30K mile service - major tune up comprised of? (1 Viewer)

[loeky]

i'm curious if anyone can list out what should be changed, checked and replaced according to the dealership for a 30K mile major servicing. this is not what you 'think', but what a dealership would really do if i were to take it to them. i didn't see this in my manual and am hoping for a listing of things that would be included for this service.

any dealership monkies out there willing to give me some insight? would appreciate it.

thanks!
m.

 

[lowtideride]

valve adj, timing,idle,any hoses, belts, cap,rotor,plus,wires,filtes,etc.etc.

 

[Zack1978]

Well if you go to the dealer for the 30,000 mile service, bend over and get ready for them to "stick it in you!"!!

But actually most dealerships don't do all that much for the 30,000 mile service! If you read what they do, they CHECK!! a bunch of things that you can check yourself in a few min. As far as what they change, it's usually oil, oil filter, air filter, change coolant (not even usually a flush, just drain and refill!), change spark plugs ( they usually list CHECK cap and rotor!) and if it's an auto they might do a trans fluid change. I think that's about what they usually do.

Sorry about the rant, but I get so ANGRY when the dealerships steal money from people who know little about cars. They tell them a line like " If you don't do the 30,000 mile service, your car will not last very long, and you are asking for trouble! And you know the summer is here so you better do it if you are planning any road trips!". The local Toyota dealer just stole $1100 from a friend of my mom's with an 03 Camry with 28,000 miles! There was not a damm thing wrong with the car, except that it needed wiper blades and an oil change! They did a cabin air filter for $170.00!! All this was needed in the 30,000 mile service!!

Zack

 

[loeky]

understood on the 'checking' thing - but not exactly the only information i'm after. let me explain - when i first bought my truck i took it in for a 'major' tune up and have since left a review on Yelp.com that was honest and effectively negative on the shop. the mechanic contacted me and tried to make nice on his lack of follow through. while the fluids were topped and the chasis lubed, i'm trying to get a specific list of items that are on the Toyota certified 30K service. he is disputing that the cap and rotor should be changed, and maybe it shouldn't, but i'd like to know for sure.

it's unfortunate that most things are checked, but that's what i'm trying to gather is the full list of items, checked and/or replaced. the things [like what LowTide mentions] that i would replace aren't necessarily what are on the official Toyota dealer list, which is what this mechanic is supposedly going by.

thing was, the guy did charge me for a valve adjustment that was above and beyond the actual 'major' tune up. that specifically would be a point i'm curious about.

again, any insight appreciated. considering about 4 cruiser owners have been saved by going to this guy from reading my review, i feel it's worth it to leave the truth up. it would be nice to know exactly what i'm talking about in terms of what should and isn't included in this type of servicing.

 

[Zack1978]

On my 87 FJ-60 when I do a "major" tune up (using OEM parts!) I do plugs, air filter, oil and filter, cap, rotor, PCV valve, fuel filter, plug wires, rad flush, check all belts and hoses, might do oil changes on the trans (gear oil) t-case, add the front and rear diff. I don't do the valve adj myself, I leave that to my mechanic. I can't think of anything else at the moment!

HTH,
Zack

 

[srplus]

not unusual

unless the mechanic is just crooked, i am sure there was something that caused him to check and adjust the valves. after all the vehicle does have 172K on it.

if there was a hairline crack in the old cap or the rotor crapped out because it was worn, how could he possibly stand by his tune up? and what would you be posting about his failure to diagnose and replace those marginal low cost items. on some of my old cruisers when i first got into them the engine / head rebuilds were specifically related to shops taking shortcuts and not going that extra mile and adjusting those valves. i wish i could have saved the thousands to rebuild by paying for those little extras.

not to say you don't have a gripe. in florida before any work can be done by a mechanic there has to be a written approval of the actual scope of the work.

 

[lowtideride]

Just about everything I said was low cost and easy to do or replace. I can think of about a hand full of tools to do all of that, a flat/phillip head,10,12, 14mm, plug socket, and a gauge for the vlave adj...

Hell i am taking apart an fj80 right now and all i keep doing is switching from 10,12,14mm sockets on the impact gun.

It is so simply to work on these trucks its a shame to pay someone else to do it.

Also, its prob time for new vac hoses and a carb re-build according to the miles you state. Also both a very easy and require no special tools..


I think my major tune up included at 170k a new toyo water pump, fan, clutch, alt, smog idler, vac lines along with the stuff already mentioned...just as PM before they go out. With any luck I wont have to do that for another 20 years...

good luck brotha,
-Al

 

[Zack1978]

Just about everything I said was low cost and easy to do or replace. I can think of about a hand full of tools to do all of that, a flat/phillip head,10,12, 14mm, plug socket, and a gauge for the vlave adj...

Hell i am taking apart an fj80 right now and all i keep doing is switching from 10,12,14mm sockets on the impact gun.

It is so simply to work on these trucks its a shame to pay someone else to do it.

