHC Fluid, I got a large plastic dish.

The plastic dish was of a size that I could set the the End Cap upside down with the three protruding stud hole tags sitting on the edge of the plastic container.



I then filled the End Cap with AHC fluid.



Next I set the whole pump assembly down onto the end cap submerging the primary pump assembly into the AHC fluid once again in an effort to minimise any and all air pockets as the pump is assembled. The overflow of AHC fluid dropped cleanly into the plastic dish below thus saving it cleanly.



It is very important to make sure this dish is kept very clean so as to be able to reuse the overflowing AHC fluid.



I carefully inserted and tightened the three studs thereby sealing the End Cap onto the whole pump body.



All of the above “exercises” were conducted in an effort to ensure all the internal cavities of the pump were filled with clean AHC fluid and that all moving parts were adequately lubricated throughout the assembly.



Next I built up the entire pump assembly including the oil reservoir. I plugged the oil out port loosely.

I put a litre of oil in the reservoir, connected a 12v supply and observed the pump, pumping oil out the outlet port, pushing out my loose plug at the same time. Then when happy the pump was pumping fluid I plugged the hole loosely again. (Small bit of rag)





And Finally,



I uncoupled the cruisers negative battery earths and didn’t refit for periods 20 minutes.



This was to attempt to rest the AHC ECU.



Ps, When fitting the AHC FLUID reservoir on top of the pump, I filled the reservoir receptor orifice with AHC fluid once again to attempt avoid any air pockets.

I then re installed the reservoir onto the pump.



I put some more oil into the reservoir.



I re-installed the AHC pump assembly back into the cruiser. I re-joined the three plugs, the 12volt motor supply, the temperature sensor and the pressure sensor and the main AHC Fluid “out” line.

I then filled the reservoir to 2/3rds with AHC Fluid.



I bled the outlet pipe again using the 12volt direct method, and then retightened the output pipe.



I then reconnected my battery negative terminals.



I wasn’t sure if I would need to use “The Active Test “ to get the pump going, but I decided to just try.



To my great pleasure I noticed the AHC FLUID exiting the reservoir at quite a speed, and eventually after perhaps 2 or 3 ignition off / on and start engine again cycles.



And magically for the first time in over 3 months the front of the cruised began to rise. I had to keep cycling the ignition from on / off and restart a number of times and was delighted to See the rear of the vehicle rising.



I must admit I was very surprised that the cruiser lifted right up to its maximum height without any further bleeding.



I knew i needed to bleed all the 5 points a few times the next day but

As it was now quite late here I decided to take the cruiser for a drive and I was of to bed.

When bleeding I started with the furthest away bleed point and worked forwards towards the nearest bleed point to the oil reservoir.
Before starting I raised and lowered the system a few times, and then I went from L up to N or neutral before starting bleed process.
I used genuine OEM TOYOTA AHC FLUID ONLY.

IT is crucial to have someone with you when bleeding. For two very important reasons, A, You are lifting and lowering a 3.5t vehicle while lying looking underneath it, real potential to get hurt.

B, You need someone to make sure the oil never depletes out of the AHC oil reservoir as this will introduce air into the system thus defeating the entire bleeding process.
 
Thank you for your reply #grinchy.

OK, in response to #grinchy request I have written out the whole AHC pump disassembly, cleanse and rebuild.

It was surprisingly easier to get to the dissembled stage than I had anticipated, but alas I did make a few mistakes, the biggest one was not taking photographs of each stage and not carefully marking each component to ensure they were replaced precisely and exactly from where they had been removed.



As regards the photographs I will indicate where #indrocruise has kindly provided a small catalogue of photographs for forum members benefit.

May I just thank Indrocruise once again for these photographs and all the other hello and guidance he has given me.

Please find photographs on
Definitive List of AHC maintenance items;
and go to #Indrocruise#943 item or post no #943.



In particular as IndroCruise highlighted the gear wheels would of most certainly been better removed by somehow marking them so as they could be replaced with the exact same teeth and gears meshing with each other, tooth by tooth. I will admit I did study them but for the life of me I could not think of a way to mark them that would not possibly interfere with the precision environment in which they must work. So I confess I omitted to mark my gear wheels in this case.



However, I had to keep on moving despite these anomalies.



