34's on stock setup - it's done, now some advice...

[TonyP]

Here is what I do to uninstall:

-Unbolt bottom shock bolt and slide shock off bottom mount
-Unbolt the sway bar end link on passenger side
-Unbolt diff breather
-Unbolt panhard bar on passenger side

Like you the DS spring comes out very easy, usually for the passenger side I get a second had and have someone stand on the brake drum while I muscle the spring out. Also to get the sway bar end link back in I use a second jack to get it into place.

I sent a message to reevesci and and he said "The springs are labeled LH and RH and that is where they should be installed. The taller spring to the DS is NOT the correct placement."

I guess I could swap them and see what happens.

Which spring weight did you get?

 

[ckkone]

I got Front 41mm coilovers with HL (bumper & winch) springs, 0-660 light rear coil springs w/ 41mm rear shocks

 

[TonyP]

I got Front 41mm coilovers with HL (bumper & winch) springs, 0-660 light rear coil springs w/ 41mm rear shocks

Word, so your rear spring setup should be the same as @linuxgod since I have the heavy rears and largest shock.

 

[linuxgod]

I have the 45mm adjustable shocks, but yes I have the same light duty spring rate.

 

[SQRRRL]

To be fair, Tough Dog does say to put the taller spring on the DS. reevesci is probably telling you not to do that because of my experience, and because TonyP and someone else (sorry I can't recall who it was offhand) installed LH and RH as marked and were both dead on. I agree that most people should put the taller spring on the PS, like Toyota did, but I would let yours settle for 500-1000 miles and see if it stays within 1/2" or if the difference gets better or worse, then decide. If it's only 1/2", I do think trim packers are a better solution, since unless you have a lot of weight in the rear swapping will likely result in a slight lean the other way.

I've not removed the panhard bar. Maybe I'll try that next time, if I ever need to take it apart again. I unbolted the sway bar from the axle, not from the end link, FWIW. Even with the sway bar completely detached from the axle it still requires more muscle on the PS side than I feel it should. It's really a 2 man job in my experience, though I can confirm it's technically possible to do it by yourself...

I installed TD. Tall spring is on passanger side. (Right spring on right side)

 

[jbrockiii]

Newbie here. I have a LC 2018 on order and is supposed to be in beginning of November. Pretty excited about it- have had several Rovers and currently am driving a '16 4Runner Limited.

After paying, signing paperwork, etc., I always take the truck straight to the tire store and swap for more aggressive A/T tires.

My question is what tire should I get that is a very aggressive looking A/T that will fit without any problems? I'd love to add a bit of height but reading through some of the posts- I definitely do not want excessive rubbing or any problems. I may lift a bit in the future but not sure.

Thanks much.

 

[linuxgod]

@jbrockiii - if you don't want to deal with rubbing, on factory wheels you can go up to a 285/65R18 BFG KO2 easily. Check the tire/wheel database but you likely can go all the way to 275/70R18 as well (note the slightly narrower tire width).

 

[SQRRRL]

I have 285/65/18 on stock wheels. Will not rube on stock suspension. I put Tough Dog suspension on last month. 40mm lift in front. 20mm lift in the rear. No UCA needed. I don’t plan on off reading the gnar like some of you guys. It is a good option. Good luck

 

[ckkone]

Swapped the rear springs around on my tough dog lift, so RH is on passenger side and LH is on driver side and it’s level all the way around:

Front 31.5”
Rear 32.75”

Thank god....

 

[linuxgod]

@ckkone, you should let Tough Dog know. The more US people that tell them their install info is incorrect, the more likely they are to fix it.

 

[TRAIL TAILOR]

@ckkone, you should let Tough Dog know. The more US people that tell them their install info is incorrect, the more likely they are to fix it.

I got to speak with one of the spring makers/designers and asked about the LHD vs RHD 200 models and swapping the springs this week. His reply was that the 200, unlike all previous coil equipped cruisers are very balanced in comparison. So swapping the springs away from their designed and marked placement will produce an unfavorable pitched stance no matter if its a LHD or RHD 200.

So LH is DS and RH is PS as the springs are marked for the US or LHD models.

J

 

[Chocolate]

Helpful information in here for fitting 34s. Appreciate it.

 

[fireball]

I had 34x10.5x17 ko2s put on yesterday. Drove it to my buddy's house to start installing the lift, so my only data point is no rubbing during an hour of mixed city and highway use.

 

[terdrocket]

Swapped the rear springs around on my tough dog lift, so RH is on passenger side and LH is on driver side and it’s level all the way around:

Front 31.5”
Rear 32.75”

Thank god....

Where are you measuring from? I just installed the TJM XGS suspension and want to know how much higher I am sitting. I forgot to measure beforehand

 

[ckkone]

Top of the rim to bottom of wheel arch:

 

[terdrocket]

Top of the rim to bottom of wheel arch:

I am on 285/70/17 duratracs and measure 32.5" from bottom wheel lip through center to top of fender lip on on driver front and right and passenger front. Passenger rear I am 32" . Taller spring on passenger side . HD springs on front. Very happy so far.

 

[Stgeo]

In hindsight yes I should have run with the pack. But what fun is that?

I also agree, but that's a game that could go on ad infinitum (and does, every time we modify our trucks). Nothing wrong with that, but let's not lose sight of current realities.

Just bear in mind that ANY tire larger than the stock P285/60-18 tire WILL result in:

- Worse braking
- Worse acceleration
- Worse gas mileage

How much worse depends on the tire, and how much degradation in performance one is willing to accept is a personal decision.

Further, the ONLY tire/wheel combination larger than stock that has been tested and approved by Toyota to perform without problems under ALL operating conditions - on and off road - is the LT285/70R17E 121/188R BFG AT T/A KO tires on the 17x8x50 TRD wheels.

Obviously, lots of folks run lots of tire/wheel combinations that are not approved by Toyota. What tradeoffs in performance (positive and negative) and how much potential risk for adverse equipment interactions (e.g. rubbing, lack of compression, etc.) is a personal decision - and what makes it interesting for a lot of us.

All I'm trying to say is, it makes a lot of sense to me to run a tire/wheel combination on your truck that works with your truck in its current configuration.

HTH

Question on the above: I am in the process of choosing wheel tire combo for my 2010 LX570:
- 285/70/17
- Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S
- Method rims with +35mm offset. Only ones I could find with 5x150 bolt pattern and so high positive offset.
Will this combo rub?

 

[CharlieS]

I run Evo Corse DakarZero 17"rims with +40 and 34" BFG KO AT2 tires (they run small) and they initially rubbed on the kdss arm at full lock to passenger. Enough that it polished it to bare metal in a small patch. I posted here, people said it was fine, and I have subsequently ignored it for 15k miles.