34's on stock setup - it's done, now some advice...
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Markuson
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An aside to this entire thread...
...You really can't go by manufacturer labels, by the way...
My "35x12.5x17" Ridge Grapplers are EXACTLY 34" tall...OFF of the truck! So they are significantly off the 35 mark...
However...they are the full 12.5" wide...which is really the source of rubbing...rather than height.
...You really can't go by manufacturer labels, by the way...
My "35x12.5x17" Ridge Grapplers are EXACTLY 34" tall...OFF of the truck! So they are significantly off the 35 mark...
However...they are the full 12.5" wide...which is really the source of rubbing...rather than height.
Markuson
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I agree, but tI would maybe qualify the statement a bit with: "Those tires are too big for your **truck's current configuration.**"
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gaijin
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I also agree, but that's a game that could go on ad infinitum (and does, every time we modify our trucks). Nothing wrong with that, but let's not lose sight of current realities.
Just bear in mind that ANY tire larger than the stock P285/60-18 tire WILL result in:
- Worse braking
- Worse acceleration
- Worse gas mileage
How much worse depends on the tire, and how much degradation in performance one is willing to accept is a personal decision.
Further, the ONLY tire/wheel combination larger than stock that has been tested and approved by Toyota to perform without problems under ALL operating conditions - on and off road - is the LT285/70R17E 121/188R BFG AT T/A KO tires on the 17x8x50 TRD wheels.
Obviously, lots of folks run lots of tire/wheel combinations that are not approved by Toyota. What tradeoffs in performance (positive and negative) and how much potential risk for adverse equipment interactions (e.g. rubbing, lack of compression, etc.) is a personal decision - and what makes it interesting for a lot of us.
All I'm trying to say is, it makes a lot of sense to me to run a tire/wheel combination on your truck that works with your truck in its current configuration.
HTH
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maybe it's difficult to tell in the photo but the tire tucks into the wheel well fine when going forward or under a light turn.
I can take about 1.5" more compression when turning before scrubbing a fender, or easily 2" in a straight line before rubbing plastic liner at the top. Probably a bit more. The danger of the fenders would be full compression during a hard turn. The danger of the inner plastic liner is at speed.
I am leaning towards a 2"' lift in the front and 1-1.5" in the rear, btw.
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Yeah the Nitto Ridge Grappler in 285/75R17 is really 33.2"-33.3" by my tape measure, not the 33.8" listed online or the 34" marked on the sidewall.
My initial rubbing was solely due to wheel offset.
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Go drive it in a construction area, alley, dirt road with potholes and hit them at 25-40mph. It will tell you QUICK! Then find a good sized pothole and turn into drop and see what happens. We'd be at a 2 up front and 1-1.25" in the rear loaded.
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No potholes to be found in Chicago
HA! I've been there, I'll throw the BS card on that one....
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In hindsight yes I should have run with the pack. But what fun is that?
Markuson
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Gaijin is right, of course. But...if everyone adhered to that, you'd see no rock crawlers at all.
Toyota recommends what it likes to warranty. But there are tons of legitimate mods that go faaaaar beyond what Toyota's bottom-line-advisors would ever put their extremely conservative stamp of approval on.
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Yeah, I'm leaning towards the lift if that provides sufficient safety margin.
What's the expected life of the tough dog shocks?
I'm in complete agreeance with the @gaijin post. But also pushing the limit is the fun in the hobby.
It's all up to you what you're willing to put up with. If you're fine with it, I think it's fine. A little rubbing at TRUE full compression isn't really a huge deal. Of course, not ideal at all. You need to weigh your priorities to what your plans for the vehicle are. A person using their 200 for a family fun vehicle with 33s has different expectations than a off-road oriented single guy running 35s+.
It's all up to you what you're willing to put up with. If you're fine with it, I think it's fine. A little rubbing at TRUE full compression isn't really a huge deal. Of course, not ideal at all. You need to weigh your priorities to what your plans for the vehicle are. A person using their 200 for a family fun vehicle with 33s has different expectations than a off-road oriented single guy running 35s+.
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G, Here is the warranty card for the Tough Dog components. Warranty is handled through me if anything happens, not the mfg like most.
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I want it all. I'm greedy like that. Daily driver, tow vehicle, overlander and occasional trail ride. My compromise is gas mileage and ability to use a parking garage. I'll do some trails in Breck but mostly stuff like Toroweep/Tuweep in Arizona off the north rim of the Grand Canyon, or some easily accessible stuff in Canyonlands. The LC is a way to reach otherwise inaccessible places for me. As cool as it is to see Romers pics of Hells Gate I'm unlikely to run that kind of trail.
You and me both. You should see my credit card statement
Not to nay, say. But I'd say take it on a trail and find it's shortcomings and mod accordingly. A stock 200 can do very absurd trails, you might be surprised (I was). A modded 200 can hang with serious rigs.
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Breck will likely be my first trails. Not a lot out here... gotta go 4-5 hours at least and my next 3 weekends are shot. I'd been leaning towards waiting but then I consider whether I'll regret my setup for Breck. And honestly my current shocks kinda need to be swapped anyway - even though I only have 65k the city beats up suspension hard and potholes have gotten jarring. Up until talking to Jason at TT I was looking at Fox 2.0 coilover and shocks and just debating if I wanted to drop $1300 on them
yep- timbrens or Energy's would be useful.... liking the Icons !
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I'd really need someone with experience to chime in here. As best I can tell, Timbren only makes a rear bump stop, and Energy doesn't have anything but universal fitment for the LC (and even then I can't tell if it would work on the front or just the rear).
