4.88 Gearing, Will I Be Glad/Regret?

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I ran standard gearing up to 33in tyres without any concern, but when I switched to 35s, the standard gearing was a little lacking - my main concern was the loss of torque off the the line. Under good advice I went to 4.56:1 and this has made a noticeable improvement off the mark and even better in the bush. In my opinion, 4.56:1 with 33s would be awesome off road, but would create really short gear changes and crap fuel economy on road.

I do however cruise about 300rpm more than my mates are doing in the same rigs (less gearing changes) and while I have better acceleration and can hold the same gear for longer on steep hills, my fuel consumption is always noticeably more than theirs - on a 6000km trip, I spent and extra $500 on fuel.

Now that I am fitting a turbo, I expect to have a decent increase in torque which may allow me to go back to standard gearing. I strongly suggest you fit your supercharger and determine exactly what size tyres you want to run before making any gearing changes. It isn't a cheap mod making it a potentially expensive mistake. Additionally, the lower your gearing is the smaller the sun gears (or spider gears) are in the centre of the differential. Being smaller in size means they have less metal and thus less strength.

As another option, check out Marks Adapters for low range reduction gearing. This will allow you to keep reasonable high range gearing yet give you a real slow crawl speed off road - great for climbing really technical, low speed hills, rocks and drop-offs.
 
Additionally, the lower your gearing is the smaller the sun gears (or spider gears) are in the centre of the differential. Being smaller in size means they have less metal and thus less strength.

I'm not so sure about that statement. For your reading pleasure:

571 gear strength
 
Just putting this here for future reference since I finally found the napkins on which I wrote the info down :hillbilly:

285s w/ Stock Gears | 285s w/ 4.88 Gears | 315s w/ 4.88 Gears (guesstimate)
60 mph = 2050 RPM ..| 60 mph = 2400 RPM .| 60 mph = 2200 RPM
65 mph = 2200 RPM ..| 65 mph = 2600 RPM .| 65 mph = 2400 RPM
70 mph = 2350 RPM ..| 70 mph = 2800 RPM .| 70 mph = 2600 RPM
75 mph = 2500 RPM ..| 75 mph = 3000 RPM .| 75 mph = 2800 RPM

Rig setup: 285/75/16 Toyo MTs with about 1/2 tread and OD on. YRMV :D

Based on this and Romer's numbers running 315s w/ 4.88s, bumping up to 315s will bring the RPM down about 200 or so from my numbers listed for 4.88s w/ the 285s. Added this above as a best guesstimate.
 
Well I am going to pull the trigger on some 4.88's prior to putting in my locked axles. Right now I have no lift and 33x12.5" BFG AT's. I plan on a 2.5" OME lift, and it may happen at the same time I swap in the locker axles... if funding permits. The gears are the more challenging upgrade of the two and are a no brainer while the axles are out of the truck. I'll be sending the 3rd members to IPOR.

FWIW, my truck is a weekend warrior, occasional take it to work vehicle. My commute consists of 60MPH on rural back roads and around town never gets over 50MPH. I tow a 16' open car trailer on occasion as well, and I think the gears will help with that substantially. I have a 91 CRX I DD to work, which gets between 50-55MPG, so it averages out with the LC well... haha

This thread has been very helpful for making my decision to regear, thanks all.
 
I'm not so sure about that statement. For your reading pleasure:

571 gear strength

I understand your argument and it was an interesting read. However, comparing measurements of the crown wheel and pinon are irrelevant in most cases as their sheer size means they rarely break anyway. I'm actually talking about the spider gears the crown wheel turns that then turn the axles.

However, if difflockers are fitted, then there is rarely any issue with breakage regardless of what ratio you run -Unless, of course, you drive with absolutely no mechanical sympathy :lol:

To the OP, if improved gearing off road is your main concern, then these will be a good choice. However, on road at speed, your engine will be revving it's tits off - but it sounds like you've already accepted that fact so kkep us posted on what you think.
 
I just got back from a 500 mile road trip with my new 5.29s and I couldn't be happier. I can actually pass people on hills now and off road it's even better. That said, if I had 35s I'd go with 4.88s as I'm turning about 2600 RPM at 65 with my 37" BFGs.
 
I understand your argument and it was an interesting read. However, comparing measurements of the crown wheel and pinon are irrelevant in most cases as their sheer size means they rarely break anyway. I'm actually talking about the spider gears the crown wheel turns that then turn the axles.

However, if difflockers are fitted, then there is rarely any issue with breakage regardless of what ratio you run -Unless, of course, you drive with absolutely no mechanical sympathy :lol:

To the OP, if improved gearing off road is your main concern, then these will be a good choice. However, on road at speed, your engine will be revving it's tits off - but it sounds like you've already accepted that fact so kkep us posted on what you think.

Either there is some confusion on nomeclature or I have no idea what you are talking about.

When you regear a stock differential, the spider gears do not change. Those stay the same no matter what gears you put in. The crown/pinion gear as well as a few teeth on the ring gear is usually what breaks on diff gears.

Jack
 
Also just got back from over 600 mile trip to SNT. GPS confirmed 2500rpm = 65mph with 4.88's and 315 ATKO's.

The best part about the gears was how well they worked flying through the dunes at Oeano. Never a second try necessary, as the rig easily cruised up anything I pointed it at! Priceless, when doing a climb the first time when a 40, and 60 both had multiple attempts before me on one hill, and my 3.5 ton beast roared up without a bit of hesitation; money well spent. :D

:cheers:

Steve
 

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