To my great pleasure I found quite a considerable volume of sludge inside the the pump housing End Cap. It is The End cap with 3 screw hole or fixing points and the large “Cross or plus sign on it”.

The AHC oil temperature sensor is attached to this cap.



To my utter surprise and to be honest, delight, I found there was approximately half of an egg cup full of sludge inside this End Cap.



I used rubber gloves throughout this whole disassemble and reassemble process, continuously jetting the rubber gloves with the aerosol carbon cleaner to ensure the gloves were kept spotless.



I cleaned all components thoroughly before progressing on to disassembling the actual primary pump mechanism itself, the small module that holds the two gear wheels. I will call this assembly The Primary Pump Assembly.



Each and every part was washed and cleaned thoroughly.

Please forgive my crude methods but I found that using a spray can of aerosol carbon cleaner, a small metal pick and a tooth brush to spray and clean each component to a pristine shine.



I then embarked upon getting the two small filters removed. This was quite a job but boy was I glad I persevered.



May I at this stage once again thank Indrocruise for providing an extensive library of photographs and his detailed description of the pump being taken apart stage by stage.



May I also apologise for not taking photographs as I went through this process. I note how you professional contributors make great use of both photographs and video.

I will endeavour to progress to the use of photographs soon.



However These pictures supplied by Indrocruise are of immense help to anyone contemplating taking on this job.



These pictures are also extremely useful in understanding the following observations and suggestions as regards to rebuilding the AHC pump.



Now back to the Pump filters;



I tried quite a few methods to withdraw them from the housing, initially without success, in the end however I found that using a perfect fitting wood screw was a perfect solution.

I ground off the point of the screw to prevent it from damaging the very small and very fine mesh of the filter.



I screwed the screw in very tentatively making sure not to go too far (thus avoiding jamming the filter) and when I judged the screw had sufficient grip I extracted the screw and filter by mocking up a direct lift cantilever type affair that lifted the screw in a directly straight upwards trojectory. Once I got the “tensions” all as near as I could gauge this actually worked very well.



Now I have read in a few posts that some folk have suggested that due to the difficulty of extraction of these very petite and fragile filters, that they opted to not take them out but alternatively they jetted hydrocarbon cleaning fluid both directions from the inlet and outlet orifices.



I fully understand this decision, but upon my findings I don’t agree with trying to clean this way.



This was because I found it was very difficult to clean the small meshes in these petite filters when I had them totally removed from there enclosures never mind attempting to do so by simply blowing from either end of the enclosure.



I found that the debris which was a very fine sand like material was almost embedded like concrete inside the small mesh and to make it even more difficult these small meshes have small overlaps of mesh (via their manufacturing process) that must be gently manipulated by squeezing between your fingers to open up these small overlaps or flaps to ensure that all that dust like grain is removed. You will find a very fine screwdriver or even a needle to be invaluable in cleaning these petite screens or mesh but I must stress, be very very careful.



It took me about 10 minutes to clean each of these filters thoroughly.

The degree of cleaning needed could not be achieved if the filters are not removed out of there receptacles or enclosures.



One of the filters (the oil inlet) was much more congested than the other.



I then took a very fine grade nail file and tidied up the top of the brass collar of the small mesh filter to ensure any scrapes or abrasions caused by my extraction were filed down smooth in readiness for reinsertion back into the respective orifices in the respective pump body parts.



When the pump body components are all thoroughly thoroughly cleaned ensuring that all the internal channels and journals are cleansed with certainty that the unseen portals or journals or oil-ways are absolutely spotlessly cleansed, then and only then the small filters must be reinserted.

I found it was necessary to press these small filters back into place.

I used vice grips with small pieces of rubber to protect the components from any damage.



This next stage is very very important,



The gear wheels and gear “axle” are a single unit with the gear wheel and the axle being milled as a single piece.



These axles fit into two small hubs that in turn press freely into the pump housing.



Here I made what could be a very significant observation,



There is a very petite cut-away or “Nick” machined out of the bottom edge of one of these hubs.



(This “cutaway or Nick can be seen in some of #indrocruise photographs)



It is vital that these hubs are replaced hub by hub, back into the housing precisely back into the position they came out of.



Thankfully there are only two options or ways to instal these hubs into the housing.



For ease of explaining from here, let’s just say there is the right way and there is the wrong way.



