4 banger LC, thoughts? (2 Viewers)
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"Even though it looks unexciting, it gets you where you need to go"
I'm thinking a Toyota rep shouldn't be saying this on camera... Just thought this was funny but also my thoughts while standing there.
Pretty sure they already did, I just sat in
Lexus …. Mmm ya, so nice
Let's say, hypothetically, the lc250 shared the exact same rolling chassis and drivetrain as the lc300. Would that fit the idea of cheaper LC even if it has a turbo 4 instead of the T6? What if they put a 4.6 V8 in? Or the 1GR?
It seems like a turbo 4 in the lc300 would have been doable at the same price point. Would that be more acceptable/desirable?
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I have a feeling the same people would still be complaining. Because that’s basically what we got just different sheet metal.
the design of the LC300 would have not been exciting enough to cause the same hype the 250 did.
That is the reality of it. Regardless of everything else.
The 250 is eye-catching. Even if you don't like the design it will turn heads. The 300 body style would blend with the highlanders and I own a 300 and I am being honest.
I still kind of think the 250 looks abit clownish but still eye-catching.
The body style of the 250 is exactly what is IN right now design wise and they will get a lot of sales out the style alone.
The LC300 even the GR sport in stock form is pretty conservatively designed and has a more mature design, and nothing wrong with that as it does fit in better with the flagship role. They can have little more fun with the Prado design.
The goal of the Prado is to be the cheaper LC that attracts people and gets them into an LC and the LC250 is going to be doing that very well. Cheap is obviously relative here but you get the point.
That is the reality of it. Regardless of everything else.
The 250 is eye-catching. Even if you don't like the design it will turn heads. The 300 body style would blend with the highlanders and I own a 300 and I am being honest.
I still kind of think the 250 looks abit clownish but still eye-catching.
The body style of the 250 is exactly what is IN right now design wise and they will get a lot of sales out the style alone.
The LC300 even the GR sport in stock form is pretty conservatively designed and has a more mature design, and nothing wrong with that as it does fit in better with the flagship role. They can have little more fun with the Prado design.
The goal of the Prado is to be the cheaper LC that attracts people and gets them into an LC and the LC250 is going to be doing that very well. Cheap is obviously relative here but you get the point.
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I have to disagree. The plethora of unpainted plastic parts on the 250 is an eye sore. Did Toyota really have to cut out the cost of painting the full rear bumper? Where else are they cutting costs?
Have you seen the backlash from the unpainted bumper trim on the new Subaru WRX?
That stuff can be fixed with future updates, anyway I don't mind unpainted bumpers, I would rather replace them when they get scratched than having to worry about painting them and even if they get scratched they don't look as bad as scratched painted bumpers.
As for cost cutting, without a doubt the interior will be not as nice as the 300 to touch or feel but it is not meant to be.
One thing I noticed is it has a manual hood prop instead of hood struts like the previous gen.
That is disappointing for a vehicle like the Prado.
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What is actually hilarious is how you cannot accept that others have a different opinion than your own. You get bent out of shape whenever someone says something you disagree with and cannot help but react and comment!
Nah I just don’t suffer ignorant people.
Are you sure they're unpainted? I think on the 4Runner some black plastics are painted. Some aren't.
I do think it looks funny to have the full rear bumper plastic be black. Looks like an unfinished bumper put on after a crash. The black bumper on the OG trail 4R looks good to me. I'd paint the upper half body color.
I do think it looks funny to have the full rear bumper plastic be black. Looks like an unfinished bumper put on after a crash. The black bumper on the OG trail 4R looks good to me. I'd paint the upper half body color.
For the majority of the people driving the 250, most of them will be using them for mall crawling in the States, and the likelihood of the bumper getting scratched is minimal for this use case. Why would they go after a look where it looks like a $800 beater car driving down the street found an unmatched replacement bumper at the local junk yard? It’s something Toyota should be called out for.
Along with KDSS being nixed, there’s a plethora of cost cutting measures which should have been an optional package at the very least.
From the photos we have seen so far it seems all LC 250 have unpainted rear bumper but like I said I think this stuff can easily be fixed in future model years.
I personally don't see it as an issue. I really like the mid grade / base LC100/105 with the unpainted bumpers.
That is true lack of KDSS is a surprise but also keep in mind the same thing happened to the LC 300. Only the GR sport currently has E-KDSS on the 300s, KDSS was more commonly available on the 200.
I think this stuff might be fixed with future model updates. It is still early and they usually fix this stuff with customer feedback.
I have a 22 Tundra with the TTV6 non hybrid. I get around 19/20 combined mileage around town and commute. Towing a 25‘ camper up “The Ike” I got about 6 or 7, on more regular roads about 10. Driving a brick while pulling a brick you are not going to get great mileage. But the power and torque from this engine is absolutely glorious. It will tow like no one’s business.
since the LC hybrid system will be set up similar to the Tundra, which is inline with the transmission and leans towards power and torque instead of efficiency, I fully expect this LC to have PLENTY of power. Look at GM with the 2.7 and Ford with the 2.3, 2.7, and 3.5, all quite beastly little turbos and coupled with the battery, this Toyota powertrain is going to crush it.
I like this look better. Not sure if it is real or a render. But it's what I would probably do. Wouldn't be terribly expensive to get it painted.
The biggest problem is the parking sensors can’t be painted very easily.
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You know what I am really waiting to see?
What the most basic LC250 is going to look like.
So far we have seen what the most basic US market LC 250 looks like ( 1958 )
I am waiting to see the base GCC spec version or the Toyota Gibraltar version.
One thing we can be sure based off the global press release and different engine/transmission options is no more manual transmission and I also remember reading that the back door spare tire carrier is no longer available.
To give you an idea
this is currently the most basic LC150.
What the most basic LC250 is going to look like.
So far we have seen what the most basic US market LC 250 looks like ( 1958 )
I am waiting to see the base GCC spec version or the Toyota Gibraltar version.
One thing we can be sure based off the global press release and different engine/transmission options is no more manual transmission and I also remember reading that the back door spare tire carrier is no longer available.
To give you an idea
this is currently the most basic LC150.
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They're okay to paint. I think most are intended to be painted because they usually come unfinished and get painted to match in collision repair.
One thing that's cool is for the side fender flares on the 300, Toyota actually sells them painted with the specific color code of each vehicle.
So if you damage the original ones you can easily replace them and not worry about painting them.
I still hate them do they keep lifting on my 300 in the rear and its such a hassle but they give the option for people to easily put after market fenders when installing wider tires.
I imagine that in 20 years they will sell them unpainted.
So i guess its nice to enjoy the perks of getting spare parts for a vehicle that's actually in production.
I think you could also get ready painted lc80 bumpers but not sure if those are still in production @OGBeno probably knows the status.
So if you damage the original ones you can easily replace them and not worry about painting them.
I still hate them do they keep lifting on my 300 in the rear and its such a hassle but they give the option for people to easily put after market fenders when installing wider tires.
I imagine that in 20 years they will sell them unpainted.
So i guess its nice to enjoy the perks of getting spare parts for a vehicle that's actually in production.
I think you could also get ready painted lc80 bumpers but not sure if those are still in production @OGBeno probably knows the status.
If they tune them from the factory to not have paint on them, I would have to imagine the sensitivity would be out of whack if you throw a layer of paint and clear on them. This is pure conjecture, but it seems logical.
Maybe a body repair specialist can weight in.
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