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Discussion in '60-Series Wagons' started by yukon721, Apr 20, 2018.
LQ9 Engine Swap
A little background on this rig - It had sat non-operational in a ranchers field for roughly 10 years here in Nevada. It was finally purchased by the previous owner who wanted to use it as his fishing rig. He managed to get it up running for the most part. But was a bit overwhelmed when it came to what it would take to get it “dependable”. Example (Front end seals, leaf springs, exhaust manifold, and a strange issue that caused the truck to completly stop moving after a while). It was this strange issue that landed me with what I call a “hell of a deal”.
At the time I didnt understand the “strange” issue myself. But a truck that doesnt move far isnt exactly a great selling point. So I purchased the FJ60 for $800 and began my 15 mile drive to my house.
I began noticing the truck getting slower and slower as I got closer to my house until eventually it came to a standstill a block away. No amount of gas pedal would move it. Turned it off put in neutral to see if it would roll. Nothing. So walked to my house to grab my cell, and walked back to the truck.
At the time I lived on a golf course. As i walked back down the road I noticed my new FJ sitting on the fairway about 40 yards from the street. Long story short, the front brake calipers were seized and as the rotors got hotter and hotter the truck eventually came to a complete stop. When they cooled the truck would move. (Pay no attention to the fact that I left the truck in neutral on slight incline) Mind was too busy troubleshooting why it wasnt going anywhere. Heh.
Quickly got it off the fairway and into my garage. Day 1 was a success in learning what was wrong. Luckily it was a slow day on the course.
Since then -
Front axel seals/Knuckles redone
Minor this and that
Other than that she’s pretty untouched.
Pretty darn straight, minimal rust.
We are celebrating her 300k mark with a new motor! The 2F is getting pretty tired. For the past 5 years it has been and still is my daily driver. She goes by Old Blue.
All these cruisers come to that point don’t they... when the motor just needs to go. The maintenance on the 2F becomes a constant battle. This 60s forum is full of issues that develop in this 30 plus year old beast. Then we begin to dream of more power, better fuel economy and more fun. All of the sudden the swap desire kicks in with a rush of excitement. Now... go V8 or diesel. I chose the latter due to my love for everything diesel (4BT Cummins). But many on here are thrilled to stay gas and drop in a V8. Have you sourced a motor? Are you doing the swap or a shop?
Yeah. Motor and Transmission purchased a couple days ago. I’ll be starting on it this coming week.
Enjoy the build
I figure I am going to make a parts list in this post. It may be a bit pre-meditated, but better to be prepared. I will add/edit to this specific post as time goes on all the parts I am using or suggestions others have utilized. I'll try and include part numbers as time goes on as well. If it isn't here I may not have gotten to that stage yet (obviously), but appreciate suggestions. At the end the post will contain everything I utilized. I will also add PURCHASED in front of each item to keep everyone updated. This will also help me stay organized!
LQ9/4l60e to 1987 FJ60 Swap Parts List: *LIST WILL BE UPDATED AS BUILD PROGRESSES*
** PURCHASED ** Advanced Adapters Transfer Case Adapter Kit (Part #50-0408A)
50-0408A : 1997 & up GM 4L60E/ 4L65E 4 speed automatic transmission to the 1980-89 Land Cruiser 19 Spline transfer case,adapter kit. | Advance Adapters
** PURCHASED ** Muscle Car Oil Pan (Part # GM 19212593)
Chevrolet Performance Musclecar Oil Pan Kits 19212593
** PURCHASED ** Transfer Case Rebuild Kit - High Quality Transfer-case Rebuild Kits
** PURCHASED ** Camaro Exhaust Manifolds
(Part# GM 12611640 - Left) Exhaust Manifold - GM (12611640) | GMPartsDirect.com
(Part# GM 12611641 - Right) Exhaust Manifold - GM (12611639) | GMPartsDirect.com
** PURCHASED ** Camaro Exhaust Manifold Gasket
(Part# GM 12617944) Manifold Gasket - GM (12617944) | GMPartsDirect.com
** PURCHASED ** GM Motor Mounts (Part# GM 25828247)
Mount - GM (25828247) | GMPartsDirect.com
** PURCHASED ** Lokar Floor Mount Cable Shifter (Part# Lokar COS64L60EBB)
Lokar COS64L60EBM: Cable Operated Shifter 4L60E | JEGS
** PURCHASED** AC Delco Knock Sensors (2) (Part # 12589867)
ACDelco Knock Sensors 12589867
** PURCHASED** Fel-Pro PermaDryPlus Intake Manifold Gaskets (Part# MS98016T)
Fel-Pro PermaDryPlus Intake Manifold Gaskets MS98016T
** PURCHASED** FEL-PRO PermaDryPlus Valve Cover Gaskets (Part# VS50504R
Fel-Pro PermaDryPlus Valve Cover Gaskets VS50504R
** PURCHASED** Knock Sensor Wiring Harness (Part# 12601822)
Chevrolet Performance Knock Sensor Wiring Harnesses 12601822
Dual Pass Griffin Radiator (Part #1-58272-X)
Griffin UniversalFit Radiator,Part Number: 1-58272-X for All Chevy, Dodge Racer
Cadillac Escalade Fan Blade (Part #15017911)
Cadillac Escalade Fan Clutch (Part #20913877)
Wiring Harness & ECM - Pacific Fabrication or Howell (*Open to Suggestions*)
Cross Member - Fab
Accelerator Pedal / Sensor DBW - Whatever works with LQ9 (open to Suggestions) - Camaro, Vette, Monte Carlo, Silverado?