Also, its prob time for new vac hoses and a carb re-build according to the miles you state. Also both a very easy and require no special tools..


I think my major tune up included at 170k a new toyo water pump, fan, clutch, alt, smog idler, vac lines along with the stuff already mentioned...just as PM before they go out. With any luck I wont have to do that for another 20 years...

good luck brotha,
-Al

I wish people like you lived closer to NJ to teach someone like myself how to do more work on my 60!

Zack

 

[lowtideride]

Come visit, my door is always open.
-Al

 

[2mbb]

I have a toyota publication, 36788A, Maintenance Procedures 1985 Models Land Cruiser. This is what it lists for normal service at the 30K mile interval:

Adjust valves
inspect drive belts
replace engine oil and filter
inspect exhaust pipes and mountings
Replace air filter
inspect fuel lines and connections
replace spark plugs
inspect brake linings and drums
inspect brake pads and discs
inspect brake line pipes and hoses
inspect steering linkage
inspect ball joints and covers
inspect manual transmission, transfer, differential and steering gear box oil
repack front wheel bearing grease
lubricate steering knuckle and chassis grease points
lubricate propeller shaft grease points
Inspect bolts and nuts on chassis and body

If an inspection reveals the part is worn or out of spec, then it should be repaired or replaced.

 

[loeky]

2mbb - thanks man. exactly what i was after. thanks for typing it all in.

regarding the other replies, thanks. as far as doing things myself - i have replaced all of the vacuum tubing, installed vacuum and mechanical oil gauges, replaced spark plugs, adjusted the carb, installed the radio & tuffy and other odds and ends on the truck. the rebuilt carb is sitting beside me and will go on when the thermostat is replaced at the shop in the next couple weeks. read on for the why...

i live in the city and don't have a garage to drop oil and other fluids which is why i initially took the truck in to the shop in the first place. dropping fluids in the street that's on an incline is not exactly the best place and i don't really have access to anywhere else.

so - yes. everyone should work on their truck because they are easy, when and where you can that is. you flatlanders have it so easy see....

 

[srplus]

had to check / it killed the cat

i searched yelp.com and came up with the following review:

"i've got a 1987 FJ60 Landcruiser and prefer to have only Toyota parts used for maintenance. unfortunately, the local toyota dealership is completely overpriced and ridiculous to deal with on any level. that said, i took my truck to The Garage and they happily took it in. i asked repeatedly as to their experience with older Landcruisers and was told "no problem".

2 days of delays go by and they are still working on the truck. it was plainly obvious they had no idea how to work on one and were jerking me around. when i took it in for a full tune up [truck was new to me] they used Autolite [crap] spark plugs and couldn't set my timing correctly - it ran real rich.

personally, i'm still on the look out for a good mechanic that is capable in the city. your mileage may vary." "

i am not an arbitrator. nor, am i offering criticism of loeky for his post on yelp. if he specified prior to the service "only OEM parts" then he should have gotten only OEM. however, this shop would have been forced to buy his parts from his local Toyota dealer. then his prices might be just as high as the dealership. sounds like a 'failure to communicate' either between loeky and the owner of the shop or the owner of the shop and his mechanics.

loek: you might have a real beef! as far as taking two days for the repair, unless you were charged for 16 labor hours he prolly had to wait on parts. the other 4 ppl that reviewed this shop all gave it 5 out of 5 stars, so prolly the best course of action would be to kiss up a little with the owner and see what he is willing to do to get a few stars added to his review. you might be pleasantly surprised. personally, I don’t enjoy paying to train mechanics and to avoid confusion when i deal with them i always bring a written copy of what i want done and how. and if anything major is required i drop off the SM with the cruizer if the shop does not have one. on my other cruisers when i did this, even if the shop said they had the manual, i always found greasy fingerprints in mine.

 

[lowtideride]

I have a tree in my yard you can work under

 

[patride71]

I have a tree in my yard you can work under

hey douche, just stopped by to see what was going on round these parts.

never did get my TLCA membership back up, so missed your article in TT.

did i get editorial credits?

hope all is well dude.

later,
patty

 

[lowtideride]

hey douche, just stopped by to see what was going on round these parts.

never did get my TLCA membership back up, so missed your article in TT.

did i get editorial credits?

hope all is well dude.

later,
patty

Holy hell your still alive, where did you and swanky run off to? Hey I plan on making round up next year and skipping GSMTR, you better be there loser...

 

[patride71]

Holy hell your still alive, where did you and swanky run off to? Hey I plan on making round up next year and skipping GSMTR, you better be there loser...

PM'd ya...

 

[soggy60]

ummm, how did ya manage an FJ60 with 30K miles ?
I past ten times that years ago . . .

 

[loeky]

to be clear, the truck i have is at 174K. the mechanic called the service that he did a 'major' service and based it against what is performed for a 30K mile service.

point is that it just really doesn't make sense as he was to change all fluids and do a full tune up. i wasn't happy with what was performed and the time it took to do so. this all happened a year ago and i'm really only curious for my own information.