However, installing the right way the fluid can flow unimpeded on its proper pathway,

However installing the wrong way, the pump cannot function as the aforementioned “nick” is in the wrong place thus the fluid cannot flow unimpeded.



(If you were not aware of this observation, you could well complete the entire assembly before realising the pump was not going to work.)



I know I may be wrong here but so far I have never heard anyone mention this small “Nick” and boy is it not a vital part of the pumps mechanism.



I have read and studies hundreds of posts as well as watched many videos but to date I have never heard of or been told to look out for this petite “Nick”.

I suggest this might be the reason why so many people conclude their pump is obsolete after reassemble but in reality it was just that this oil-way was blocked by inserting this hub in the wrong way.



Now as I admitted earlier I didn’t take notes or photograph indeed I took no actual records of the disassemble as I should have done. I was so focused in attention to detail and I will admit one of my bad habits is to rush to reassemble so as to not forget how I disassembled.



Another word for this is “PANICK”



Boy did I have a problem here,

“How do I know which way to re-instal these hubs”



In the end I did a miniature mock up of the assembly and using a fine nozzle and compressed air, I blew the air into the oil inlet hole on the housing, and indeed yes my first attempt was wrong as the air was not getting through. So now I knew to insert the hubs the alternative way.



So by the skin of my teeth I got past this hurdle.



I however could not get out of the next slip up so easily.



I hadn’t marked and recorded exactly where the teeth of the gear wheels met, tooth by tooth.

In this my friends I was defeated.



I had to proceed and hope that the pump would function for me with just a random guess with positioning the two gear wheels.



I wish to share another idea here if I may.



[Public Health Warning]

The following is probably over-kill.



When I was assembling the components of the primary pump assembly I set up a very clean plastic jar in which I filled with New AHC fluid.

Always making sure my gloves were spotless.



I then set the components of the primary assembly into the AHC fluid and I assembled each component under the fluid ensuring each orifice was filled with AHC fluid from the onset of assembly.



This method also meant that all the components of the primary pump were assembled while submerged in the AHC fluid thereby ensuring that all the components were both adequately lubricated as the assembly progressed and it presented the possibility of removing potentially troublesome airlock problems.



Next step is to attach the Main Block of the pump to the primary pump module.

Being conscious of the need to avoid any and all air pockets I unscrewed the AHC Fluid pressure sensor out of the main block, filled the pressure switch orifice with AHC Fluid and then after testing the sensor electrically I reinstated the AHC fluid pressure sensor back into the main block. I then set the “main block” on its side with the large End Cap O Ring looking straight upwards and the electric motor directly beneath sitting on the bench.



There is a second much smaller O Ring sitting inside the large O Ring, on this block face. It is vital this small o ring is kept in its place.



( I promise this all sounds way much more difficult than it really is)



It is crucial to make sure the second small O ring is kept in place. I believe this O Ring seals the faces of the two assemblies at the orifice that allows fluid access to the pressure sensor.



I filled AHC fluid into the upper face of this main block before dropping the primary pump assembly down into the block. Once again attempting to ensure that all orifices were filled with fluid and all joints lubricated.



(This is not a perfect science and it is not possible to do the complete assembly without lifting the components out of the “oil-bath”



There are a two other O RIngs who’s locations are obvious. However these two small O Rings have two small steel backing washers.

It is vital to replace these washers and O Rings precisely in the order they come of.



However thankfully this is also intuitive in nature and can be worked out.

The washer and O Ring sit into a recess, with the steel backing ring going in first. Think of it as a shim that helps the subsequent O ring retain pressure.

So The washer goes into the orifice first, then the O Ring.



One other observation I made was that if you happen to slightly over tighten the primary pump assembly to the “main block” the pump will be too tight and the motor won’t be able to turn the gears in the gear Housing.



(There are proper torque settings for tightening these four studs, but I have not yet found them at this time.)



So I just trusted in my experience and I lightly tightened each stud while at the same time I tested the motor by connecting to a 12volt battery, thereby being able to identify when I was coming closer to the “Sweet Spot”



Once I found the sweet spot I backed all the screws out a half turn, gave the pump a wee tap on the bench, and then brought the tension back up to where each screw should be. (Ie, I don’t trust a bolt being left as finished with a loosening move, it must always be a tightening move)



Now the final “trick” I have to offer is as follows.