Power Brake Booster Vacuum Check Valve (Part #GM20861501)
In-Tank Fuel System (*Open to Suggestions*)
Dual in - Single Out Exhaust
*This list will get much longer*
If you get your hands on some TLC motor mounts, the corvette manifolds won't fit. The hookers may or you can use camaro manifolds.
Thanks for the heads up. Previous experiences always welcome. I believe the corvette manifolds have a bit of a run in with AA motors mounts too.
They do, I had to trim my mounts a bit to get the C6 manifolds to clear, but it didn’t take away from the integrity of the AA mounts.
My thread if you want to see it.....
FJ-60 LQ4/NV4500 swap
Awesome. Thanks. I've been bookmarking every build I come across.
Ok without further ado - lets get this show on the road.
First off I am swapping a LQ9 6.0 mated to a 4l60e 2WD Transmission into a 1987 FJ60. The motor came out of a 2004 AWD Cadillac Escalade with 104k miles on it.
It was originally mated to a 4L65e AWD transmission. I was lucky enough to have the option of swapping it with the 4l60e 2WD transmission instead. There are many different transmission options, however I chose to stay with what was originally mated to LQ9 motors. I believe 4L65, 4l60 or 4l80 were all options for the LQ9. If you wish to keep the 19 spline Toyota stock transfer case you will need the longer 2WD output shaft on any of these.
This leaves ya with 2 options - tear apart the AWD/4WD transmission and replace the output shaft with a longer 2WD output shaft or find a 2WD transmission from the get go. The reason you need a longer output shaft is to accommodate an adapter that runs between the transmission and stock Toyota Transfer case. (For me it is an Advanced Adapter part #50-0408A). - I realize this is common knowledge for those who have done these swaps, but it may help someone new to this whole process as I am. I’m sure someone will say the 4l65e is a stronger transmission and you may be correct. However, I decided against it, bought the the 4l60e and as any good used car salesman will say “All sales are final”
I prefer to make the process as simple as possible as this is my First Motor Swap (yep you read that right) so I opted to just go with a 2WD from the get go. One less step.
You may notice this build is brought to you outside in the comfort of a beautifully landscaped backyard. This wasn’t my first option.
Option A. Air conditioned Mega Shop
I know of 2 Shops I could utilize. The First so new it still doesn’t have electrical to it. No Bueno. The 2nd I will utilize during the finer moments but is to jammed packed with other projects to accommodate the entire duration of my build.
Option B - My garage
Access Denied I own an Outdoor Adventure company - Translation - it looks like an REI threw up and has no room. A positive or negative depending on where you stand.
Option C - My Driveway
I Live in Lake Tahoe. Flat driveways are hard to come by. Neighbors that love the idea of fellow neighbors tearing apart a FJ60 in a driveway next door even more difficult to find.
Option D - Backyard build
I figure Overcoming adversity will be a central theme throughout the build so may as well start it off in a similar fashion.
Lets get to the theatrics. As mentioned above this will be my 1st swap. I am throwing myself to the wolves. Which in my opinion is the best way to learn anything. Any help, suggestions, constructive criticism, humor or full frontal nudity is welcome. (That last bit was just to make sure you’re still reading my long winded intro - someone got excited out there ... or offended.
Day 1 - Got a late start today, but should have the front clip off tomorrow and the old motor pulled by Friday.
2F is patiently awaiting retirement. 300k is a hell of a run. She’s just getting tired. I’d trust it with another 100k if I didn’t have high elevation passes to climb each day.
Looking forwards to the project. I'm more looking forwards to seeing how you use the engine hoist on what looks like dirt.
Yeah crossed my mind as well before I began and was looking at options. Ground is flat gravel. Theory is a few 3/4 plywood sheets. We’ll see. If not I have access to a tractor that can lift it out and make short work of a futile situation.
Found this in the back of my trailer.
She’s a little dirty. Needs a shower and a bit of lipstick. Get to that in a bit. Post some better photos once she is out of the trailer and proper.
watching....taking notes....cheering you on....drinking beer
I am planning on tackling this swap as well. I will be watching!!
You're gonna love it when it's done... but it's no small feat to get there.
My build thread (in the sig) may have a few hints you find helpful. I went the manual trans route but engine installation and integration issues there are covered pretty well. I also have a spreadsheet with part numbers and costs. Guess I ought to share that, but sometimes it hurts to look at it!
Following along...just in case, you know, I get a 60 some day...and if some day after that, it needs a V8 swap. Nice score, by the way!!!
Okay, I enjoy threads with humor and appreciate your willingness to document everything so thoroughly. I'll drink some bourbon and watch from the sidelines.
Making progress. Radiator and Front Clip off. Taking off anything that will bind up a smooth transition as I pull it out. This portion is all pretty self explanitory. Nothing too complicated. Find what need to come off and take it off. Decided to label everything with blue painters tape and a sharpie. Easier now than when I’m trying to figure out what went where.
Drivelines will come off this eve. Should be close to ready for the cherry picker by around noon tomorrow. If not - Friday for sure.
This portion of the build was sponsored by Bud Light. (As can be seen below)
Disclaimer - its all that was available within walking distance..... to the fridge.