The final step of this stage is to attach The End Cap or housing, the black cap with three stud holes in which the primary pump assembly is housed. Or the black cap with the pressed “+” sign and with the temperature sensor attached.



Once again in an effort to ensure all orifices are filled with AHC Fluid, I got a large plastic dish.

The plastic dish was of a size that I could set the the End Cap upside down with the three protruding stud hole tags sitting on the edge of the plastic container.



I then filled the End Cap with AHC fluid.



Next I set the whole pump assembly down onto the end cap submerging the primary pump assembly into the AHC fluid once again in an effort to minimise any and all air pockets as the pump is assembled. The overflow of AHC fluid dropped cleanly into the plastic dish below thus saving it cleanly.



It is very important to make sure this dish is kept very clean so as to be able to reuse the overflowing AHC fluid.



I carefully inserted and tightened the three studs thereby sealing the End Cap onto the whole pump body.



All of the above “exercises” were conducted in an effort to ensure all the internal cavities of the pump were filled with clean AHC fluid and that all moving parts were adequately lubricated throughout the assembly.



Next I built up the entire pump assembly including the oil reservoir. I plugged the oil out port loosely.

I put a litre of oil in the reservoir, connected a 12v supply and observed the pump, pumping oil out the outlet port, pushing out my loose plug at the same time. Then when happy the pump was pumping fluid I plugged the hole loosely again. (Small bit of rag)





And Finally,



I uncoupled the cruisers negative battery earths and didn’t refit for periods 20 minutes.



This was to attempt to rest the AHC ECU.



Ps, When fitting the AHC FLUID reservoir on top of the pump, I filled the reservoir receptor orifice with AHC fluid once again to attempt avoid any air pockets.

I then re installed the reservoir onto the pump.



I put some more oil into the reservoir.



I re-installed the AHC pump assembly back into the cruiser. I re-joined the three plugs, the 12volt motor supply, the temperature sensor and the pressure sensor and the main AHC Fluid “out” line.

I then filled the reservoir to 2/3rds with AHC Fluid.



I bled the outlet pipe again using the 12volt direct method, and then retightened the output pipe.



I then reconnected my battery negative terminals.



I wasn’t sure if I would need to use “The Active Test “ to get the pump going, but I decided to just try.



To my great pleasure I noticed the AHC FLUID exiting the reservoir at quite a speed, and eventually after perhaps 2 or 3 ignition off / on and start engine again cycles.



And magically for the first time in over 3 months the front of the cruised began to rise. I had to keep cycling the ignition from on / off and restart a number of times and was delighted to See the rear of the vehicle rising.



I must admit I was very surprised that the cruiser lifted right up to its maximum height without any further bleeding.



I knew i needed to bleed all the 5 points a few times the next day but

As it was now quite late here I decided to take the cruiser for a drive and I was of to bed.

When bleeding I started with the furthest away bleed point and worked forwards towards the nearest bleed point to the oil reservoir.
Before starting I raised and lowered the system a few times, and then I went from L up to N or neutral before starting bleed process.
I used genuine OEM TOYOTA AHC FLUID ONLY.

IT is crucial to have someone with you when bleeding. For two very important reasons, A, You are lifting and lowering a 3.5t vehicle while lying looking underneath it, real potential to get hurt.

B, You need someone to make sure the oil never depletes out of the AHC oil reservoir as this will introduce air into the system thus defeating the entire bleeding process.
Thanks for the extensive write up! @Urtwob you’re a magician.:) I’ve got this post bookmarked!

Can we take it from the last couple comments that the truck is functional again? Or is it still showing the ahc error?
 
Sorry to jump in with a dumb question but there are AHC reset and reinitialization procedures?

Can anyone link or point me to it? I was not aware of an ECU reset of any kind. I thought it was pretty much locked down.

Thanks!
 
Thanks for the extensive write up! @Urtwob you’re a magician.:) I’ve got this post bookmarked!

Can we take it from the last couple comments that the truck is functional again? Or is it still showing the ahc error?
Oops
Sorry to have not completed the story #grinchy:

Yes to my utter amazement and after a five week long campaign it was actually almost with disbelief that I stood and watched the vehicle start to rise up again.

Now from memory I think it didn’t actually rise instantly, but I noticed that the oil level was lowering in the oil reservoir so I knew the pump was pumping oil somewhere.

There was a sequence if I can remember correctly.

I think I turned on the ignition, pressed the “AHC button once for “UP”
Then started the cruiser
The AHC pump would run “or pump” for a number of second before the systems sensors realised the pressures were still wrong and shut down the AHC again.

However I had by then realised that as long as the AHC pump was running and AHC oil level was lowering in the tank, then all I had to do was repeat that sequence.

Turn on ignition
Press AHC “Up” once,
Then start cruiser
Then wait as it ran for a number of seconds until the system sensors switch it off again.

I made sure to Top Up the reservoir and just kept running this cycle or sequence.

Eventually I saw the front end of the car start to rise, and then the rear.

However eventually I can only presume the oil pressure was building up sufficient as to not trigger the AHC OFF safety.

On that particular evening the cruiser AHC had started to operate Properly and even though I knew it still needed to be bled properly, I was so pleased to see the cruiser up off the bump stops I couldn’t help but go for a drive on the bumpiest roads I could find.
I do admit, like a kid at Christmas with a new toy 🤠🤠
 
Sorry to jump in with a dumb question but there are AHC reset and reinitialization procedures?

Can anyone link or point me to it? I was not aware of an ECU reset of any kind. I thought it was pretty much locked down.

Thanks!
Hi #Anymal

Yes there is a AHC reset procedure.

As I still have been unable to get Techstream running I had to do the manual reset.

Here are the directions my friend.

I used a wire clip to simply join the pins in the OBD On Board Diagnostics module just inside the upper engine bay wing.
Small plastic box, and you simply read the pin positions from inside the lid.


AHC RESET
JUMP pins Tc and E1

On passenger side under engine hood.
Then,
Turn on ignition;
Then
Hit the brake pedal 8 times extremely fast within 3 seconds,
This should reset the system.

I must stress my knowledge is on a LC100.
I cannot comment on whether this works the same on a LC200.
Although I did try the same procedure on a LC200. It appeared to be responding however I haven’t resolved the underlying problem on the LC200 yet.

These reset and test procedures can be found in the FSM Factory Service Manual.

I must also state that absolutely all of my AHC education was attained by reading, no studying the absolute library of information on the IH8MUD Forum titled
“Definitive list of AHC maintenance items”

And in my case there was one forum member called #Indrocruise who was a real legend. That person has been a real pillar of support and in-depth knowledge.
 
Hi #Anymal

Yes there is a AHC reset procedure.

As I still have been unable to get Techstream running I had to do the manual reset.

Here are the directions my friend.

I used a wire clip to simply join the pins in the OBD On Board Diagnostics module just inside the upper engine bay wing.
Small plastic box, and you simply read the pin positions from inside the lid.


AHC RESET
JUMP pins Tc and E1

On passenger side under engine hood.
Then,
Turn on ignition;
Then
Hit the brake pedal 8 times extremely fast within 3 seconds,
This should reset the system.

I must stress my knowledge is on a LC100.
I cannot comment on whether this works the same on a LC200.
Although I did try the same procedure on a LC200. It appeared to be responding however I haven’t resolved the underlying problem on the LC200 yet.

These reset and test procedures can be found in the FSM Factory Service Manual.

I must also state that absolutely all of my AHC education was attained by reading, no studying the absolute library of information on the IH8MUD Forum titled
“Definitive list of AHC maintenance items”

And in my case there was one forum member called #Indrocruise who was a real legend. That person has been a real pillar of support and in-depth knowledge.

Thats interesting.
Ive looked for it for some time and i still don't see anything referencing a procedure like that in the FSM.
Ill keep looking and if anyone knows more please do tell.

Thanks.
 
I think the 200 ahc is different from the ecu point of view.
 
I think the 200 ahc is different from the ecu point of view.
Absolutely #grinchy: all my comments are in reference to the 100 series.
I am only just starting to learn about the 200 series which as you correctly state is much more advanced and in many ways the processes are different albeit the core AHC mechanism mechanically is much the same.
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it, the original AHC system has proven to be bullet proof as regards the original design.
I think I’m correct in saying One difference is that I believe there are 2 height sensors on the rear axle on the 200 series
 
Thats interesting.
Ive looked for it for some time and i still don't see anything referencing a procedure like that in the FSM.
Ill keep looking and if anyone knows more please do tell.

Thanks.
Hi #Anymal
Here is a link for FSM
 
Hi Everyone.
A couple of questions for my learned forum members,

The LC200 I am looking at for a friend is still sitting on its bump stops. The AHC “OFF” light is flashing every second both with ignition on and after engine started.

This cruiser had 2 new front hydraulic struts installed recently.
So far we have not been able to get it off the bump stops.

Does anyone know if the “AHC Active Test” for LC100 (1998)is the same for LC200(2008) ?

I’ve totally checked the AHC pump on the LC200 (disassemble and reassemble) made sure it is pumping properly.

I have also Checked all fuses that I can find to this point.

Second question,
Is there a AHC Relay on the AHC ECU on LC200 the same as there is on the AHC ECU on the LC 100. My point being if there is a similar Relay affixed to the LC200 AHC ECU I would love to check or test that relay.
However I have a suspicion the LC200 does not have the AHC ECU RELAY like the LC100 but I’m not totally sure of this.

If the LC 200 AHC,ECU is in the same location as in the LC100 l can’t get in to see it without a load of difficulty. This is because this LC200 has been modified for its owners disability needs.
There is a hand lever that operates the brake and the throttle affixed to the lower consol so taking away the lower plastic cover from below the dash and steering wheel is quite a job.

I’m hoping the LC200 AHC ECU is not in the same location as the LC100 AHC ECU.

Now back to general discussion.

Other Work I got done today on my LC100.

I managed to get my LC100 suspension totally refreshed with new OEM AHC oil including removing the 5 bleed screws and renewing them.

As my forum friend #Indrocruise has mentioned a few times, removing the old rusted bleed screws makes a massive difference to this job. In fact with the new bleed screws it was almost a pleasure.

I also adjusted the LC100 torsion rods today.
The back was 20.5” and the front was 18.25”
I decided to do a quick adjustment today so as to educate myself how much a full turn of the torsion Rod adjustment screws lifts the Jeep.

I did 4 full turns (screwing the adjuster studs in) which in the end lifted the front by just slightly over 1”.

Therefore a full turn inwards is equal to roughly 1/4” lift.

This helps me for my next attack on this job as after I have remeasured all four corners I will now have a rough idea as to how many turns are needed.

I must say even lifting the LC 100 up by just 1” has made a difference to the ride quality.
(I recently installed new rear hydraulic struts and new springs in the back of this LC100) so this torsion adjustment has been a little overdue.

And to finish todays work I did a complete oil filter, fuel filter, and air filter change.

One thing I did different today was for the first time ever I did an engine flush.

I bought a quality engine flush from my local trusted auto car parts outlet.
The LC100 holds 11.6 litres.
So after warming up the engine oil I drain all the old oil out.
I then put in 10litres of engine flush and let the cruiser run for 30 minutes.
Then another drain of the flush oil.

This time I fitted a new oil filter and refilled with quality engine oil.

I must say I was very surprised at the obvious Carbon type smell or burnt engine oil smell that the engine flush oil produced as I was disposing of it into my waste oil disposal tank.
I was quite pleased to smell this.

I topped up my cruiser with new synthetic oil and went a short drive.
I am not exaggerating, I had to dip the dip-stick a few times as I just couldn’t see the new oil, it was still as clean or clear as it was when I put in. So the “Oil Flush” seems to have done its job.

That all said,
“A Point of Caution”

My Cruiser is a 1998 machine with 1/4m miles on the clock. It would not be truthful to say I wasn’t a little concerned about flushing the pistons and rings and potentially encouraging a wee bit of oil burn. But after 15 miles all seems to be perfect.

Obviously I won’t know until I drive the cruiser for the next 2-300 miles and see if I need to top up the engine oil.

I will report back on this in due course.

Prior to this oil change I never had to top up my engine oil which is an interesting fact as I have declared a few times, this cruiser works hard for a living with doing daily trailer work.

Please remember my two earlier questions RE THE LC200 AHC at the start of this post as I would appreciate any and all feedback

Thank you.
 
Hi Everyone.
A couple of questions for my learned forum members,

The LC200 I am looking at for a friend is still sitting on its bump stops. The AHC “OFF” light is flashing every second both with ignition on and after engine started.

This cruiser had 2 new front hydraulic struts installed recently.
So far we have not been able to get it off the bump stops.

Does anyone know if the “AHC Active Test” for LC100 (1998)is the same for LC200(2008) ?

I’ve totally checked the AHC pump on the LC200 (disassemble and reassemble) made sure it is pumping properly.

I have also Checked all fuses that I can find to this point.

Second question,
Is there a AHC Relay on the AHC ECU on LC200 the same as there is on the AHC ECU on the LC 100. My point being if there is a similar Relay affixed to the LC200 AHC ECU I would love to check or test that relay.
However I have a suspicion the LC200 does not have the AHC ECU RELAY like the LC100 but I’m not totally sure of this.

If the LC 200 AHC,ECU is in the same location as in the LC100 l can’t get in to see it without a load of difficulty. This is because this LC200 has been modified for its owners disability needs.
There is a hand lever that operates the brake and the throttle affixed to the lower consol so taking away the lower plastic cover from below the dash and steering wheel is quite a job.

I’m hoping the LC200 AHC ECU is not in the same location as the LC100 AHC ECU.

Now back to general discussion.

Other Work I got done today on my LC100.

I managed to get my LC100 suspension totally refreshed with new OEM AHC oil including removing the 5 bleed screws and renewing them.

As my forum friend #Indrocruise has mentioned a few times, removing the old rusted bleed screws makes a massive difference to this job. In fact with the new bleed screws it was almost a pleasure.

I also adjusted the LC100 torsion rods today.
The back was 20.5” and the front was 18.25”
I decided to do a quick adjustment today so as to educate myself how much a full turn of the torsion Rod adjustment screws lifts the Jeep.

I did 4 full turns (screwing the adjuster studs in) which in the end lifted the front by just slightly over 1”.

Therefore a full turn inwards is equal to roughly 1/4” lift.

This helps me for my next attack on this job as after I have remeasured all four corners I will now have a rough idea as to how many turns are needed.

I must say even lifting the LC 100 up by just 1” has made a difference to the ride quality.
(I recently installed new rear hydraulic struts and new springs in the back of this LC100) so this torsion adjustment has been a little overdue.

And to finish todays work I did a complete oil filter, fuel filter, and air filter change.

One thing I did different today was for the first time ever I did an engine flush.

I bought a quality engine flush from my local trusted auto car parts outlet.
The LC100 holds 11.6 litres.
So after warming up the engine oil I drain all the old oil out.
I then put in 10litres of engine flush and let the cruiser run for 30 minutes.
Then another drain of the flush oil.

This time I fitted a new oil filter and refilled with quality engine oil.

I must say I was very surprised at the obvious Carbon type smell or burnt engine oil smell that the engine flush oil produced as I was disposing of it into my waste oil disposal tank.
I was quite pleased to smell this.

I topped up my cruiser with new synthetic oil and went a short drive.
I am not exaggerating, I had to dip the dip-stick a few times as I just couldn’t see the new oil, it was still as clean or clear as it was when I put in. So the “Oil Flush” seems to have done its job.

That all said,
“A Point of Caution”

My Cruiser is a 1998 machine with 1/4m miles on the clock. It would not be truthful to say I wasn’t a little concerned about flushing the pistons and rings and potentially encouraging a wee bit of oil burn. But after 15 miles all seems to be perfect.

Obviously I won’t know until I drive the cruiser for the next 2-300 miles and see if I need to top up the engine oil.

I will report back on this in due course.

Prior to this oil change I never had to top up my engine oil which is an interesting fact as I have declared a few times, this cruiser works hard for a living with doing daily trailer work.

Please remember my two earlier questions RE THE LC200 AHC at the start of this post as I would appreciate any and all feedback

Thank you.

Since noone has chimed in and ive got a second:

Techstream can active test every compenent of the 200 AHC. I highly recommend getting that setup to test and look for codes in any diagnostic.
Going about it with relays, jumpers and meters is archaic and painstaking to do. I do not recommend.

The 200 AHC ECU is not under dash but under and behind the rear left seat bench (US drivers side). Its a bit of a paint to get to but not horrible.
The matting and panels all pop off is its just an awkward angle.
FSM is your one and only friend here.

As far as the 200 AHC I would start with techstream, and also check for any leaks.
Being on bump stops could be anything from no fluid, no pumping, to hydraulic pressure failure/safety cut off, to bad valves and solenoids and of course, the nightmare scenario wiring. There was a member recently who through great difficulty with the help of @lx200inAR was able to get some progress.
The system is way too complex to try and get away with repairing without diagrams and techstream.
Definitely check that thread as the process is pretty fleshed out there:

Sorry i cant be of more help than the obvious.
 
Since noone has chimed in and ive got a second:

Techstream can active test every compenent of the 200 AHC. I highly recommend getting that setup to test and look for codes in any diagnostic.
Going about it with relays, jumpers and meters is archaic and painstaking to do. I do not recommend.

The 200 AHC ECU is not under dash but under and behind the rear left seat bench (US drivers side). Its a bit of a paint to get to but not horrible.
The matting and panels all pop off is its just an awkward angle.
FSM is your one and only friend here.

As far as the 200 AHC I would start with techstream, and also check for any leaks.
Being on bump stops could be anything from no fluid, no pumping, to hydraulic pressure failure/safety cut off, to bad valves and solenoids and of course, the nightmare scenario wiring. There was a member recently who through great difficulty with the help of @lx200inAR was able to get some progress.
The system is way too complex to try and get away with repairing without diagrams and techstream.
Definitely check that thread as the process is pretty fleshed out there:

Sorry i cant be of more help than the obvious.
Thank you #Anymal
Really helpful info re ECU

Sadly being in Ireland there is a regional problem with getting Techstream set up.

You guys have the OBD1 or OBD2 system.
Over here it is a legislative issue, we have MOBD or some other system.

I had all the components sorted for Techstream only to find out it wasn’t going to work.

There are ways to go about it but I just haven’t gotten the time to research what scanner etc that I really do need.

I do apologise as That’s a pretty crude explanation my friend.

Thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts.

It’s not my LC200 only trying to help a friend.
however I have just today discovered there are a few little HOLIDAY MAKERS in the form of mice inside the Cruiser as well.
Hmmmm,

Haven’t worked out what to do with the wee pests. I know it sounds Naff but I don’t want to kill them either. But they must go.

I’m only hoping they haven’t damaged any wiring ???? Lord knows how long they have been in there.

Very serious question,
Will Techstream help me get rid of mice, if it will this might motivate me to get stuck back into my Techstream setup research again. 😂😂

Really appreciate your info on ECU and FSM my friend. And you are 100% correct about Techstream I must get that sorted immediately.
 
Thank you #Anymal
Really helpful info re ECU

Sadly being in Ireland there is a regional problem with getting Techstream set up.

You guys have the OBD1 or OBD2 system.
Over here it is a legislative issue, we have MOBD or some other system.

I had all the components sorted for Techstream only to find out it wasn’t going to work.

There are ways to go about it but I just haven’t gotten the time to research what scanner etc that I really do need.

I do apologise as That’s a pretty crude explanation my friend.

Thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts.

It’s not my LC200 only trying to help a friend.
however I have just today discovered there are a few little HOLIDAY MAKERS in the form of mice inside the Cruiser as well.
Hmmmm,

Haven’t worked out what to do with the wee pests. I know it sounds Naff but I don’t want to kill them either. But they must go.

I’m only hoping they haven’t damaged any wiring ???? Lord knows how long they have been in there.

Very serious question,
Will Techstream help me get rid of mice, if it will this might motivate me to get stuck back into my Techstream setup research again. 😂😂

Really appreciate your info on ECU and FSM my friend. And you are 100% correct about Techstream I must get that sorted immediately.

Dang i did not know that about ireland!
While im totally unfamiliar with whatever MOBD is, i do know that T offers techstream as a subscription for a low cost service option and smaller outfits to use via their official portal. Certainly there is an equivalent MOBD interface used in that region you / friend can get a hold of? Get on the techstream website and check it out. If not there must be the same accessible wiring harnessing at play throughout the vehicle? It may be yall have to start probing and meter and shorting terminals lol. But i dont know how much you like your friend either. Stealer is the other option but who an i kidding, they dont even know what AHC is.
 
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